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  • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

    You forgot about Jackson.

    Hillis-iz-Boss said:

    You forgot about Jackson.

    D'Qwell Jackson? He hasn't started in two years with injuries and I am not sure he will be a starter this coming season.

  • yea but he is the player who has played for the Browns the longest, being drafted in 2006.

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    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Occupying a roster spot isn't much use in this discussion....been here 5 years, played (poorly) for only 3.

  • chocoC choco

    Occupying a roster spot isn't much use in this discussion....been here 5 years, played (poorly) for only 3.

    @choco said:

    Occupying a roster spot isn't much use in this discussion....been here 5 years, played (poorly) for only 3.

    He has actually played well the years he wasn't on IR. I don't know how you can consider the season he had 150 tackles a poor performance.

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  • So he had alot of tackles....80% of which were 5+ yards downfield, no TFL. I'm sick of watching him get run over again and again....posterized. has poor anticipation, slow reads, and can't get off blocks. Other than that, he's fine.

    Anything besides number of tackles that makes u think he's worth a roster spot?

  • And if I recall.....our offense sucked which meant the D spent alot of time on the field. So the data may be skewed due to the number of playshe was on the field.

    He may have been the best of a terrible defensive unit....that does not mean he's good by any stretch.

  • chocoC choco

    And if I recall.....our offense sucked which meant the D spent alot of time on the field. So the data may be skewed due to the number of playshe was on the field.

    He may have been the best of a terrible defensive unit....that does not mean he's good by any stretch.

    @choco said:

    And if I recall.....our offense sucked which meant the D spent alot of time on the field. So the data may be skewed due to the number of playshe was on the field.

    He may have been the best of a terrible defensive unit....that does not mean he's good by any stretch.

    But we are not going to know until he gets back on the field this season. I personally don't think a poor player who just happen to be the best person on defense is going to put up numbers like he did just because.

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  • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

    yea but he is the player who has played for the Browns the longest, being drafted in 2006.

    Hillis-iz-Boss said:

    yea but he is the player who has played for the Browns the longest, being drafted in 2006.

    Actually, long snapper Ryan Pontbriand has been here longer. He was drafted in like '04 or '03. And of course don't forget Phil Dawson who has been here since 1999, though he wasn't drafted.

  • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

    @choco said:

    And if I recall.....our offense sucked which meant the D spent alot of time on the field. So the data may be skewed due to the number of playshe was on the field.

    He may have been the best of a terrible defensive unit....that does not mean he's good by any stretch.

    But we are not going to know until he gets back on the field this season. I personally don't think a poor player who just happen to be the best person on defense is going to put up numbers like he did just because.

    Hillis-iz-Boss said:

    But we are not going to know until he gets back on the field this season. I personally don't think a poor player who just happen to be the best person on defense is going to put up numbers like he did just because.

    Jackson, when he was playing and when he was healthy, was at best an average LB. I do not list him as a starter because he hasn't played in 2 years.

    Let's put it this way: with the Browns going to the 4-3, Dairy Queen isn't going to make the list of 4-3 MLB greats alongside the likes of Dick Butkus, Ray Nitscke, Jack Lambert, Ray Lewis,Joe Schmidt, Sam Huff, Mike Singletary, Chuck Bednarik, Willie Lanier or even current guys like Patrick Willis and Brian Urlacher. He will be lucky if he is mentioned with Tom Cousineau.

    In next year's draft there may be a few MLB prospects worth looking at:

    Vontaze Burfict of Arizona State

    Luke Kuechly of Boston College

    Manti Te'o of Notre Dame

  • I disliked Roethlisberger before he started sexually harassing women. Wait a minute, how long ago was that? lol.

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  • Taylor has to be on the field on 3rd down for this to happen. He has the size, I really hope that he works on conditioning he could be the next beast NT.

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  • M MDHQ

    Taylor has to be on the field on 3rd down for this to happen. He has the size, I really hope that he works on conditioning he could be the next beast NT.

    @mdhq said:

    Taylor has to be on the field on 3rd down for this to happen. He has the size, I really hope that he works on conditioning he could be the next beast NT.

    For the 10th time Taylor played 80 snaps a game last season, there isn't any reason he can't do it for the Browns next season. Heavy weight does not mean lazy.

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  • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

    @mdhq said:

    Taylor has to be on the field on 3rd down for this to happen. He has the size, I really hope that he works on conditioning he could be the next beast NT.

    For the 10th time Taylor played 80 snaps a game last season, there isn't any reason he can't do it for the Browns next season. Heavy weight does not mean lazy.

    Hillis-iz-Boss said:

    For the 10th time Taylor played 80 snaps a game last season, there isn't any reason he can't do it for the Browns next season. Heavy weight does not mean lazy.

    tell that to casey hampton

    and haynesworth

    Harry BuffaloH 1 Reply

  • Attitude/work ethic/honor/love for the game, or lack thereof, does not equal "real big". get real.

    Taylor is young, and a very big kid, and he's a player who loves the game. You watch him on film and he's scary.

  • KentLifeK KentLife

    Hillis-iz-Boss said:

    For the 10th time Taylor played 80 snaps a game last season, there isn't any reason he can't do it for the Browns next season. Heavy weight does not mean lazy.

    tell that to casey hampton

    and haynesworth

    @kentlife said:

    tell that to casey hampton

    and haynesworth

    Last I checked those were big guys who had been documented for being lazy by how the acted on the field and in practice and Taylor is just a 334 pound DL. The only comparison I am seeing between all these players is size, so your argument would be that anyone above a certain weight in football is lazy even though there are several 330 plus DL players in the NFL who have great work ethics and stamina. Don't count this kid as lazy just because of his size while there is documented proof that he works hard and played more snaps than most of the DL players that cam out in this draft.

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