Let's Hear It For Engineers And Science
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Unfortunately, the Tsunami claimed all the lives. Japan has had great engineering for buildings for decades. However, if this quake had been directly under Tokyo, it would have killed many. It was almost 200 miles away and still caused some damage. 8.9 is to powerful for any engineering most likely. And all the engineering in the world can't stop a Tsunami.
Unfortunately, the Tsunami claimed all the lives. Japan has had great engineering for buildings for decades. However, if this quake had been directly under Tokyo, it would have killed many. It was almost 200 miles away and still caused some damage. 8.9 is to powerful for any engineering most likely. And all the engineering in the world can't stop a Tsunami.
Obviously 8.9 is powerful and some people are going to die. But you can't deny that the engineers' abilities saved lives, and Tokyo would have been well xxxxed if its buildings were shoddily designed. There isn't much anyone can do about a tsunami, it's simply too much force and water to reasonably deal with. The best science can offer at this time is the warning system.
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Dont speak to soon, we will see if they can solve the problem of 2 nuclear power plants where both lost the cooling systems due to the earthquake.
Fatman and Littleboy revisit Japan.
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Ugh. A meltdown is a very scary thought.
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Lest we forget they've merely mitigated some of the damage from a creation of science and engineering.
WSS
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Lest we forget they've merely mitigated some of the damage from a creation of science and engineering.
Those creations are a means of dealing with population, which if Japan was left unchecked, you'd get a densely overpopulated island with no basic amenities AND no artificial refuge from the tsunami. High ground is the only real safety measure, and if you're not in a mountainous area over there, you're getting your ass into a tall building.
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I love Japan. Was stationed there for years. My wife is Japanese, and my kids 1/2 Japanese. My in-laws live in Shizuoka prefecture which is south-west of Tokyo and they didn't get the Tsunami. Hopefully this all works out with the nuclear reactor.
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I feel for you, I have no idea how my family in the Philippines is doing.
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Jesus xxxxin christ.
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Hrm. Link's not workingPossibly NSFW. You know that people are getting killed in this video...
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Japan - Exploded Nuclear Plant Uses MOX Fuel - Not Uranium! What is that? Just 2 MILLION Times WORSE than Uranium or Chernobyl's Meltdown!
UPDATE 3/13/11 11:18PM est - Video of EXPLOSION OF REACTOR 3 (Mox Fuel) that Just now happened on 3/14/11 at 11am Japanese time (Mox Fuel) * watch this video and the one at the bottom of this article of Reactor #1 exploding on Saturday - to me this explosion is much bigger and more powerful than the other and there was a large flash at the beginning!
Question added 3/14/11 - They say they are pumping seawater into all the reactors to cool them. The Japanese government nor MSM have mentioned where the seawater is being dumped afterward. Is the toxic radiated water being circulated back into the ocean after going through all the reactors?
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Sunday, March 13, 2011Japan - Exploded Nuclear Plant Uses MOX Fuel - Not Uranium! What is that? Just 2 MILLION Times WORSE than Uranium or Chernobyl's Meltdown!
UPDATE 3/13/11 11:18PM est - Video of EXPLOSION OF REACTOR 3 (Mox Fuel) that Just now happened on 3/14/11 at 11am Japanese time (Mox Fuel) * watch this video and the one at the bottom of this article of Reactor #1 exploding on Saturday - to me this explosion is much bigger and more powerful than the other and there was a large flash at the beginning!
Question added 3/14/11 - They say they are pumping seawater into all the reactors to cool them. The Japanese government nor MSM have mentioned where the seawater is being dumped afterward. Is the toxic radiated water being circulated back into the ocean after going through all the reactors?
UPDATE - 3/14/11 12:12 AM - I was just listening to FOX news and they were talking to a Nuclear Expert as soon as he began saying Reactor 3 which had just exploded has different fuel and about to explain it, she totally cut him off and said there was no more time to talk to him. Wow - they are trying to keep this information about MOX fuel from getting out!
CONFIRMED - REACTOR 3 (Mox Fuel Reactor) Exploded 10:50pm est- On LIVE right now - they are saying it is all still contained - possibly mass radiation from it though - (update) now they have changed that story and saying no radiation! Saying reactor is not damaged now and saying containment vessel still intact - same explosion as what happened with #1 - just the outer building!
http://www.ustream.tv/embed/7497266
UPDATE -3/13/11 10:38PM EST - CNN JUST NOW SAID THERE WAS A BLAST AT REACTOR NUMBER 3 (the mox fuel reactor) - They are not sure of the whole situation and all they know is there has been a blast from it.
UPDATE 3/13/11 10PM est- NUMBER 3 REACTOR - rods may have been damaged (this is the one with the MOX fuel).
The official also said that Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501), the operator of the plant, has been able to release pressure in reactor No. 3 but that he's concerned that its fuel rods may be damaged.
Another UPDATE - Just out - From IAEA blog about Reactor 3 (MOX fuel reactor) -
Unit 3 does not have off-site power supply nor backup diesel generators providing power to the plant. As the high pressure injection system and other attempts to cool the reactor core have failed, injection of water and boron into the reactor vessel has commenced. Water levels inside the reactor vessel increased steadily for a certain amount of time but readings indicating the water level inside the pressure vessel are no longer showing an increase. The reason behind this is unknown at this point in time. To relieve pressure, venting of the containment started on 13 March at 9:20AM local Japan time. Planning is underway to reduce the concentration of hydrogen inside the containment building. The containment building is intact at Unit 3.
Edit 3/14/11 9am est - I have a question.. they are saying there has not been radiation leaking and the containment vessels are intact with both reactors. Then WHY Those in a helicopter were contaminated found when they landed on the Ronald Reagan? It is said the Ronald Reagan went through a radiation cloud also. Why isn't MSM asking that question? How can the reactors be intact yet people are getting contaminated from radiation? Can't they ask the most basic questions? Don't they know people will on their own know someone is lying somewhere. Lets see..... the Japanese about the reactors not melted down and no radiation leaking or the U.S. military and the soldiers who are now showing radiation contamination? hhhmmm.... let me think about that.
another addition.. 9:26am est - I am flabbergasted CNN anchor says reactor exploded but NO Radiation Leaked! How can they say that with a straight face? When the U.S. military has been contaminated out in the ocean from radiation? How can they easily lie like that, when it doesn't make sense? They are saying steam released had small amounts of radiation but they are not saying one word about MOX fuel in that steam.
Added - 3/14/11 12:20pm est - Link for Live Real Time Geiger Counter in Tokyo
Added 3/14/11 12:36am est - Kyodo news says partial melt down for Reactor 1 and 3 and now
Reactor 2 rods were fully exposed - there are fears of it exploding now. This one may be a full meltdown.
Reactor 2 is not a MOX fuel reactor.
Original post commences about MOX fuel
I am so Astounded that the Japanese have as many Nuclear Power Plants that they have on the most seismic place in the world! How they did not have 100 different back up plans is beyond me! Why didn't they have their generators 50 feet in the air in case of tsunamis? I have thought of tons of questions regarding it all!
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Japan's Nuclear power plants are built much better then the Nuclear power plants in the United States. I would love to see your stats on that Mr. T. Do you think that any nuclear power plant in the states would survive an 8.9 earthquake and then a Tsunami? The strongest one rated in the States I believe is rated for a 7.0. An 8.9 earthquake is 100 times stronger then a 7.0. They are doing the best they can to stop this. I think maybe you are a racist. Don't like Japanese, so post idiotic Youtube posts. And blog entries with psycho rantings. You're an asshole.
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Yeah, T, it's more or less under control. It's gonna be a few days, maybe weeks until the water's cool enough for a cleanup, but the radiation that was released was minimal.
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Yeah, T, it's more or less under control. It's gonna be a few days, maybe weeks until the water's cool enough for a cleanup, but the radiation that was released was minimal.
Yeah, T, it's more or less under control. It's gonna be a few days, maybe weeks until the water's cool enough for a cleanup, but the radiation that was released was minimal.
Well I hope so, otherwise the west coast is going to get radiated.
The core of a nuclear reactor consists of metal rods containing pellets of uranium fuel bundled into fuel assemblies, all contained within a steel shell.
The fuel in the Japanese reactors may now not melt through the steel container, but the individual rods were probably damaged.
"I'd be amazed if one or two hadn't split," said Grimes.
A more serious meltdown, where the rods congealed into a mess which was hard to remove, would increase the cost of clean-up. That happened at Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania in 1979, where the site had to be sealed.
"It becomes much more complicated, you need much more radiological protection, you'll probably need to develop new bespoke techniques and that's where the expense piles up," said Grimston.
The three flooded Japanese reactors have been written off because of the effects of seawater, experts said.
The fate of ponds of water which contained canisters of spent radioactive fuel is uncertain, but damage to the ponds would also increase clean-up costs without adding seriously to radiation levels, said Grimston.
Engineers have vented hydrogen gas produced from overheated fuel rods, contributing to two explosions and some increase in local radiation. That venting will continue for several days as reactors cool, experts said.
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Japan's Nuclear power plants are built much better then the Nuclear power plants in the United States. I would love to see your stats on that Mr. T. Do you think that any nuclear power plant in the states would survive an 8.9 earthquake and then a Tsunami? The strongest one rated in the States I believe is rated for a 7.0. An 8.9 earthquake is 100 times stronger then a 7.0. They are doing the best they can to stop this. I think maybe you are a racist. Don't like Japanese, so post idiotic Youtube posts. And blog entries with psycho rantings. You're an asshole.
Japan's Nuclear power plants are built much better then the Nuclear power plants in the United States. I would love to see your stats on that Mr. T. Do you think that any nuclear power plant in the states would survive an 8.9 earthquake and then a Tsunami? The strongest one rated in the States I believe is rated for a 7.0. An 8.9 earthquake is 100 times stronger then a 7.0. They are doing the best they can to stop this. I think maybe you are a racist. Don't like Japanese, so post idiotic Youtube posts. And blog entries with psycho rantings. You're an asshole.
What the hell does racism have to do with it. This is not about race at all. This is about a nuclear meltdown.
While some of you want to pound your chest over what man has achieved you need to remember a little history.
"Not even God could sink the Titanic," was the boast of those who put their confidence in a ship built by men. Today we also have the deadly tendency to have excessive pride in our own resources.
And where is the Titanic today?
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Another stupid ass reply.
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The guy gets so hard for disasters and "threats" and end of the world talk. It's almost like he's a paranoid or something.
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T. The map or chart or press release or whatever the hell you may have looked at was phony.
http://www.australian-radiation-services.com.au/
DISCLAIMER: Australian Radiation Services is aware of information about radioactive contamination being spread from the Japanese nuclear reactor incident released under the ARS logo and name. We wish to be clear that this information has not originated from ARS and as such distance ourselves from any such misinformation.
Just relax.
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VT, glad to hear that. I hope all eyes are watching this.
Atleast someone doesn't go spewing venom all over the boards and has some rational thoughts. I threw that out there to see if anyone knew if there was anything to it. If you go to drudgereport.com The heading in red "Meltdown Alert".
And the link is from the BBC, IMO gives us a broader base of information on the International News.
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