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Who Do You Like With The Second Pick?

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  • Maybe the Bengals, Raiders or squeelers. Marvin Austin is hot/cold, inconsistent. Lacks instincts, can be slow to locate...doesn't play with good leverage, handled by double teams,

    and POOR CHARACTER.

    Nope. I like Wilkerson and Paea a ton better

    @calfoxwc said:

    Maybe the Bengals, Raiders or squeelers. Marvin Austin is hot/cold, inconsistent. Lacks instincts, can be slow to locate...doesn't play with good leverage, handled by double teams,

    and POOR CHARACTER.

    Nope. I like Wilkerson and Paea a ton better

    No way Wilkerson falls as he has been climbing. Paea and Austin are about the same. I would love Wilkerson and I am indifferent on the other two, but would rather have Paea as he played last year, but Austin has had a good offseason.

    Where's Romeo Crennel when you need a coin flip?

  • Maybe the Bengals, Raiders or squeelers. Marvin Austin is hot/cold, inconsistent. Lacks instincts, can be slow to locate...doesn't play with good leverage, handled by double teams,

    and POOR CHARACTER.

    Nope. I like Wilkerson and Paea a ton better

    @calfoxwc said:

    Maybe the Bengals, Raiders or squeelers. Marvin Austin is hot/cold, inconsistent. Lacks instincts, can be slow to locate...doesn't play with good leverage, handled by double teams,

    and POOR CHARACTER.

    Nope. I like Wilkerson and Paea a ton better

    I don't know about the "poor character". I saw the ESPN piece on him. The ONLY thing he did was to take "extra benefits" from an agent....and get caught. I suggest that there isn't a person who will be drafted this year that didn't take some kind of extra benefit from an agent. His mistake was in being stupid and posting photos of the party he went to in Miami held by the agent.

    If being dumb in that manner is a reason not to take him, and if those other reasons you cite are reasons to pass, so be it. But I don't know about the character issue.

  • Ive watched tape on both Austin and Paea, granted the tape of Austin is from 2009 but still i perfer Paea alot more than Austin...I even wouldnt mind say Drake Nevis in the 3rd hes a little short but his quick burst and gets in the backfeild really quick and would be perfect next to Rubin,as would Paea

  • Well, this thread needed a bump, so have at it.

    NFL Rankings on who's left

    The Patriots, Bills, Bengals, and Broncos pick ahead of Cleveland. If Belichick & Co. pass on Bowers, I'd suggest we do the same. Still plenty of decent talent to be had if we stay put.

    Perusing the list, Justin Houston (could bulk up to play 4-3 DE), Akeem Ayers, Rahim Moore, and Steaven Pea stand out as possibilities on D, and the reviews on Torrey Smith and Tandon Doss looked like fits @ wr. Orlando Franklin is still there and is the highest rated RT still to be had.

    If I was forced to bet, I'd put my $$ on the Browns going D again with the high second rounder, and hoping one of the wrs falls to the 27th pick in the 2nd.

    We won't touch Austin if Pea is still on the board, and Jernigan lacks the height to be a true #1 WR. We already have a couple of #2 wideouts on the roster.

  • I feel like Ayers is going to NE. Bills and Bengals will select a QB. Broncos i could see going with Kyle Rudolph out of Notre Dame. And then we get to us at #37. Heckert spoke highly of Bowers once again last night in the press conference so ill say we take Bowers at #37

  • Hankerson would be a nice pick-up... as would Torrey Smith

    Aaron Williams (Texas CB) 2nd Rd or Chimdi Chekwa in the 3rd would also be nice.

  • Hankerson would be a nice pick-up... as would Torrey Smith

    Aaron Williams (Texas CB) 2nd Rd or Chimdi Chekwa in the 3rd would also be nice.

    @loyalty said:

    Hankerson would be a nice pick-up... as would Torrey Smith

    Aaron Williams (Texas CB) 2nd Rd or Chimdi Chekwa in the 3rd would also be nice.

    Williams would be my pick, if Bowers is not there. I say give NE our first next year "Atlanta" then get the 2 2nd round NE picks, plus a 3rd.

  • My pig board so far is Bowers and a tie between Brooks Reed and Williams. I am honestly surprised that the Steelers did not go for Williams. Seems like the smarter pick. Heyward is going to be stuck as a back up for at least two years and there is always the chance his elbow never heals right, while at least Williams would have been the starting Nickle CB if they did end up resigning Taylor.

    After those 3 guys it's Bailey and Harris from Miami with the pick. (Really could be CB with this pick considering all that there is alot of first round talent still on the board as just like DE). If we don't go DE with our first second round pick then expect us to go that way with our second one. If we go DE with the first then our second will more than likely be between a CB and a WR.

  • Ayers would be a good one, if not, I like Jernigan.

  • Well, this thread needed a bump, so have at it.

    NFL Rankings on who's left

    The Patriots, Bills, Bengals, and Broncos pick ahead of Cleveland. If Belichick & Co. pass on Bowers, I'd suggest we do the same. Still plenty of decent talent to be had if we stay put.

    Perusing the list, Justin Houston (could bulk up to play 4-3 DE), Akeem Ayers, Rahim Moore, and Steaven Pea stand out as possibilities on D, and the reviews on Torrey Smith and Tandon Doss looked like fits @ wr. Orlando Franklin is still there and is the highest rated RT still to be had.

    If I was forced to bet, I'd put my $$ on the Browns going D again with the high second rounder, and hoping one of the wrs falls to the 27th pick in the 2nd.

    We won't touch Austin if Pea is still on the board, and Jernigan lacks the height to be a true #1 WR. We already have a couple of #2 wideouts on the roster.

    @hoorta said:

    Well, this thread needed a bump, so have at it.

    NFL Rankings on who's left

    The Patriots, Bills, Bengals, and Broncos pick ahead of Cleveland. If Belichick & Co. pass on Bowers, I'd suggest we do the same. Still plenty of decent talent to be had if we stay put.

    Perusing the list, Justin Houston (could bulk up to play 4-3 DE), Akeem Ayers, Rahim Moore, and Steaven Pea stand out as possibilities on D, and the reviews on Torrey Smith and Tandon Doss looked like fits @ wr. Orlando Franklin is still there and is the highest rated RT still to be had.

    If I was forced to bet, I'd put my $$ on the Browns going D again with the high second rounder, and hoping one of the wrs falls to the 27th pick in the 2nd.

    We won't touch Austin if Pea is still on the board, and Jernigan lacks the height to be a true #1 WR. We already have a couple of #2 wideouts on the roster.

    With the selection of Taylor, I doubt seriously that Browns will take another DT like Paea.

    Of course, there is NO way of telling who they have high on their draft board..but note, just like last year with Colt McCoy the Browns may be willing to take a chance on a player they thought had fallen, so it is not out of the realm of possibility they could go Bowers.

    DE is a serious need, and what I have heard is that Bowers is a prototypical 4-3 DE....as long as he stays healthy.

  • Zombo said:

    I know the offense guys will have a stroke, but if we picked up Bowers and Matthews with our two second rounders I would jizz in my pants.

    Zombo

    No joke man... I am with you on this one.

    nutting.gif

  • I think we're probably gonna get Bowers, most of the teams that pick ahead of us in the 2nd are 3-4 teams, although I think the Broncos might grab him.

    I'd be happy to get him and Williams the CB from Texas, or the best available WR. But I have a feeling we're not going to take any WRs because of Holmgren's belief that the previous coaching staff didn't "utlize them enough". I really feel like Massaquoi would be a much better player as a #2, he just doesn't seem like a #1 WR in any shape or form. If we had a true #1 WR, it would make our current WRs benefit so much more, Robo would benefit as the #3 a lot as well.

  • Please no bowers! There is a reason why he is getting passed up..

    I love what we have done so far.. I would like to see some more safe, quality picks. We need to get guys who will be on our roster not ir..

    Bowers knee is bone on bone. People think he is best value, but he is a reach.

  • I don't care when it happens but we need to get a wr who can stretch the field.. robo and momass are so slow I could cover them..

  • Please no bowers! There is a reason why he is getting passed up..

    I love what we have done so far.. I would like to see some more safe, quality picks. We need to get guys who will be on our roster not ir..

    Bowers knee is bone on bone. People think he is best value, but he is a reach.

    @wrrebel said:

    Please no bowers! There is a reason why he is getting passed up..

    I love what we have done so far.. I would like to see some more safe, quality picks. We need to get guys who will be on our roster not ir..

    Bowers knee is bone on bone. People think he is best value, but he is a reach.

    He is Montario Hardesty or Kris Jenkins... Potential... but it is a foregone conclusion that he will get injured more often than he will play.

    I want to believe in him but I agree, he is a reach.

  • Exactly.. best case scenario for bowers is he does what winslow does. Where he doesn't practice and plays on some sundays. With his big frame and postition he plays it won't work out..

    Big time bust alert!

  • 37. Jabaal Sheard

    59. Greg Little

    70. Dontay Moch

    This would get the pass rush and WR..Build the D..

  • 37. Jabaal Sheard

    59. Greg Little

    70. Dontay Moch

    This would get the pass rush and WR..Build the D..

    Bowers would be worth nothing higher than a 4th round pick, IMHO.

    @b86b said:

    37. Jabaal Sheard

    59. Greg Little

    70. Dontay Moch

    This would get the pass rush and WR..Build the D..

    I thought we sent the 70th pick to Kansas City when we moved up to get Taylor...?

    Greg Little would also be jizz-tastic.

  • Bowers would be worth nothing higher than a 4th round pick, IMHO.

    @b86b said:

    37. Jabaal Sheard

    59. Greg Little

    70. Dontay Moch

    This would get the pass rush and WR..Build the D..

    I thought we sent the 70th pick to Kansas City when we moved up to get Taylor...?

    Greg Little would also be jizz-tastic.

    @loyalty said:

    Bowers would be worth nothing higher than a 4th round pick, IMHO.

    I thought we sent the 70th pick to Kansas City when we moved up to get Taylor...?

    Greg Little would also be jizz-tastic.

    You're right forgot bout that..

  • 37. Jabaal Sheard

    59. Greg Little

    70. Dontay Moch

    This would get the pass rush and WR..Build the D..

    @b86b said:

    37. Jabaal Sheard

    59. Greg Little

    70. Dontay Moch

    This would get the pass rush and WR..Build the D..

    did well cept for the stupid 70 pick we didn't have...I gotta go buy a mega millions ticket.