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Who Will Have The Better Career, Tebow Or Mccoy

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  • I agree, winning titles is about as over rated as it gets for the reasons you mention.

    When you look at players, you should look at them the same way you look at baseball players.....you mostly rate them on their individual effort.

    Titles are great, but that is the result of team effort.

    Dilfer was a SB winning QB, but I'd take Marino over him any day of the week.

  • I agree, winning titles is about as over rated as it gets for the reasons you mention.

    When you look at players, you should look at them the same way you look at baseball players.....you mostly rate them on their individual effort.

    Titles are great, but that is the result of team effort.

    Dilfer was a SB winning QB, but I'd take Marino over him any day of the week.

    @ballpeen said:

    I agree, winning titles is about as over rated as it gets for the reasons you mention.

    When you look at players, you should look at them the same way you look at baseball players.....you mostly rate them on their individual effort.

    Titles are great, but that is the result of team effort.

    Dilfer was a SB winning QB, but I'd take Marino over him any day of the week.

    You misunderstood my point im saying compare Montana to Marino or even Brady to Marino...

    Stats are what you judge a QB by no doubt but if you set every single Passing record and never win a Ring are you better than a guy who is nearly as close statiscally but has SB rings???

  • @ballpeen said:

    I agree, winning titles is about as over rated as it gets for the reasons you mention.

    When you look at players, you should look at them the same way you look at baseball players.....you mostly rate them on their individual effort.

    Titles are great, but that is the result of team effort.

    Dilfer was a SB winning QB, but I'd take Marino over him any day of the week.

    You misunderstood my point im saying compare Montana to Marino or even Brady to Marino...

    Stats are what you judge a QB by no doubt but if you set every single Passing record and never win a Ring are you better than a guy who is nearly as close statiscally but has SB rings???

    @nw220 said:

    You misunderstood my point im saying compare Montana to Marino or even Brady to Marino...

    Stats are what you judge a QB by no doubt but if you set every single Passing record and never win a Ring are you better than a guy who is nearly as close statiscally but has SB rings???

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    Yes. You are. You just didn't have the best team. you are still the best in your position based on the fact that you hold all the records.

    Jordan's not better than LeBron because he has six rings. He's just a better clutch shooter, but LeBron would still wax him in one on one, sadly.

  • @nw220 said:

    You misunderstood my point im saying compare Montana to Marino or even Brady to Marino...

    Stats are what you judge a QB by no doubt but if you set every single Passing record and never win a Ring are you better than a guy who is nearly as close statiscally but has SB rings???

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    Yes. You are. You just didn't have the best team. you are still the best in your position based on the fact that you hold all the records.

    Jordan's not better than LeBron because he has six rings. He's just a better clutch shooter, but LeBron would still wax him in one on one, sadly.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Jordan's not better than LeBron because he has six rings. He's just a better clutch shooter,

    Judging by this year's playoffs, Lebron appears to be working hard on that part of his game.

  • As was said....I think the stats tell the story.

    I think one can argue intangibles, and I think Titles fall in to that category.

    No doubt they help build ones reputation and legacy, but they don't really do anything that somehow make the players play on the field any better.

  • Ethier way Jordan in his prime compared to Lebron now, Jordan would easily win that matchup

  • McCoy will be Above Average as an NFL QB. Tebow will not.

  • McCoy will be Above Average as an NFL QB. Tebow will not.

    @bunsofsteel08 said:

    McCoy will be Above Average as an NFL QB. Tebow will not.

    By that I assume you mean he will be well below average? Or do you mean he will be superstar caliber?

  • There were a lot of people on this site who wanted the Browns to select Clausen. Remember him? The ONE who had experience in a pro-type offense? He had played under a former professional coach? Where are all those guys who were singing Clausen's praises now?

    McCoy and Bradford are the top two qb's out of that draft.

    I also find it interesting that some of you folks continue to blast McCoy because of his inability to complete the national championship game, but you sing Bradford's praises when he didn't return to complete the season when he had the same type of injury McCoy did. Bradford was, however. smart to look forward to his pro career and not take anymore chances. McCoy would have been foolish to have tried to come back.

    I agree with the previous poster who said it will be fun to see McCoy and Bradford match up against each other again.

  • There were a lot of people on this site who wanted the Browns to select Clausen. Remember him? The ONE who had experience in a pro-type offense? He had played under a former professional coach? Where are all those guys who were singing Clausen's praises now?

    McCoy and Bradford are the top two qb's out of that draft.

    I also find it interesting that some of you folks continue to blast McCoy because of his inability to complete the national championship game, but you sing Bradford's praises when he didn't return to complete the season when he had the same type of injury McCoy did. Bradford was, however. smart to look forward to his pro career and not take anymore chances. McCoy would have been foolish to have tried to come back.

    I agree with the previous poster who said it will be fun to see McCoy and Bradford match up against each other again.

    @hawgdawg said:

    There were a lot of people on this site who wanted the Browns to select Clausen. Remember him? The ONE who had experience in a pro-type offense? He had played under a former professional coach? Where are all those guys who were singing Clausen's praises now?

    McCoy and Bradford are the top two qb's out of that draft.

    I also find it interesting that some of you folks continue to blast McCoy because of his inability to complete the national championship game, but you sing Bradford's praises when he didn't return to complete the season when he had the same type of injury McCoy did. Bradford was, however. smart to look forward to his pro career and not take anymore chances. McCoy would have been foolish to have tried to come back.

    I agree with the previous poster who said it will be fun to see McCoy and Bradford match up against each other again.

    I think it will take 3-4 years to truly evaluate last year's draft class of QBs. You never know. Maybe Clausen will turn out to be the class of that draft.

    One article I saw says that the 2004 draft class of QBs which included E. Manning, Rivers, and Roethlisberger may be even better than the 1983 QB class with Elway, Marino, and Kelly et al. Any one agree?