Phil Taylor
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mikeyP72 said:
Shit you beat me...lol
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mikeyP72 said:
My short-sightedness? Maybe your dumb xxxxing ass missed the link I posted above? Didn't catch that one eh?
Are you referring to the link where he was an injury concern? The same concern that was debunked by our GM in the other link? It is fun watching an idiot who thinks he is intelligent.
Late in the draft process, a rumor surfaced that Taylor had an unusual foot condition in which bones were growing together. But X-rays dispelled the rumor and he was given a clean bill of health.
"Just rumors, that's all it was," he said. "A couple of teams later [in the draft] threw some things out there so they might be able to get me."
Heckert said, "It's no issue whatsoever."
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mikeyP72 said:
Just like Bowers knee was "cleared 100%" but every team passed on him too. We'll see. Trading up and losing a pick still doesn't make sense when there is plenty of talent on the board still. Regardless dude, we could have had a quality player at a position of need at 27, picked a DT at 37, and kept our 3rd round pick.
Don't obsess about that lost third round pick- there's ways to get it back you know- Like trade the second rounder from Atlanta down, trade the fourth rounders up for starters.
I'll have to agree- the Browns run D has sucked forever- and it needed to be addressed.
Obviously there's a whole lot of concern over Bowers knee, or he'd have been off the board long ago. Remains to be seen what we'll do @ wr,because the top three prospects are gone.
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Taylor & Rubin give us two big presences in the interior DL. This gives us a lot of flexibility in who & how we play our DEs & LBs. Too often, we have had a "player" playing next to a "weakness". It looks to me as we are attempting to build this D "inside-out" & that ain't all bad...at least in my opinion it's a positive. Let's see what the next 2 days add to the mix. I think we'll be just fine.
Mike
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No matter what the Browns ever do there will always be plenty of "fans" ready and willing to bitch and moan about it. No one knows if ANY pick is a good pick until after the player has had a chance to actually play the game for a while.
We have to deal with being pissed off and be in a bad mood all xxxxing season every year with our awesome records, so can't we just be optimistic for our team building up in the off season and addressing key needs?
Here is an accurate representation of myself reading this thread
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Remember guys, We coulda gotten Ward and Hardesty in the third or later and Ward turned out pretty good so far. Got to keep it in perspective.I am not thrilled with the pick either though
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wow, I seriously thought I'd come back and see nothing but praise about the browns managed to do here. Guys, we had desperate need at DE, DT and WR. we can't fill all those friking picks with one. Phil Taylor has been nothing but solid and will be a starter from day one. We got a 2nd rounder and a first round pick next year to trade away from an extremely risky wide receiver, and took a solid DT which was an obvious need. I swear it's like if we don't take the flashy guy that has his name spit out by mcshay or kiper it's a "bad pick". It's kind of sad you guys don't trust that Holmgren and Heckert don't know what they're doing here. Like do you realize how deep the DE pool is this year people? This is the deepest DE pools in years, we will be able to a strong player to fill that need i'm sure of it.
Great pick, great trade, go browns!
wow, I seriously thought I'd come back and see nothing but praise about the browns managed to do here. Guys, we had desperate need at DE, DT and WR. we can't fill all those friking picks with one. Phil Taylor has been nothing but solid and will be a starter from day one. We got a 2nd rounder and a first round pick next year to trade away from an extremely risky wide receiver, and took a solid DT which was an obvious need. I swear it's like if we don't take the flashy guy that has his name spit out by mcshay or kiper it's a "bad pick". It's kind of sad you guys don't trust that Holmgren and Heckert don't know what they're doing here. Like do you realize how deep the DE pool is this year people? This is the deepest DE pools in years, we will be able to a strong player to fill that need i'm sure of it.
Great pick, great trade, go browns!
Really? They can't? The Browns suck and will suck for 100 years because they didn't draft that one guy who could have played all three positions. They really needed that guy who can play De, DT, and WR. What a shitty draft, now the Browns will never make the Superbowl next year. They were only one player (who could play DE, DT, and WR) away from going to the superbowl. Now I think I'll just go and root for the Steelers.
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mikeyP72 said:
LOL WHAT HIB??!?!?!!?!?!?!? We used our 1st round pick on a situational defensive lineman??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
WTF are you talking about? Where does anyone say he will be used situationally?
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wow, I seriously thought I'd come back and see nothing but praise about the browns managed to do here. Guys, we had desperate need at DE, DT and WR. we can't fill all those friking picks with one. Phil Taylor has been nothing but solid and will be a starter from day one. We got a 2nd rounder and a first round pick next year to trade away from an extremely risky wide receiver, and took a solid DT which was an obvious need. I swear it's like if we don't take the flashy guy that has his name spit out by mcshay or kiper it's a "bad pick". It's kind of sad you guys don't trust that Holmgren and Heckert don't know what they're doing here. Like do you realize how deep the DE pool is this year people? This is the deepest DE pools in years, we will be able to a strong player to fill that need i'm sure of it.
Great pick, great trade, go browns!
Really? They can't? The Browns suck and will suck for 100 years because they didn't draft that one guy who could have played all three positions. They really needed that guy who can play De, DT, and WR. What a shitty draft, now the Browns will never make the Superbowl next year. They were only one player (who could play DE, DT, and WR) away from going to the superbowl. Now I think I'll just go and root for the Steelers.
Really? They can't? The Browns suck and will suck for 100 years because they didn't draft that one guy who could have played all three positions. They really needed that guy who can play De, DT, and WR. What a shitty draft, now the Browns will never make the Superbowl next year. They were only one player (who could play DE, DT, and WR) away from going to the superbowl. Now I think I'll just go and root for the Steelers.
wow, I seriously hope that was worth the time you wasted writing that. I'm so dumb cause I honestly thought that until you cleared it up! like really dude? I was clearly making a point that people can never see the big picture in a draft and if they don't get the guy all over the news it's a bad pick. The point is that you don't make a growing team better with one pick that encompasses all the needs of the team in the first round. But I will clearly go to your expert knowledge from now on since you are so in the know and can actually read what people write so well! thanks man for the contribution
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Really? They can't? The Browns suck and will suck for 100 years because they didn't draft that one guy who could have played all three positions. They really needed that guy who can play De, DT, and WR. What a shitty draft, now the Browns will never make the Superbowl next year. They were only one player (who could play DE, DT, and WR) away from going to the superbowl. Now I think I'll just go and root for the Steelers.
wow, I seriously hope that was worth the time you wasted writing that. I'm so dumb cause I honestly thought that until you cleared it up! like really dude? I was clearly making a point that people can never see the big picture in a draft and if they don't get the guy all over the news it's a bad pick. The point is that you don't make a growing team better with one pick that encompasses all the needs of the team in the first round. But I will clearly go to your expert knowledge from now on since you are so in the know and can actually read what people write so well! thanks man for the contribution
wow, I seriously hope that was worth the time you wasted writing that. I'm so dumb cause I honestly thought that until you cleared it up! like really dude? I was clearly making a point that people can never see the big picture in a draft and if they don't get the guy all over the news it's a bad pick. The point is that you don't make a growing team better with one pick that encompasses all the needs of the team in the first round. But I will clearly go to your expert knowledge from now on since you are so in the know and can actually read what people write so well! thanks man for the contribution
This is why the ignore feature is AWESOME!
I think Taylor is going to be one of those guys that you don't really hear much about on the broadcast, but he will eat up the trenches... Something that is needed after Shaun Rogers' departure.
I am just hoping for some big pick-ups in Round 2 today...
Otherwise, I think the Browns are going to make some big moves in Free Agency.... Asomugha is my hope, assuming the Jets don't out bid us.
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wow, I seriously hope that was worth the time you wasted writing that. I'm so dumb cause I honestly thought that until you cleared it up! like really dude? I was clearly making a point that people can never see the big picture in a draft and if they don't get the guy all over the news it's a bad pick. The point is that you don't make a growing team better with one pick that encompasses all the needs of the team in the first round. But I will clearly go to your expert knowledge from now on since you are so in the know and can actually read what people write so well! thanks man for the contribution
This is why the ignore feature is AWESOME!
I think Taylor is going to be one of those guys that you don't really hear much about on the broadcast, but he will eat up the trenches... Something that is needed after Shaun Rogers' departure.
I am just hoping for some big pick-ups in Round 2 today...
Otherwise, I think the Browns are going to make some big moves in Free Agency.... Asomugha is my hope, assuming the Jets don't out bid us.
This is why the ignore feature is AWESOME!
I think Taylor is going to be one of those guys that you don't really hear much about on the broadcast, but he will eat up the trenches... Something that is needed after Shaun Rogers' departure.
I am just hoping for some big pick-ups in Round 2 today...
Otherwise, I think the Browns are going to make some big moves in Free Agency.... Asomugha is my hope, assuming the Jets don't out bid us.
haha yea, I mean if FA opens before the draft the second round is going to be crazy for sure. As I said earlier, with the depth of the DE class this year there's still plenty of talent available to take with either pick in the second round. I think we could see either DE/WR taken top of the 2nd round, and a trade up in mid second to get the other piece of the puzzle. The ideal picks for me would be Brooks Reed and Hankerson, but as stated I trust what Heckert and Holmgren are trying to do.
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Really? They can't? The Browns suck and will suck for 100 years because they didn't draft that one guy who could have played all three positions. They really needed that guy who can play De, DT, and WR. What a shitty draft, now the Browns will never make the Superbowl next year. They were only one player (who could play DE, DT, and WR) away from going to the superbowl. Now I think I'll just go and root for the Steelers.
wow, I seriously hope that was worth the time you wasted writing that. I'm so dumb cause I honestly thought that until you cleared it up! like really dude? I was clearly making a point that people can never see the big picture in a draft and if they don't get the guy all over the news it's a bad pick. The point is that you don't make a growing team better with one pick that encompasses all the needs of the team in the first round. But I will clearly go to your expert knowledge from now on since you are so in the know and can actually read what people write so well! thanks man for the contribution
wow, I seriously hope that was worth the time you wasted writing that. I'm so dumb cause I honestly thought that until you cleared it up! like really dude? I was clearly making a point that people can never see the big picture in a draft and if they don't get the guy all over the news it's a bad pick. The point is that you don't make a growing team better with one pick that encompasses all the needs of the team in the first round. But I will clearly go to your expert knowledge from now on since you are so in the know and can actually read what people write so well! thanks man for the contribution
dude.. I was being sarcastic. I actually agree with you, I think it's funny how so many people on here think that the Browns are one playmaker away from being in the super bowl or something. The Browns pretty much need a player at EVERY position.
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If FA opens before the draft, don't expect too many people to sign any where. Focus is on the draft and contracts don't get signed in one day.
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Is the second rounder they got from Atlanta this year's or next year's?
H&H really seem to know what they are doing. I'm very pleased with the extra picks they are getting. A team with needs at nearly every position needs the most picks it can get.
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Is the second rounder they got from Atlanta this year's or next year's?
H&H really seem to know what they are doing. I'm very pleased with the extra picks they are getting. A team with needs at nearly every position needs the most picks it can get.
Is the second rounder they got from Atlanta this year's or next year's?
H&H really seem to know what they are doing. I'm very pleased with the extra picks they are getting. A team with needs at nearly every position needs the most picks it can get.
This year.
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Thanks.
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all I have to say about this pick is TJ Ward. no one knew who he was and now he is a big fan favorite. Let Heckert and Holmgren work. They don't get paid 7+ million a year to be dumb.
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I wouldn't qualify Taylor as a Ward, just because he actually went in his projected range, which was 20-32. He wasn't some unknown who was supposed to go in the 3rd or 4th. He was one of the top people in the draft at his position. Ward on the other hand was projected to at best be a mid 3rd round pick, while other mock drafts like Walterfootbal had him going in the 6th round.
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