Offical Combine Thread
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Wow. Miller may be top five stuff, but Wilson is also a great size, with greater speed.
Very interesting...
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Illinois ILB Martez Wilson ran the fastest forty time among linebackers at the Scouting Combine, registering an official 4.49.
Unofficially, he was clocked as fast as 4.44. "He's just blowing it up athletically," said NFL Network's Mike Mayock. Wilson was a bit of a surprise as an underclassman entrant into the draft, but it appears he's plenty ready. After a monster fourth-year junior season, the 6-foot-4, 250-pound inside linebacker is proving to be a physical freak. He's put his name into the mix for late first-round consideration.
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IMHO, the "measurables" at the Combine are over rated. Sure, they can help (or devastate) someone like Quinn, who missed a year or the small school guys. Too often, a player who had fantastic, or so-so "on field" production over a full season (or more) overlooked & too much importance placed on the Combine results, which many of these guys prepped specifically for.
To me, the most important parts of the Combine are the interviews, testing, & how the players react to their failures, shortcomings, & other players. In other words, we should already know what they can do during games with pads on, but what goes on "inside" is important too.
Just my thoughts.
Mike
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My feeling is that the Bench Press statistic is about as revealing as the "Airplane pull" statistic. If I am not mistaken none of the bench press leaders at the combines over the years have amounted to squat.
Agree alot of them dont pan out to nothing, except maybe Brodrick Bunkley who benched 44, But Paea was a first selection All American not just pac 10
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IMHO, the "measurables" at the Combine are over rated. Sure, they can help (or devastate) someone like Quinn, who missed a year or the small school guys. Too often, a player who had fantastic, or so-so "on field" production over a full season (or more) overlooked & too much importance placed on the Combine results, which many of these guys prepped specifically for.
To me, the most important parts of the Combine are the interviews, testing, & how the players react to their failures, shortcomings, & other players. In other words, we should already know what they can do during games with pads on, but what goes on "inside" is important too.
Just my thoughts.
Mike
IMHO, the "measurables" at the Combine are over rated. Sure, they can help (or devastate) someone like Quinn, who missed a year or the small school guys. Too often, a player who had fantastic, or so-so "on field" production over a full season (or more) overlooked & too much importance placed on the Combine results, which many of these guys prepped specifically for.
To me, the most important parts of the Combine are the interviews, testing, & how the players react to their failures, shortcomings, & other players. In other words, we should already know what they can do during games with pads on, but what goes on "inside" is important too.
Just my thoughts.
Mike
Right- teams figured out combine results are just one part of the puzzle. There have been numerous "workout warrior" monumental busts- and guys that didn't test well turning into perennial all-pros. Ray Lewis is exhibit 1A- his 40 time was supposedly "too slow" & remember the concern about Joe Hayden's speed last year? Turns out Joe is plenty fast enough. We're looking for football players, not track stars. Renaldo Nehemiah supposedly ran a sub 4.2, but what good is that if you can't run a route, or catch the ball?
If the guy looks good on film, that's way more important- and again- teams are starting to look at the 10 yard split for defensive & offensive linemen- quickness out of the blocks- those fat guys aren't running 40 yards on every play.
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Big, BIG difference between combine and in-game speed. Too much stock is vaulted on the combine when it comes to measurements.
With that said, I think Patrick Peterson may have ran his way out of our #6 spot
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Yeah Von Miller and Patrick Peterson are both gonna be gone by the time we pick at #6, they put up impressive numbers
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Yeah Von Miller and Patrick Peterson are both gonna be gone by the time we pick at #6, they put up impressive numbers
Yeah Von Miller and Patrick Peterson are both gonna be gone by the time we pick at #6, they put up impressive numbers
Now, there are 2 examples of guys with stellar game production...couple that with outstanding Combine #s & their stock will jump, as will their draft position.
It's going to get real interesting.
Mike
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Yeah Von Miller and Patrick Peterson are both gonna be gone by the time we pick at #6, they put up impressive numbers
Now, there are 2 examples of guys with stellar game production...couple that with outstanding Combine #s & their stock will jump, as will their draft position.
It's going to get real interesting.
Mike
Now, there are 2 examples of guys with stellar game production...couple that with outstanding Combine #s & their stock will jump, as will their draft position.
It's going to get real interesting.
Mike
The top 10 has some great talent. At 6 we are sitting pretty good for getting a d lineman.
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Yeah Von Miller and Patrick Peterson are both gonna be gone by the time we pick at #6, they put up impressive numbers
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@sj_browns said:
i've been seeing reports on espn (yesterday and today) that carson palmer is at it again. he says he has money in the bank and would play for the love of the game, just not in cinci. his status could possibly affect who will be available at #6 and help the browns out.
Means.... Unless Mike Brown is a total idiot somebody's going to take a quarterback before the Browns draft.
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@sj_browns said:
i've been seeing reports on espn (yesterday and today) that carson palmer is at it again. he says he has money in the bank and would play for the love of the game, just not in cinci. his status could possibly affect who will be available at #6 and help the browns out.
Means.... Unless Mike Brown is a total idiot somebody's going to take a quarterback before the Browns draft.
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my bad. i forgot this was just a combine thread and not a draft thread, so i deleted my post and started a new thread.
No dont worry about that man, seeing as that it would affect the player the bengals would select at #4 i think it belongs in this thread, if Palmer is on his way out...Im praying they dont take Green and decide to go with a QB instead. They still may take there best player on the board which still may be AJ Green, im just really hoping someway he falls to us
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my bad. i forgot this was just a combine thread and not a draft thread, so i deleted my post and started a new thread.
No dont worry about that man, seeing as that it would affect the player the bengals would select at #4 i think it belongs in this thread, if Palmer is on his way out...Im praying they dont take Green and decide to go with a QB instead. They still may take there best player on the board which still may be AJ Green, im just really hoping someway he falls to us
No dont worry about that man, seeing as that it would affect the player the bengals would select at #4 i think it belongs in this thread, if Palmer is on his way out...Im praying they dont take Green and decide to go with a QB instead. They still may take there best player on the board which still may be AJ Green, im just really hoping someway he falls to us
Seriously, sounds awful, but i'm kind of over AJ Green in hopes that we get Patrick Peterson. The guy is as sure a thing as i've ever seen a cornerback (thank god those stupid safety switch rumors were put to rest). I've now put him ahead of AJ Green on my list.
My new WR crush (who I actually think is better than AJ Green or Julio) next year is Alshon Jeffrey
I'm hoping right now we either get Peterson. But in all honesty, AJ Green is a great consolation prize.
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I agree i think Peterson would be the best player outta this draft, but i find it hard to believe he will make it to us at #6, i love Alshon Jeffery as well so if we dont Green this year id love to have ethier him or Blackmon i think they are both gonna be great recievers
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They say this year's draft is deep, but it's not top heavy like it will be next year or the draft two years from now. Those drafts wont just have starters, they'll have hall-of-fame-potential WRs.
And in 3 years, the draft has a 6-7 wide receiver who runs 100m in 10.1 seconds (
) and a vertical of 44 inches. I'm salivating at the idea of the Browns getting him.....But hopefully in 3 years we'll be so good we won't have a shot at drafting him in the top 5.
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my bad. i forgot this was just a combine thread and not a draft thread, so i deleted my post and started a new thread.
No dont worry about that man, seeing as that it would affect the player the bengals would select at #4 i think it belongs in this thread, if Palmer is on his way out...Im praying they dont take Green and decide to go with a QB instead. They still may take there best player on the board which still may be AJ Green, im just really hoping someway he falls to us
No dont worry about that man, seeing as that it would affect the player the bengals would select at #4 i think it belongs in this thread, if Palmer is on his way out...Im praying they dont take Green and decide to go with a QB instead. They still may take there best player on the board which still may be AJ Green, im just really hoping someway he falls to us
If Carson bolts, the Bengals have his brother and Dan LeFevour left at qb. Not good. FA? Mike Brown won't pay for a top shelf replacement, and I think Donovan McNabb would rather retire than play in Cinti too.
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