Who Do You Like With The Second Pick?
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safe money would put us at DE or DT at that spot to hopefully find someone to shore up the position a little bit. With the depth of that position in this years draft, I can hope Heckert and company knows the right one to take there. Heyward wouldn't be a reach at all at that position but I almost guarantee he'll be gone late 1st.
Other possibilities I see are WR if we don't land Green/Jones in the first, but I'm not sure if any of the WR's there are worth the pick. To be honest though, I haven't vested nearly as much into this draft as others.
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My first pick would be Reed out of Arizona, but there is really only a 25% chance he falls to us (would also like to look at the DE that played across from his too, but I don't know what round he is supposed to go in). People are saying this guy is supposed to be a strict OLB in a 3-4, but his is 265 and played his entire career in Arizona coming out of a stance so it should be to hard for him to play DE in a 4-3.
My next picks would be Sheard DE from Pitt, or Heyward/Paea. Sheard did a good job at Pitt taking over for Romeus (would would be a good pick in the 4th or 5th) and could start right away. Heckert said that if he drafted Heyward that he would play under DT (over the guards outside shoulder) because of his size. Paea would probably play the same spot since Rubin is still over DT (over the Centers shoulder) but he would end up being more of a run stopper.
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I'm liking DE Justin Houston from Georgia right now. He has ideal size at 6'3" 270 with a nice burst off the edge. Had 10 sacks in the toughest division, SEC, second only to Nick Fairley.
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I dont think Justin Houston will be there in the Early 2nd but theres a chance he could be, also im not quite sold on him i dont know hes had great production in the SEC but alot of people ive talked to say he may be a one year wonder...We'll see
Id like Paea in the 2nd the most,i just dont see any WRs that i really want in the 2nd,we've already built this team around 2s and 3s and anybody we grab in the 2nd is gonna be a 2 at best in the NFL...
Rahim Moore would be my ultimate sleeper pick because he would allow Ward to Move to SS were he'd be better and Moore could play the Coverage on the FS position...Anyone who grabs him in the 2nd i think will get one of the great steals in this draft
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I dont think Justin Houston will be there in the Early 2nd but theres a chance he could be, also im not quite sold on him i dont know hes had great production in the SEC but alot of people ive talked to say he may be a one year wonder...We'll see
Id like Paea in the 2nd the most,i just dont see any WRs that i really want in the 2nd,we've already built this team around 2s and 3s and anybody we grab in the 2nd is gonna be a 2 at best in the NFL...
Rahim Moore would be my ultimate sleeper pick because he would allow Ward to Move to SS were he'd be better and Moore could play the Coverage on the FS position...Anyone who grabs him in the 2nd i think will get one of the great steals in this draft
I dont think Justin Houston will be there in the Early 2nd but theres a chance he could be, also im not quite sold on him i dont know hes had great production in the SEC but alot of people ive talked to say he may be a one year wonder...We'll see
Id like Paea in the 2nd the most,i just dont see any WRs that i really want in the 2nd,we've already built this team around 2s and 3s and anybody we grab in the 2nd is gonna be a 2 at best in the NFL...
Rahim Moore would be my ultimate sleeper pick because he would allow Ward to Move to SS were he'd be better and Moore could play the Coverage on the FS position...Anyone who grabs him in the 2nd i think will get one of the great steals in this draft
I like Houston. He actually played DE in Georgia's old 4-3 before they got a new coach who switched their defense to 3-4.
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Please no to Hankerson, believe me i live in South Florida and have watched alot of UM games and he has terrible hands...I mean he makes alot of big plays and has the size but he has drops that will make people really remember Braylon Edwards alot...I have nothing agasnt him its just everytime i got to watch them play he dropped a perfectly thrown ball that could have gone for a 1st down..
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Any of Paea/Heyward/Houston would be great at 37.
Dareus won't be around at #6, and I don't have confidence in Quinn/Fairley/Miller. I hope Green is around, but Peterson isn't a bad second option.
So we have to go DT with the second pick.
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Jerrel Jernigan.. perfect fit for our WCO
He is and im hoping he slides to round 3 and we could grab him there, right now hes projected to go late 2nd to Atlanta, if they get Torrey Smith in the first like ive seen alot, id love to have him in the 3rd i just thinks hes a reach at a high 2nd when theres so many d-lineman rated round 1 talent that will still be around for us to grab
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Jerrel Jernigan.. perfect fit for our WCO
He is and im hoping he slides to round 3 and we could grab him there, right now hes projected to go late 2nd to Atlanta, if they get Torrey Smith in the first like ive seen alot, id love to have him in the 3rd i just thinks hes a reach at a high 2nd when theres so many d-lineman rated round 1 talent that will still be around for us to grab
He is and im hoping he slides to round 3 and we could grab him there, right now hes projected to go late 2nd to Atlanta, if they get Torrey Smith in the first like ive seen alot, id love to have him in the 3rd i just thinks hes a reach at a high 2nd when theres so many d-lineman rated round 1 talent that will still be around for us to grab
He's not slipping to the 3rd.. he's as good as gone if he slides to 59 to atl.. their extremely high on him.. he wud be a slight reach at 37 but hey tj ward was a reach too and u see how that turned out
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He is and im hoping he slides to round 3 and we could grab him there, right now hes projected to go late 2nd to Atlanta, if they get Torrey Smith in the first like ive seen alot, id love to have him in the 3rd i just thinks hes a reach at a high 2nd when theres so many d-lineman rated round 1 talent that will still be around for us to grab
He's not slipping to the 3rd.. he's as good as gone if he slides to 59 to atl.. their extremely high on him.. he wud be a slight reach at 37 but hey tj ward was a reach too and u see how that turned out
He's not slipping to the 3rd.. he's as good as gone if he slides to 59 to atl.. their extremely high on him.. he wud be a slight reach at 37 but hey tj ward was a reach too and u see how that turned out
Agreed but i like the D line prospects like Paea,Reed,Clayborn or Heyward over Jernigan but outta all the recievers not named Green i like him the best for are offense...Yeah but if ATL gets Torrey Smith in the 1st they wont take him in the 2nd, which he could be a steal in the 3rd..
I like in the 3rd Marcus Gilbert RT outta Florida in the 3rd and in the Fourth i want Casey Matthews,unless Jernigan is there id have him as well...
But if there really sold on Jernigan in the 2nd why not trade down say middle of round 2 and then grab him he will still be there and we could add more picks,just a thought
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Maybe the Bengals, Raiders or squeelers. Marvin Austin is hot/cold, inconsistent. Lacks instincts, can be slow to locate...doesn't play with good leverage, handled by double teams,
and POOR CHARACTER.
Nope. I like Wilkerson and Paea a ton better
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Maybe the Bengals, Raiders or squeelers. Marvin Austin is hot/cold, inconsistent. Lacks instincts, can be slow to locate...doesn't play with good leverage, handled by double teams,
and POOR CHARACTER.
Nope. I like Wilkerson and Paea a ton better
Maybe the Bengals, Raiders or squeelers. Marvin Austin is hot/cold, inconsistent. Lacks instincts, can be slow to locate...doesn't play with good leverage, handled by double teams,
and POOR CHARACTER.
Nope. I like Wilkerson and Paea a ton better
No way Wilkerson falls as he has been climbing. Paea and Austin are about the same. I would love Wilkerson and I am indifferent on the other two, but would rather have Paea as he played last year, but Austin has had a good offseason.
Where's Romeo Crennel when you need a coin flip?
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Maybe the Bengals, Raiders or squeelers. Marvin Austin is hot/cold, inconsistent. Lacks instincts, can be slow to locate...doesn't play with good leverage, handled by double teams,
and POOR CHARACTER.
Nope. I like Wilkerson and Paea a ton better
Maybe the Bengals, Raiders or squeelers. Marvin Austin is hot/cold, inconsistent. Lacks instincts, can be slow to locate...doesn't play with good leverage, handled by double teams,
and POOR CHARACTER.
Nope. I like Wilkerson and Paea a ton better
I don't know about the "poor character". I saw the ESPN piece on him. The ONLY thing he did was to take "extra benefits" from an agent....and get caught. I suggest that there isn't a person who will be drafted this year that didn't take some kind of extra benefit from an agent. His mistake was in being stupid and posting photos of the party he went to in Miami held by the agent.
If being dumb in that manner is a reason not to take him, and if those other reasons you cite are reasons to pass, so be it. But I don't know about the character issue.
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Ive watched tape on both Austin and Paea, granted the tape of Austin is from 2009 but still i perfer Paea alot more than Austin...I even wouldnt mind say Drake Nevis in the 3rd hes a little short but his quick burst and gets in the backfeild really quick and would be perfect next to Rubin,as would Paea
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Well, this thread needed a bump, so have at it.
The Patriots, Bills, Bengals, and Broncos pick ahead of Cleveland. If Belichick & Co. pass on Bowers, I'd suggest we do the same. Still plenty of decent talent to be had if we stay put.
Perusing the list, Justin Houston (could bulk up to play 4-3 DE), Akeem Ayers, Rahim Moore, and Steaven Pea stand out as possibilities on D, and the reviews on Torrey Smith and Tandon Doss looked like fits @ wr. Orlando Franklin is still there and is the highest rated RT still to be had.
If I was forced to bet, I'd put my $$ on the Browns going D again with the high second rounder, and hoping one of the wrs falls to the 27th pick in the 2nd.
We won't touch Austin if Pea is still on the board, and Jernigan lacks the height to be a true #1 WR. We already have a couple of #2 wideouts on the roster.
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I feel like Ayers is going to NE. Bills and Bengals will select a QB. Broncos i could see going with Kyle Rudolph out of Notre Dame. And then we get to us at #37. Heckert spoke highly of Bowers once again last night in the press conference so ill say we take Bowers at #37
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Hankerson would be a nice pick-up... as would Torrey Smith
Aaron Williams (Texas CB) 2nd Rd or Chimdi Chekwa in the 3rd would also be nice.
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