Libya
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Hey I'm no fan of Obama butI think that by carping about each and every move sounds a bit like crying wolf.
I agree with much of what Toop says but Drum too, despite his snarky "Leave Brittany alone" tone.
While "dithering" may make the US look weak and indecisive I think it's important to know who these rebels are. Even the state dept admits Al Queda is probably a part of the uprising, and honestly it sounds like one of their goals.
Can we trust them to play ball if we help them out? Did Iran?
If we thought we could trust them we shoulda gone all out.
If not........
And to go to congress so every member can grandstand? C'mon, that'd go on for months.
Khaddafi is a dirtball. Too bad somebody didn't just pick him off.
And no it's humanitarian. It really wasn't in Iraq. Lets stop pretending we don't care about our own interests.
However we're in it now.
We need to hope he falls and falls soon and that the new assholes appreciate who bailed them out. I doubt that.
And I think we all know what kind of infighting and bickering goes on among white hose staff.
Lets hope the winner guessed right.
WSS
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LOL, it is bad symbolism - at the very least - Heck. Why is his mother in law traveling with them?
As David Gurgen said last night, Obama has to return home and explain things to the American public.
Do you agree with that?
I said days ago that he's got to do a better job explaining a number of things, and this is the biggest one right now. But the idea that going on his planned trip to Brazil was a "vacation" is just nonsense. You can't bemoan the politics of it all while you repeat the political attacks, John. You might as well pick up the one about how he's spending all of his time on his NCAA bracket, too.
And no, I don't think it's "bad symbolism" to announce the operation from the White House, and then leave to go on your scheduled trade mission to Brazil.
You can't bemoan the politics of it all while you repeat the political attacks, John. You might as well pick up the one about how he's spending all of his time on his NCAA bracket, too. And no, I don't think it's "bad symbolism" to announce the operation from the White House, and then leave to go on your scheduled trade mission to Brazil.
Come on, Heck. This is an -admittadly weak - attempt at political satire. Not the quality of your team's guys like Mahar, Stewart et al. Give it up, already.
PS For obvious reasons, I'd expect Obama to be well versed in anything basketball.
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Dennis Kuchinich says Obamao should be impeached. I finally agree with him on something.
Now that Dems are bitterly criticizing Obamao, it's hard to say that he isn't a disastrous choice for pres.
And Shep was "frightened" by the evil specter of Bush.
He surely is stone-cold terrified now, since the bark a good while ago, completely fell off the
ugly Obamao tree.
That tree is rightly plagued by woodpeckers on all sides.
It's too bad Shep didn't show up to bitterly bemoan the violent, "frightening" rhetoric of the left. That would have been consistent for once.
Obamao is now directly contradicting himself at every turn. Not good. How's that "Obamao will twang his magic twanger and bring us and the world all together" working for ya, liberals?
Liberal translation: " ...........
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You can't bemoan the politics of it all while you repeat the political attacks, John. You might as well pick up the one about how he's spending all of his time on his NCAA bracket, too. And no, I don't think it's "bad symbolism" to announce the operation from the White House, and then leave to go on your scheduled trade mission to Brazil.
Come on, Heck. This is an -admittadly weak - attempt at political satire. Not the quality of your team's guys like Mahar, Stewart et al. Give it up, already.
PS For obvious reasons, I'd expect Obama to be well versed in anything basketball.
Come on, Heck. This is an -admittadly weak - attempt at political satire. Not the quality of your team's guys like Mahar, Stewart et al. Give it up, already.
PS For obvious reasons, I'd expect Obama to be well versed in anything basketball.
I can't tell what you're saying. What is a weak attempt at political satire again?
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Come on, Heck. This is an -admittadly weak - attempt at political satire. Not the quality of your team's guys like Mahar, Stewart et al. Give it up, already.
PS For obvious reasons, I'd expect Obama to be well versed in anything basketball.
I can't tell what you're saying. What is a weak attempt at political satire again?
I can't tell what you're saying. What is a weak attempt at political satire again?
Obama and Mother-In-Law getting away from the DC winters while our scud missles fly and our military personnel are in harms way.
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That's not an example of satire.
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Wow
Sorry about all the typos.
WSS
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Just curious guys.
Besides knee jerk attack or defense do any of you guys have a take on the potential mess we're facing?
It's beginning to look like a choice between an angry and psychotic Khadaffi and AQ or their allies.
What's the upside here?
Anybody?
WSS
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No upside. It probably would have been best to arrange for the remaining rebels' safe passage to some other country, to prevent their slaughter and to keep this guy in power.
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No upside. It probably would have been best to arrange for the remaining rebels' safe passage to some other country, to prevent their slaughter and to keep this guy in power. PE
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That's an excellent suggestion, PE. Especially since Obamao dilly dallied around, and it took way too long to protect the rebellion members.
You don't know who will come into power within the ranks of the several factions of rebels. I think Obamao kept voting "PRESENT" until he was
given some serious criticism by the military and intel officials.
Most other admins, you could figure they tried your idea first, PE... but it wouldn't work.
THIS admin, like Carter's... don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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Newt is going to give Mitt Romney a run for his money:
Here's Newt last week: Exercise a no-fly zone this evening. … It’s also an ideological problem. The United States doesn’t need anybody’s permission. We don’t need to have NATO, who frankly, won’t bring much to the fight. We don’t need to have the United Nations. All we have to say is that we think that slaughtering your own citizens is unacceptable and that we’re intervening."
Here's Newt today: "I think that two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is a lot. I think that the problems we have in Pakistan, Egypt — go around the region. We could get engaged by this standard in all sorts of places. I would not have intervened. I think there were a lot of other ways to affect Qaddafi. I think there are a lot of other allies in the region we could have worked with. I would not have used American and European forces."
Newt is going to give Mitt Romney a run for his money:
Here's Newt last week: Exercise a no-fly zone this evening. … It’s also an ideological problem. The United States doesn’t need anybody’s permission. We don’t need to have NATO, who frankly, won’t bring much to the fight. We don’t need to have the United Nations. All we have to say is that we think that slaughtering your own citizens is unacceptable and that we’re intervening."
Here's Newt today: "I think that two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is a lot. I think that the problems we have in Pakistan, Egypt — go around the region. We could get engaged by this standard in all sorts of places. I would not have intervened. I think there were a lot of other ways to affect Qaddafi. I think there are a lot of other allies in the region we could have worked with. I would not have used American and European forces."
So Heck....
Ya like that better than the Biden call for impeachment?
(Let me guess ....)
WSS
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Heck's reply about Biden's call for impeachment...
" ........................ Halliburton... mumble...........Romney.... mumble.......Newt............."cough"
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Heck's reply about Biden's call for impeachment...
" ........................ Halliburton... mumble...........Romney.... mumble.......Newt............."cough"
Heck's reply about Biden's call for impeachment...
" ........................ Halliburton... mumble...........Romney.... mumble.......Newt............."cough"
I would get involved but over the years me having a clear vision and understanding vision is not part of todays America or better having America a vision to go backwards...........I will pass.......
good luck and use your brains........... make sure your thinking is outside the box.......right now America's box is about an 1/2 inch wide............which makes self destruction an absolute
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Heck's reply about Biden's call for impeachment...
" ........................ Halliburton... mumble...........Romney.... mumble.......Newt............."cough"
I would get involved but over the years me having a clear vision and understanding vision is not part of todays America or better having America a vision to go backwards...........I will pass.......
good luck and use your brains........... make sure your thinking is outside the box.......right now America's box is about an 1/2 inch wide............which makes self destruction an absolute
I would get involved but over the years me having a clear vision and understanding vision is not part of todays America or better having America a vision to go backwards...........I will pass.......
good luck and use your brains........... make sure your thinking is outside the box.......right now America's box is about an 1/2 inch wide............which makes self destruction an absolute
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You could get involved just a bit, Rich. You could get Shep to explain or admit he was totally wrong about ObaMao... that would be great. You could also use your
keen, profound insight, and explain why Valeria and Joe sleazeball eggsucking Plames... aren't saying anything about obamao's putting us into Libya.
They were SO against Iraq, you know. but NOW, with a DEMOCRATIC (socialist union thug sold out) president, whatever he does is fine.
Funny how that works. I don't get it. I'm sure that you could get Shep to explain it to me..... @@
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