The Cleveland Browns And This Weeks Pro Day Workouts
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lol....jones isn't gonna make it past the middle of the first round. despite his constant dropsies, he's still the second best receiver out there and wont go past 19. so trading up that far is completely outta the picture, not to mention trading up to grab such a high risk player isnt smart at all. but they did think trading up for mr. glass hardesty was a good idea, so who knows what fatass will force on heckert.
lets see.....i believe we about 8 WR's including guys on the PS. we have 4 DL, 5 if u include roth. talk about how a #1 receiver is necessary to score points and do all those flashy things u trendy kids love, but fact is the D jauron wants to run needs pressure from the DL in order for it to work.
im sure warming up to JJ watt, even if AJ is there. who is gonna have more impact on this team in year 1.....a WR that gets 5-10 touches per game or an every down lineman that can stop the run and get at the QB?
everyone wants the flashy pick.....
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No, "everyone" does not want the "flashy" pick. More likely, "everyone" just needs a dynamic IMPACT player for their team, in the first round.
I was watching the show "Path to the Draft" on the NFL channel.... and J.J. Watt is a 292 lb force, who is -really- quick and agile. He can really move, and take off and run.
If Green and Peterson are gone, I look for the Browns to trade down, -if they can-, and make hay with later round players who would still be great picks for the Browns.
Someone on that show was saying you "always" take a DE over a DL, with the same talent level. I didn't get that. There are other variables involved, like character,
team play, and who you already have on your roster....
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No, "everyone" does not want the "flashy" pick. More likely, "everyone" just needs a dynamic IMPACT player for their team, in the first round.
I was watching the show "Path to the Draft" on the NFL channel.... and J.J. Watt is a 292 lb force, who is -really- quick and agile. He can really move, and take off and run.
If Green and Peterson are gone, I look for the Browns to trade down, -if they can-, and make hay with later round players who would still be great picks for the Browns.
Someone on that show was saying you "always" take a DE over a DL, with the same talent level. I didn't get that. There are other variables involved, like character,
team play, and who you already have on your roster....
No, "everyone" does not want the "flashy" pick. More likely, "everyone" just needs a dynamic IMPACT player for their team, in the first round.
thanks, cal. my feelings exactly. it's not about a flashy pick for me either. this team has alot of holes to fill and it's hard to say which one is the most important to fill.
for me personally, i'm leaning toward aj at #6 if he's there because i'm sick of the browns not having a consistent passing attack that makes it harder for opposing defenses to handle them. having a guy like aj could potentially help out alot and like i said before, d linemen are supposed to be plentiful this year and available in the 2nd rd.
there's a method to my preference for aj in the 1st rd (if he's there). that whole "flashy pick" accusation is nothing more than people automatically assuming that's what all browns fans/nfl fans want. i don't fit into that category. my pick is well thought out.
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Agreed i look at Depth and thats which way i would decide to go,Dline is very deep in this draft and you will get a first round grade Dlineman in the second round..Thats why i think the pick should be Green if hes there, theres a bigger dropoff as far as talent from the WR position opposed to the Defense line position,and Green would defentily have just a great effect as DE would..Just because you only catch the ball 5 times a game dosent mean opposing Defenses dont have to play different type of schemes to stop a great WR, it compelety opens up the rest of the offense.
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Agreed i look at Depth and thats which way i would decide to go,Dline is very deep in this draft and you will get a first round grade Dlineman in the second round..Thats why i think the pick should be Green if hes there, theres a bigger dropoff as far as talent from the WR position opposed to the Defense line position,and Green would defentily have just a great effect as DE would..Just because you only catch the ball 5 times a game dosent mean opposing Defenses dont have to play different type of schemes to stop a great WR, it compelety opens up the rest of the offense.
Thats why i think the pick should be Green if hes there, theres a bigger dropoff as far as talent from the WR position opposed to the Defense line position,and Green would defentily have just a great effect as DE would..Just because you only catch the ball 5 times a game dosent mean opposing Defenses dont have to play different type of schemes to stop a great WR, it compelety opens up the rest of the offense.
good post, nw!
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from what i heard on espn, cam looked good. hopefully one of the teams that pick before the browns thinks so to.
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I think what a lot of people forget (because of about 5 WR is recent history) is that normal WR take about 3 years to get their feet on the ground. If you look at the history of WR they tend to have so so years first and second year. Third year is when they will break out or bust. Me personally I am going to wait until the end of this year before I start writing off Robo and MoMass.
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I think what a lot of people forget (because of about 5 WR is recent history) is that normal WR take about 3 years to get their feet on the ground. If you look at the history of WR they tend to have so so years first and second year. Third year is when they will break out or bust. Me personally I am going to wait until the end of this year before I start writing off Robo and MoMass.
I think what a lot of people forget (because of about 5 WR is recent history) is that normal WR take about 3 years to get their feet on the ground. If you look at the history of WR they tend to have so so years first and second year. Third year is when they will break out or bust. Me personally I am going to wait until the end of this year before I start writing off Robo and MoMass.
Well said. WRs seldom come "out of the gate" as NFL superstars, or even NFL capable. As you stated, we should have a much clearer picture of their performance this year, although I still feel that Robo was set back his 1st year.
We'll see what happens.
Mike
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from what i heard on espn, cam looked good. hopefully one of the teams that pick before the browns thinks so to.
from what i heard on espn, cam looked good. hopefully one of the teams that pick before the browns thinks so to.
I think it's becoming glaringly obvious a team ahead of us will be stupid to draft a QB (maybe 2).
I'm just hoping Peterson and/or Green is still there.
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Thanks SJ
Yeah it usually does take WRs an average of 3 years to really come into there own, but not the elite..Calvin Johnson,Fitzgerald,Moss,Dez Byrant,Desean Jackson,Andre Johnson,etc...These guys are great right out the gate and thats the kind of player you would get in Green,and then you add in if Robo and Momass do actually become more of a threat into year three..That makes are Receving Core very nice...Dont also sleep on Evan Moore i think he has tons of potential and is on the verge of being a great TE, Someone who can step out say in the slot and cause mismatches on CBs or Safteys...We all remeber his play agasnt Revis one hell of a catch..Shurmur has said he will be used more often this season
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I don't think MoMass needs to be discussed as a bust. Robo, possibly, but he started to show something last year.
Mo is a pretty solid receiver. No, he isn't going to be the best in the league, but he is solid and can do the things we need him to do.
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