2Nd Round Board
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I said it last draft, and I will say it again this year. We need a go to WR whether it is via draft or free agency. I am saying this despite being a defense first kind of guy. WR is just such a glaring no talent vortex for us that after trading mr. new york essence, we have failed to fill. I was hoping we would get AJ Green or Julio Jones, and I was initially pissed that we traded out of the 6 pick, but after hearing what we got, that was an awesome move. Now we just have to trust the Heckert/Holmgren braintrust to actually use those picks on quality players.
I said it last draft, and I will say it again this year. We need a go to WR whether it is via draft or free agency. I am saying this despite being a defense first kind of guy. WR is just such a glaring no talent vortex for us that after trading mr. new york essence, we have failed to fill. I was hoping we would get AJ Green or Julio Jones, and I was initially pissed that we traded out of the 6 pick, but after hearing what we got, that was an awesome move. Now we just have to trust the Heckert/Holmgren braintrust to actually use those picks on quality players.
I felt the same, but if you look at what we did, we moved up and traded out of the 3rd round... Leaving two picks in the 2nd round and ZERO in the third.
That tells me they have some plans to either move up in the first 2 or 3 picks today OR they are going to fill more needs...
I want bowers with the first pick in the round. than hopefully a WR or a linebacker
My big board for day 2....
1. Akeem Ayers (OLB)
2. Da'Quan Bowers (DT/DE) - His knee scares the hell out of me, but he was a Top 15 prospect and we need to fill up that 4-3 Dline
3. Aaron Williams (Missed out on Patrick Peterson, would love to see us get a CB/S to help a porous secondary)
4. Torrey Smith (At this point, WRs are almost a dime a dozen... He is the best availble IMO.
5. DeMarco Murray (Gotta Prep for the Curse) - I know we have Hillis, but fact is that the AFC North is HELL for HBs and the Browns need depth. He has speed as well.
6. Titus Young - A possible 'steal' if his playmaking ability pays off.
6a. Casey Matthews (MLB) - The name says it all.. For the love of god, get someone to replace D'Qwell "I'm Broken" Jackson
7. Leonard Hankerson - The guy has stone hands at times, but had nice flashes against the Bucks.
8. Edmund Gates (WR) - 4.31 40 - finally a FAST guy... unless he gets broken in half.
FREE AGENTS/TRADE BAIT
Randy Moss - Give him a front loaded 2 year deal... cut him if he goes into 'Oakland Mode'
Steve Smith - He is a veteran with proven ability and his long-time QB is a back-up here... maybe he could be talked into coming?
Vincent Jackson - Talent is obvious... the rest, not so much
Nnamdi Asomugha - We have money, spend it on the best DB out there and we are scary to pass against from a secondary perspective.
Barrett Ruud - Don't know if he was re-signed but the dude is like a defensive Peyton Hillis
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Would not be upset with any combo of Bowers and Smith/Young/Hankerson. I would like to see Matthews here too but we need to fill some other holes more than MLB. And we don't even know when or how long a free agency will be this year...if there is free agency and who will be available as a FA. Can't depend on FA to fill those holes.
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Right now I really think that we take either Williams for Harris first. Both could have easily went in the first round (Williams should have been gone at 31 with the Steelers). I like them both. Williams has really good size and can play both corner and safety, plus he is a Colt McCoy teammate and should like player here because of that. Harris was the 2nd rated CB behind Peterson in their recruiting class. Still managed to have a good college career while people are saying he was improperly coached at Miami and could explode with the right coach in the NFL (how about the guy that coached both Joe Haden and TJ Ward last year). After that I think we take a DE with the second pick in the 2nd round. Bailey or Acho, maybe Houston if he keeps falling. We won't look at WR until round 4 or 5.
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Here is the draft order for Day 2 at this point:
1.New England
2.Buffalo
3.Cincinnati
4.Denver Broncos
5.Cleveland Brown
6.Arizona Cardinals
7.Tennessee Titans
8.Dallas Cowboys
9.Washington Redskins
10.Houston Texans
11.Minnesota Vikings
12.Detroit Lions
13.San Francisco 49ers
14.Denver Broncos
15.St. Louis Rams
16.Oakland Raiders
17.Washington Redskins
18.San Diego Chargers
19.Tampa Bay Buccaneers
20.NY Giants
21.Indianapolis Colts
22.Philadelphia Eagles
23.Kansas City Chiefs
24.New Orleans Saints
25.Seattle Seahawks
26.Baltimore Ravens
27.Cleveland Browns
28.New England Patriots
29.San Diego Chargers
30.Chicago Bears
31.Pittsburgh Steelers
32.Green Bay Packers
And here is a list of the top 32 prospects left per one draft service, in order:
DaQuan Bowers DE Clemson
Ryan Mallet QB Arkansas
Akeem Ayers LB UCLA
Brook Reed LB Arizona
Stephen Paea DT Ore. St.
Justin Houston DE Georgia
Torrey Smith WR Maryland
Aaron Williams CB Texas
Brandon Harris CB Miami
Mike LeShoure RB Illinois
Raheem Moore S UCLA
Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame
Rodney Hudson C FSU
Allen Bailey DE Miami
Bruce Carter LB North Carolina
Drake Nevis DT LSU
Andy Dalton QB TCU
Benjamin Ijalana OT/G Villanova
Sam Acho DE Texas
Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia
Randall Cobb WR Kentucky
Leonard Hankerson WR Miami
Christian Ballard DE Iowa
Marvin Austen DT North Carolina
Titus Young WR Boise
Curtis Brown CB Texas
DaVon House CB New Mexico
Jurrell Casey DT USC
Dontay Moch DE Nevada
Ryan Williams RB Va. Tech
Quan Sturdivant CB NC
Stefan Wisniewiski C Penn St.
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I would really love for the Brownies to roll the dice on Bowers. If the dude is healthy and can play he could be an absolute beast and a true playmaker on defense (which we desperately need)I would even go as far as trading the Falcons first and a fourth (either this yr or next yr) to get that first pick in the second. We could grab Bowers, A CB, and BPA at the end of the second. I am fine with grabbing Greg Little as a WR later on as I think that kid is going to be a beast.
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How does this look for how the first part of the second round would go:
1.New England Stepen Paea DT
2.Buffalo Andy Dalton QB
3.Cincinnati DaQuon Bowers DE
4.Denver Broncos Kyle Rudolph TE
5.Cleveland Browns Sam Acho DE !!
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If you watch the Heckert/Shurmer post draft presser on Clevelandbrowns.com Heckert says that he isn't to concerned about Bowers injury ... just saying. I'm normally a fan of the safe pick ... but my gut is really hoping we roll the dice and grab Bowers. I would prefer to move Atlanta's first rounder to the Pats (if we can) so we can also have 2 more second rounders w Bowers. I think realistically if we could pull that off it will give us a big enough face lift to really compete next year.
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If you watch the Heckert/Shurmer post draft presser on Clevelandbrowns.com Heckert says that he isn't to concerned about Bowers injury ... just saying. I'm normally a fan of the safe pick ... but my gut is really hoping we roll the dice and grab Bowers. I would prefer to move Atlanta's first rounder to the Pats (if we can) so we can also have 2 more second rounders w Bowers. I think realistically if we could pull that off it will give us a big enough face lift to really compete next year.
If you watch the Heckert/Shurmer post draft presser on Clevelandbrowns.com Heckert says that he isn't to concerned about Bowers injury ... just saying. I'm normally a fan of the safe pick ... but my gut is really hoping we roll the dice and grab Bowers. I would prefer to move Atlanta's first rounder to the Pats (if we can) so we can also have 2 more second rounders w Bowers. I think realistically if we could pull that off it will give us a big enough face lift to really compete next year.
I totally agree. If we can get Bowers with that pick and then nab a wr and either a CB or RT all in the 2nd round, then giving up that 1st from the falcons well worth it.
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I would love to see the Browns pick up Jabaal Sheard DE/Pittsburgh at 37 and then Leonard Hankerson WR/Miami(Fl) or Titus Young WR/Boise St at 59.
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I would really love us to try and trade to get the Pats pick and grab Bowers. He was a top 5 talent. No need to let him slide to a division rival.
I would really love us to try and trade to get the Pats pick and grab Bowers. He was a top 5 talent. No need to let him slide to a division rival.
I wouldn't- at this point it would cost too much to move up a few slots. Oh well, that third round pick we traded away would have come in really handy about now, but who in their right mind would have thought Bowers would still be on the board in the second round?
And just like the Brady Quinn fiasco, there HAS to be a reason every team with a first round pick passed on the guy yesterday.
Hmmmmm...... Heckert had no problems rolling the dice on injury risks last year (Ward & Hardesty) so maybe that will be the pick, if he's still on the board.
PS- I'm still looking for the Bengals to take a qb- regardless if the Bills take Dalton or not. The Pats and Broncos probably will go BPA on D with their picks, so little chance of Bowers still being there when the Browns pick.
My choices? Houston for DE, and Smith @ wr.
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I don't think we will take Bowers, not because of his injury, but because he is not a prototypical DE for our 4-3. Especially now that we have taken Taylor, I think BOTH of our DE's are going to have to be lighter and faster ends. I look for us to take Reed or Sheard at DE in that first 2nd round pick, or we go DB. Two possible DE's with the second pick in the 2nd would be Acho and Bailey.
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DaQuan Bowers DE Clemson
Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia
Aaron Williams CB Texas
Akeem Ayers LB UCLA
Brook Reed LB Arizona
Raheem Moore S UCLA
Torrey Smith WR Maryland
Brandon Harris CB Miami
Titus Young WR Boise
There's my big board in order...I like Bowers alot. I like Dowling and Williams over B.Harris. I think going CB early round 2 is the way to go. You can Never have enough talent in the defensive backfield.
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Houston and Jernigan would be my pick today, stickin to my original board lol
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My Big Board for tomorrow looks like this:
1. WR Torrey Smith, Maryland
2. WR Leonard Hankerson, Miami (FL)
3. WR Titus Young, Boise State
4. CB Brandon Harris, Miami (FL)
5. WR/KR Randall Cob, Kentucky
6. FS Rahim Moore, UCLA
7. DE/OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA
8. OT Marcus Gilbert, Florida
9. OT/G Will Rackley, LeHigh
10. DE Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
What is on your wishlist tomorrow?
My Big Board for tomorrow looks like this:
1. WR Torrey Smith, Maryland
2. WR Leonard Hankerson, Miami (FL)
3. WR Titus Young, Boise State
4. CB Brandon Harris, Miami (FL)
5. WR/KR Randall Cob, Kentucky
6. FS Rahim Moore, UCLA
7. DE/OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA
8. OT Marcus Gilbert, Florida
9. OT/G Will Rackley, LeHigh
10. DE Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
What is on your wishlist tomorrow?
If people who touch the ball stink you will never be better than losing..........................we stink on roster with people who touch the ball.........I thought Holmgren and Heckert understood this.........maybe I hope not they are just another succession of buffoonery pandering the Dawg Pound stupidity
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I would actually like to see Paea with the first pick in the second round. Good teams are built from the inside out.
Houston has not played with his hand on the ground much, he will not be a very good DE at the pro level. I'd rather put Paea next to Rubin and Taylor, he played DE at times in college.
Some WR/CB will be good value in the end of round2.
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