Phil Taylor
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wow, I seriously thought I'd come back and see nothing but praise about the browns managed to do here. Guys, we had desperate need at DE, DT and WR. we can't fill all those friking picks with one. Phil Taylor has been nothing but solid and will be a starter from day one. We got a 2nd rounder and a first round pick next year to trade away from an extremely risky wide receiver, and took a solid DT which was an obvious need. I swear it's like if we don't take the flashy guy that has his name spit out by mcshay or kiper it's a "bad pick". It's kind of sad you guys don't trust that Holmgren and Heckert don't know what they're doing here. Like do you realize how deep the DE pool is this year people? This is the deepest DE pools in years, we will be able to a strong player to fill that need i'm sure of it.
Great pick, great trade, go browns!
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I'm not to interested in how other teams had him ranked. I am looking at how he will fit into our lineup and the whole scheme of things. The man has been reported at weighing in at 380 which may be to heavy for a man with feet problems like he has.
But at 380 any center will have trouble moving him around. If we can get a couple of good years out of him I will be happy with the pick. I'm more stoked about the trade that gave us so many opportunities in jump starting us.
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phil taylor is a stud. hes the top NT prospect in the draft
everything starts from the inside out and phil taylor will definitly be the inside
he was on a lot of teams boards from 22 to 32 and there was very little chance you would've been able to get him at 27 considering i heard the saints were "VERY INTERESTED"
the only reason nobody has heard of him is because you guys all talked about the top 10 prospects in the draft but never considered the picks later in the round which is where it was obvious you'd be picking anyway considering its been a few years since the browns drafted at their original position
phil taylor is a stud. hes the top NT prospect in the draft
everything starts from the inside out and phil taylor will definitly be the inside
he was on a lot of teams boards from 22 to 32 and there was very little chance you would've been able to get him at 27 considering i heard the saints were "VERY INTERESTED"
the only reason nobody has heard of him is because you guys all talked about the top 10 prospects in the draft but never considered the picks later in the round which is where it was obvious you'd be picking anyway considering its been a few years since the browns drafted at their original position
We are going to 4-3 so how does NT equate?????????????
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wow, I seriously thought I'd come back and see nothing but praise about the browns managed to do here. Guys, we had desperate need at DE, DT and WR. we can't fill all those friking picks with one. Phil Taylor has been nothing but solid and will be a starter from day one. We got a 2nd rounder and a first round pick next year to trade away from an extremely risky wide receiver, and took a solid DT which was an obvious need. I swear it's like if we don't take the flashy guy that has his name spit out by mcshay or kiper it's a "bad pick". It's kind of sad you guys don't trust that Holmgren and Heckert don't know what they're doing here. Like do you realize how deep the DE pool is this year people? This is the deepest DE pools in years, we will be able to a strong player to fill that need i'm sure of it.
Great pick, great trade, go browns!
I swear it's like if we don't take the flashy guy that has his name spit out by mcshay or kiper it's a "bad pick".
Great pick, great trade, go browns!
I won't disagree about buying into Kiper and McShay too much. Remember when Kiper ripped the Polians for not taking Trent Dilfer? I think that this guy COULD be good but if you're waiting for this guy to blow up the AFC North, you might be waiting a while. Time will certainly tell. I loved the trade down from #7 but I am not sure I see this guy as the guy you trade back up to get.
Obviously Heckert and Holmgren saw something they liked enough in this kid to do it. They make the $$$ to make that decision. I don't.
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phil taylor is a stud. hes the top NT prospect in the draft
everything starts from the inside out and phil taylor will definitly be the inside
he was on a lot of teams boards from 22 to 32 and there was very little chance you would've been able to get him at 27 considering i heard the saints were "VERY INTERESTED"
the only reason nobody has heard of him is because you guys all talked about the top 10 prospects in the draft but never considered the picks later in the round which is where it was obvious you'd be picking anyway considering its been a few years since the browns drafted at their original position
We are going to 4-3 so how does NT equate?????????????
We are going to 4-3 so how does NT equate?????????????
you'll never guess what defense he played in at baylor
i'll give you a hint.....it was a 4-3
you are too caught up on the label of the position....hes a DT that can play in both a 4-3 and a 3-4....just because hes bigger doesnt mean he cant play in a 4-3
in fact, its where his natural position is
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phil taylor is a stud. hes the top NT prospect in the draft
everything starts from the inside out and phil taylor will definitly be the inside
he was on a lot of teams boards from 22 to 32 and there was very little chance you would've been able to get him at 27 considering i heard the saints were "VERY INTERESTED"
the only reason nobody has heard of him is because you guys all talked about the top 10 prospects in the draft but never considered the picks later in the round which is where it was obvious you'd be picking anyway considering its been a few years since the browns drafted at their original position
We are going to 4-3 so how does NT equate?????????????
We are going to 4-3 so how does NT equate?????????????
In case you haven't noticed, but defenses in the NFL may be labeled as a 4-3, but during the course of a drive (much less a game) they will play a 4-3, 3-4, 46, nickel, dime or any hybrid of the afore mentioned. Forget the label.
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just a quick tidbit on DE still available:
Brooks Reed: a fringe first round pick, strong player
Da'quan Bowers: Oh my God! I can't believe we didn't take him with that pick! he will never fall later and we missed out. That sounds so similar to colt mccoy it's scary really.
Justin Houston: I know he has character issues, but is a top 20 talent that's still available.
Man, it's almost our talented front office knows what they are doing...
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Typical browns fan reaction....
Ward wasn't worth trading up for either....how'd that turn out again?
Typical browns fan reaction....
Ward wasn't worth trading up for either....how'd that turn out again?
Im not mad at the pick. Im mad we had to trade up from 27 to get him. Bowers was more than adequate if Taylor was gone at 27.
DUMB.
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In the new 4-3 we are going to use smaller ends, so wouldn't make sense to have two huge DT's? This guy has done nothing but get better since he got into college and that not only includes his football talent but his character issues as well. Him and Rubin are going to be used to take two linemen at a time, freeing up one of the DE's or a LB on a pass rush. On the off chance they try to get this guy one on one... well my money is on Taylor.
Remember Heckert and Holmgren know things that we don't. They knew about Ward, which turned out good so once again before you start calling this guy a bust, you might as well just wait until the season starts and you see him work.
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We came out of day one with a sorely needed starter on the Dline, an extra 2nd,4th, and a 1st next year while giving up our 3rd. I'd call that a pretty big success. My faith in our FO grows by the day.
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Im not mad at the pick. Im mad we had to trade up from 27 to get him. Bowers was more than adequate if Taylor was gone at 27.
DUMB.
all I can say buddy is that i'm sure glad you post on a browns forum and don't run our team. Like I'm not going to be a dick, but honestly man you just need to digest the situation a little bit an realize just how good we made out. Bowers clearly wasn't first round talent, and if Heckert and Holmgren saw Taylor as the player they wanted they made the right decision. you have NO idea what info they had about Taylor's draft position, I guarantee they knew that he wasn't going to be there at 27. That was their guy, and they've done nothing to prove to me that they make bad decisions
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mikeyP72 said:
We gave up a third round pick to move UP 6 spots to take a player that we could have had at the same position (27). KC took a WR!! Everything GOOD we did by making the Atlanta trade was lost when we lost our 3rd round pick.
Let's pray we can nail our 2nd round picks (unless we blow them again ala Robo and MoMass).
Or pray we have a F/A plan.
1. You have no idea if Taylor would have been there at 27. Obviously our FO thought he wouldn't. No offense but I'll defer to them in that respect.
2. Trading a 3rd some how negates picking up an extra 1st, 2nd, and two 4ths? Seems reasonable.
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If Chiefs were slotted to have Taylor, why did they give up the pick?
If the Raven's eventually drafted Jimmy Smith, then why did they try to get a trade together with the 26 pick to only take so long that they lost it? WHO KNOWS. Maybe the Chiefs had two guys graded the same so they decided to let us have the one so they could get a draft pick and the other guy they wanted.
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KC was going to take this guy. Taylor was by far the #1 NT at the senior bowl. A run-stopping DT in the middle of the line is what we've needed since Rogers was cut, and this guy is the best in the draft at that task.
Browns D has been horrible against the run since the trucks left for Baltimore. This is a good move.
We also get an extra pick tomorrow (2nd) and next year's first.
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Im not mad at the pick. Im mad we had to trade up from 27 to get him. Bowers was more than adequate if Taylor was gone at 27.
DUMB.
all I can say buddy is that i'm sure glad you post on a browns forum and don't run our team. Like I'm not going to be a dick, but honestly man you just need to digest the situation a little bit an realize just how good we made out. Bowers clearly wasn't first round talent, and if Heckert and Holmgren saw Taylor as the player they wanted they made the right decision. you have NO idea what info they had about Taylor's draft position, I guarantee they knew that he wasn't going to be there at 27. That was their guy, and they've done nothing to prove to me that they make bad decisions
all I can say buddy is that i'm sure glad you post on a browns forum and don't run our team. Like I'm not going to be a dick, but honestly man you just need to digest the situation a little bit an realize just how good we made out. Bowers clearly wasn't first round talent, and if Heckert and Holmgren saw Taylor as the player they wanted they made the right decision. you have NO idea what info they had about Taylor's draft position, I guarantee they knew that he wasn't going to be there at 27. That was their guy, and they've done nothing to prove to me that they make bad decisions
All I know is we better draft at least one WR tomorrow. I know thats an ignorant statement, but I hope our organization sees the need at WR like us fans do.
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Answers some questions. Expected to be used on all passing downs while having a smaller guy come in on some passing downs for one of our big guys. Keeps our two middle men fresh, and makes our rush defense instantly better. The guy cried. I like him.
Also those injury concerns with his foot are false. The rumor was that he has a disorder where the bones in his foot fuse together, but all the doctors from the NFL and for the Browns did all the X-Rays and said those claims were 100% false.
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