Mock Draft From Real Rams Fans.com

[Kosar_For_President]

Bullshit. Fairley is over rated and a bust. Plus, he has character issues. We need players with experience, not one season under their belt. The Walrus rarely takes gambles (Koren Robinson is the exception).

Can anyone show me The Walrus' draft history and the players he selected. And how LONG they played in college? Yep.

Take Jones or Peterson.

[Nw220]

Agreed i like Jones or Peterson, and then Paea in the 2nd or Marvin Austin and if we decide to Go DE in the 2nd then Drake Nevis in the 3rd

[Boston Ram]

@kosar_for_president said:

Bullshit. Fairley is over rated and a bust. Plus, he has character issues. We need players with experience, not one season under their belt. The Walrus rarely takes gambles (Koren Robinson is the exception).

Can anyone show me The Walrus' draft history and the players he selected. And how LONG they played in college? Yep.

Take Jones or Peterson.

Peterson was gone and Jones was a option but I thought there was too much value with Fairley and fit a need and positioned next to Rubin could be pretty impressive. I would have to disagree on the overated part, he dominated in the SEC. When you watch him you see a distruptive force who dominates one on one and stuffs double teams. He makes players around him better. Im not sure what you are refering to when you say character issues. Are you talking about being a dirty player? Quite frankly that has been overblown somewhat, there are a couple of cheap shots but by in large there are more football plays there. Would you like to have James Harrison on your team? He is considered dirty but would love to see him playing for the Rams. Outside of that he has not character concerns, he has never been arrested, suspended, what exactly are the character concerns your worried about?

[Boston Ram]

@nw220 said:

Agreed i like Jones or Peterson, and then Paea in the 2nd or Marvin Austin and if we decide to Go DE in the 2nd then Drake Nevis in the 3rd

Paea, would of been my selection in round 2 but was taken by Denver, Smith was my second option in round 2. Again Peterson was gone in round 1.

[Boston Ram]

@kosar_for_president said:

Bullshit. Fairley is over rated and a bust. Plus, he has character issues. We need players with experience, not one season under their belt. The Walrus rarely takes gambles (Koren Robinson is the exception).

Can anyone show me The Walrus' draft history and the players he selected. And how LONG they played in college? Yep.

Take Jones or Peterson.

Another note about Fairley being a dirty player, Tom Hackert publically supported Fairley

Nick Fairley: The Auburn tackle (6-4, 298) won the Lombardi Trophy as the nation's best lineman. He led the SEC with 24 tackles for a loss and had 11.5 sacks. MVP of the 2010 BCS Title Game, he had five tackles, 3.5 for a loss, 1.5 sacks, and a forced fumble.

Mayock has him ranked behind Dareus, and several mocks, including Pro Football Weekly's, have the Browns taking him. But Fairley has a reputation as a dirty player, with late-hit penalties and some spearing.

Heckert disputed the reputation.

"No, not at all," he said. "He's a tough player. I guess there's a fine line. It's not after the whistle stuff. I think it's more toughness than being a dirty player."

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/02/cleveland_browns_gm_tom_hecker_5.html

[Boston Ram]

@kosar_for_president said:

The Walrus rarely takes gambles (Koren Robinson is the exception).

Can anyone show me The Walrus' draft history and the players he selected. And how LONG they played in college? Yep.

Take Jones or Peterson.

Hard to tell since its a small window, was fired as GM after 2002. I dont think this gives you much of a sample. Not sure this supports your arguement, King was a risk along with Robinson and Stevens had character concerns coming out. All first round picks.

http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/browns/2009/12/holmgrens-draft-history/

1999

First round: 22 (22) Lamar King, DE Saginaw Valley State

Round three: 16 (77 overall) Brock Huard, QB Washington

Round Three: 21 (82) Karsten Bailey, WR Auburn

Round four: 20 (115) Antonio Cochran, DE Georgia

Round five: 7 (140) Floyd Wedderburn, T Penn State

Round Five: 19 (152) Charlie Rogers, WR Georgia Tech

Round Six: 1 (170) Steve Johnson, DB Tennessee

2000

First Round: 19 (19) Shaun Alexander, RB Alabama

First Round: 22 (22) Chris McIntosh, T Wisconsin

Second Round: 21 (52) Ike Charlton, DB Virginia Tech

Third Round: 18 (80) Darrell Jackson, WR Florida

Fourth round: 22 (116) Marcus Bell, LB Arizona

Fourth round: 25 (119) Isiah Kacyvenski, LB Harvard

Sixth Round: 9 (175) James Williams, WR Marshall

Sixth round: 19 (185) Tim Watson, DT Rowan

Sixth round: 24 (190) John Hilliard, DT Mississippi State

2001

First Round: 9. (from San Francisco), Koren Robinson – WR North Carolina State

First round: 17. (from Green Bay) – Steve Hutchinson, G Michigan

Second Round: 40. Ken Lucas – DB Ole Miss

Third round: 82. (from NO through GB and San Fran) Heath Evans – FB Auburn

Fourth Round: 104. Orlando Huff – LB Fresno State

Fourth Round: 127. (compensatory pick) Curtis Fuller – S Texas Christian

Fourth round: 128. (compensatory pick) Floyd Womack – OT Mississippi State

Fifth Round: 140. Alex Bannister – WR Eastern Kentucky

Sixth round: 172. Josh Booty – QB Louisiana State

Seventh Round: 210. Harold Blackmon – CB Northwestern

Seventh Round: 222. (from StL via GB and San Fran) Dennis Norman – OT Princeton

Seventh Round: 237. (compensatory) Kris Kocurek – DT Texas Tech

2002

First Round: 28 (from Green Bay). Jerramy Stevens – TE, Washington

Second Round: 22. (54) Maurice Morris – RB, Oregon

Second Round: 28. (60) (From Green Bay) Anton Palepoi – DE, Nevada Las Vegas

Third Round: 20. (85) Kris Richard – CB, USC

Fourth Round: 22 (120) Terreal Bierria – S, Goergia

Fifth Round: 11 (146) (From Indy) Rocky Bernard – DE, Texas

Fifth Round: 34 (169) (Compensatory) Ryan Hannam – TE, Northern Iowa

Fifth Round: 36 (171) (Compensatory) Matt Hill – OT, Boise State

Sixth Round: 22 (194) Craig Jarrett – P, Michigan State

Seventh Round: 21 (232) Jeff Kelly – QB, Southern Miss

[wvdawg]

I want nothing to do with Nick Fairley.. one year wonder with character concerns and questionable work ethic.. also known for taking plays off.. I'm worried as soon as he gets paid he'll bust

[Nw220]

@boston-ram said:

Hard to tell since its a small window, was fired as GM after 2002. I dont think this gives you much of a sample. Not sure this supports your arguement, King was a risk along with Robinson and Stevens had character concerns coming out. All first round picks.

http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/browns/2009/12/holmgrens-draft-history/

1999

First round: 22 (22) Lamar King, DE Saginaw Valley State

Round three: 16 (77 overall) Brock Huard, QB Washington

Round Three: 21 (82) Karsten Bailey, WR Auburn

Round four: 20 (115) Antonio Cochran, DE Georgia

Round five: 7 (140) Floyd Wedderburn, T Penn State

Round Five: 19 (152) Charlie Rogers, WR Georgia Tech

Round Six: 1 (170) Steve Johnson, DB Tennessee

2000

First Round: 19 (19) Shaun Alexander, RB Alabama

First Round: 22 (22) Chris McIntosh, T Wisconsin

Second Round: 21 (52) Ike Charlton, DB Virginia Tech

Third Round: 18 (80) Darrell Jackson, WR Florida

Fourth round: 22 (116) Marcus Bell, LB Arizona

Fourth round: 25 (119) Isiah Kacyvenski, LB Harvard

Sixth Round: 9 (175) James Williams, WR Marshall

Sixth round: 19 (185) Tim Watson, DT Rowan

Sixth round: 24 (190) John Hilliard, DT Mississippi State

2001

First Round: 9. (from San Francisco), Koren Robinson – WR North Carolina State

First round: 17. (from Green Bay) – Steve Hutchinson, G Michigan

Second Round: 40. Ken Lucas – DB Ole Miss

Third round: 82. (from NO through GB and San Fran) Heath Evans – FB Auburn

Fourth Round: 104. Orlando Huff – LB Fresno State

Fourth Round: 127. (compensatory pick) Curtis Fuller – S Texas Christian

Fourth round: 128. (compensatory pick) Floyd Womack – OT Mississippi State

Fifth Round: 140. Alex Bannister – WR Eastern Kentucky

Sixth round: 172. Josh Booty – QB Louisiana State

Seventh Round: 210. Harold Blackmon – CB Northwestern

Seventh Round: 222. (from StL via GB and San Fran) Dennis Norman – OT Princeton

Seventh Round: 237. (compensatory) Kris Kocurek – DT Texas Tech

2002

First Round: 28 (from Green Bay). Jerramy Stevens – TE, Washington

Second Round: 22. (54) Maurice Morris – RB, Oregon

Second Round: 28. (60) (From Green Bay) Anton Palepoi – DE, Nevada Las Vegas

Third Round: 20. (85) Kris Richard – CB, USC

Fourth Round: 22 (120) Terreal Bierria – S, Goergia

Fifth Round: 11 (146) (From Indy) Rocky Bernard – DE, Texas

Fifth Round: 34 (169) (Compensatory) Ryan Hannam – TE, Northern Iowa

Fifth Round: 36 (171) (Compensatory) Matt Hill – OT, Boise State

Sixth Round: 22 (194) Craig Jarrett – P, Michigan State

Seventh Round: 21 (232) Jeff Kelly – QB, Southern Miss

I guess its a good thing we got Heckert calling the shots and not the Walrus with that resume only thing i see is Shaun Alexander and Steve Hutchison

[Nw220]

I dont think Fairley will be the selection,i think this is the way the Browns board will look after Clemson and UNCs pro day...Bowers has fallen almost mid round 1 and Quinn had a tremendous pro day..

1a.Peterson

1b.Green

1c.Miller

1d.Dareus

I think all four of these guys have about an equal grade with the exception of Peterson slightly higher,one shall fall given two QBs go top 5 which one will determine who we select

2.Quinn

After running a 4.59 at his pro day and looking great in drills he soldified himself in the top 10,Also only 20 years old still has tons of upside

2b.Fairley

Great Tape this year not so great the year before,destroyed SEC competetion people wonder why only for one year,people question his work ethic and his motovation..Also DT is deeper in the second round as oppossed to DE..Paea,Austin,Nevis

3.Bowers

After failing to make it through all his drills at his Pro day and becoming Fatigued his stock has drop signigicatly,Favored his hurt knee alot while runing his drills..and ran a 4.89

[Boston Ram]

@nw220 said:

I guess its a good thing we got Heckert calling the shots and not the Walrus with that resume only thing i see is Shaun Alexander and Steve Hutchison

Agree on Heckert, I will give him Ken Lucas too, that was a good pick and Heath Evans atleast has had a long career.

[Boston Ram]

@nw220 said:

I dont think Fairley will be the selection,i think this is the way the Browns board will look after Clemson and UNCs pro day...Bowers has fallen almost mid round 1 and Quinn had a tremendous pro day..

1a.Peterson

1b.Green

1c.Miller

1d.Dareus

I think all four of these guys have about an equal grade with the exception of Peterson slightly higher,one shall fall given two QBs go top 5 which one will determine who we select

2.Quinn

After running a 4.59 at his pro day and looking great in drills he soldified himself in the top 10,Also only 20 years old still has tons of upside

2b.Fairley

Great Tape this year not so great the year before,destroyed SEC competetion people wonder why only for one year,people question his work ethic and his motovation..Also DT is deeper in the second round as oppossed to DE..Paea,Austin,Nevis

3.Bowers

After failing to make it through all his drills at his Pro day and becoming Fatigued his stock has drop signigicatly,Favored his hurt knee alot while runing his drills..and ran a 4.89

Agree with you on all accounts. Your 1A,B,C,D, Im guessing will be gone. Here is why, I think Carolina goes Darius, Peterson or Miller. They just drafted Clausen. They wanted Luck. Are they really going to roll the dice with Newton? He has trouble reading defenses, runs even when receivers are open. His game is very immature for the NFL and could not step in and start. Give Clausen the ball see what you got and if he sucks you get Luck next year. Denver probably grabs the best player in the draft in Peterson, Buffalo is happy with Fitzgerald and fits Gaily offense fine. Von Miller, is my guess. Cinny is the wild card here. Do they go Green or draft one of the fraud QB's? Arizona has already been public about trying to bring Bulger or some veteran in. Whisenhurst is in the final year of a contract and is not going to hand the keys to a rook. I dont have a good feel on what Arizona is going to do. Maybe Fairley, Quinn even Green could be a posability.

The only chance to get one of your 1's is for a QB to go early. My bold prediction lol is maybe 1 QB goes top ten. Here is why.

Newton: Raw, does not read defenses well. Takes off from pocket even with open receivers and character concerns.

Gabbert: Ran same offense as Chase Daniels yet was out performed by Chase Daniels.

Locker: Never had a completion percentage above 60%, much like Newton, leaves the pocket with open receievers downfield, has improved on this but still needs to read defense better. Better baseball player than football player IMO.

I hope Im wrong on the QB's as the more that get picked before the Rams the better our chance to get Julio Jones, so Im hoping Im wrong but I think you are going to see some QB's fall hard this year.

[Nw220]

I Agree that im not sold on any of the QBs in this years class aside from maybe Dalton but thats not to say one of the top 5 teams isnt,everything ive read has signs that QBs are going to go higher this year because of the Lockout and uncertainty about Free Agency which means its harder to acquire a QB..Ive heard rumors of Minnesota and Tennessee both trying to trade up to grab one