With The 1St And 4Th Pick In The Nba Draft
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With the draft about an hour away, the rumor mill's heating up. Bobcats, Bucks and Kings have already made a blockbuster trade involving lottery picks. There's reports we're trying to acquire a 3rd first round pick in the 20's range. Alot going on, I don't think I've ever been this excited for an NBA draft.
According to "sources" we've settled on Irving at 1 and Jonas V. at 4. One GM has said if he was drafting #1 overall he would take Jonas first, so he must be pretty good, I wouldn't be upset with the pick.
Who do you want with the first and forth selections? And maybe a sleeper in the middle rounds if we pick up another 1st round pick.
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Williams and Knight since Irving and Williams won't happen.. That Jonas kid won't be able to play in US, Cavs need help now not in 2 to 3 years...
Williams and Knight since Irving and Williams won't happen.. That Jonas kid won't be able to play in US, Cavs need help now not in 2 to 3 years...
In one year.....maybe after January,
Williams is a tweener...forget the tweeners.
Irving is as sure a thing at PG as there is....he will be a top player at that position.
Irving may not end up the best player in this draft, but he is as sure as it gets, so I take that. Go with solid players who are going to be top players since this draft lacks a single "blockbuster" player.
Then go big....if Jonas is who the scouts like....so be it.
The 2nd pick is the key pick....that is the pick the scouts have to get right.
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mikeyP72 said:
Cavs blew it again.
At least the Browns can draft semi-successfully. Wonder how long it is before Chris Grant is gone?
I just wish we could know who Grant would have actually picked! Thompson was Gilbert's pick...looks like he's running the show again!
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mikeyP72 said:
Cavs blew it again.
At least the Browns can draft semi-successfully. Wonder how long it is before Chris Grant is gone?
You don't have a damn clue as to whether the Cavs blew it. That is something that we will all have to wait and see. However, I will make a prediction: Tristan Thompson will have a better NBA career than Williams.
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At least we can pronounce the names of the Cavs draftees! lol
We DID get probably the best player in the draft in Irving & we'll see what happens with Thompson. My concern with him is his free throw shooting & limited range, but those may improve, & he is said to be excellent defensively. I also don't think the Cavs are even close to being done (trades & FA), so let's see what happens.
Mike
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mikeyP72 said:
Thompson is not a top 4 talent. We have a PF almost identical to him in JJ Hickson. Who is our starting SG next year? SF? Center? Varajeo? LOL...
Ok, blind faith is obviously something you guys have.
We traded a SHOOTER stretch 4 in Harper for 2 FUTURE 2nd round (likely late 2nd round, because theyre from the Magic) picks. Why? No other needs on this team? Then we picked another PF, who will not even play for the Cavs..... He'd rather live in Tel Aviv and take rockets and mortars from HAMAS daily then play for our team...
So we have Over aged and paid Jamison, 4 PG's, and 6 PF's on this team.
Tell me what the plan is, tell me we're going to go after someone who can SCORE points.. we will be in the top 5 of the lottery again next year. I wouldn't mind, if not for the fact that Gilbert promised quick results... we had ASSETS available like Sessions, a TPE, HICKSON since we picked Thompson... and we made ZERO moves. I'm disappointed in the effort. After we picked Gilbert's sweetheart Thompson, he left to go play basketball with his kids. Telling that his day was done.
TPE expiring, Sessions or Baron Davis out, no worthwhile shooting options at SG and SF and no true center. Things are looking up, so glad we had such a great draft.
So you expected to solve all these problems with 2 picks? When there were only 2 guys worth a top 10 pick at all? When there were no SF or SG worth top 10?
You gotta have a trade partner to pull off a trade. If nobody wants the crap you got, why would they trade for it?
It isn't blind faith. Its being realistic about what options were really available.
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I ignore everyone who likes the second round.
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At least we can pronounce the names of the Cavs draftees! lol
We DID get probably the best player in the draft in Irving & we'll see what happens with Thompson. My concern with him is his free throw shooting & limited range, but those may improve, & he is said to be excellent defensively. I also don't think the Cavs are even close to being done (trades & FA), so let's see what happens.
Mike
At least we can pronounce the names of the Cavs draftees! lol
We DID get probably the best player in the draft in Irving & we'll see what happens with Thompson. My concern with him is his free throw shooting & limited range, but those may improve, & he is said to be excellent defensively. I also don't think the Cavs are even close to being done (trades & FA), so let's see what happens.
Mike
I wouldn't count on him getting much better at the free throw line.
That is as basic as it gets and takes up a nice chunk of practice...especially at the close of practice.
I also don't like the words used concerning his ability to shoot in general.
Bottom line is the guy is a rebound machine. If he can grab 6-8 O rebounds and another 8-10 on the defensive end, we can live with his shooting.
If he doesn't dominate the boards on a regular basis and play solid D, then it wasn't a very good pick.
To me defense is worth double.....if you prevent 6 points from being scored by blocking 3 shots, it's the same as allowing those points and scoring 12.
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At least we can pronounce the names of the Cavs draftees! lol
We DID get probably the best player in the draft in Irving & we'll see what happens with Thompson. My concern with him is his free throw shooting & limited range, but those may improve, & he is said to be excellent defensively. I also don't think the Cavs are even close to being done (trades & FA), so let's see what happens.
Mike
I wouldn't count on him getting much better at the free throw line.
That is as basic as it gets and takes up a nice chunk of practice...especially at the close of practice.
I also don't like the words used concerning his ability to shoot in general.
Bottom line is the guy is a rebound machine. If he can grab 6-8 O rebounds and another 8-10 on the defensive end, we can live with his shooting.
If he doesn't dominate the boards on a regular basis and play solid D, then it wasn't a very good pick.
To me defense is worth double.....if you prevent 6 points from being scored by blocking 3 shots, it's the same as allowing those points and scoring 12.
I wouldn't count on him getting much better at the free throw line.
That is as basic as it gets and takes up a nice chunk of practice...especially at the close of practice.
I also don't like the words used concerning his ability to shoot in general.
Bottom line is the guy is a rebound machine. If he can grab 6-8 O rebounds and another 8-10 on the defensive end, we can live with his shooting.
If he doesn't dominate the boards on a regular basis and play solid D, then it wasn't a very good pick.
To me defense is worth double.....if you prevent 6 points from being scored by blocking 3 shots, it's the same as allowing those points and scoring 12.
Even if he can get his freethrow percentage up to 65-70% I will take it. The dude is being compared to a Dennis Rodman type beast. I also think that he will play some three this year with JJ on the floor at the same time.
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I have to trust our scouting.
Rodman.......who's going to complain with that???
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howard stern, carmen electra, dr. drew, donald trump.............yeah great rebounder and a giant ass off the court.
as long as he wins who gives a damn what he does off the court, excluding legal trouble
"The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things " - mike huckabee -
as long as he wins who gives a damn what he does off the court, excluding legal trouble
Why do you even care about the legal trouble?
I mean, Greg Little has 93 parking tickets. Who cares about his legal troubles?
Or, do you think that Little is what Bill Parcells calls a "May Day in Moscow" player?
So many red flags.
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as long as he wins who gives a damn what he does off the court, excluding legal trouble
all i know is i don't want my starting power forward wearing drag out at the clubs at three in the morning. guess it's just me, though. forgot how everyone is soooo gay now along with being a bunch of politically correct pussies..
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as long as he wins who gives a damn what he does off the court, excluding legal trouble
Why do you even care about the legal trouble?
I mean, Greg Little has 93 parking tickets. Who cares about his legal troubles?
Or, do you think that Little is what Bill Parcells calls a "May Day in Moscow" player?
So many red flags.
Why do you even care about the legal trouble?
I mean, Greg Little has 93 parking tickets. Who cares about his legal troubles?
Or, do you think that Little is what Bill Parcells calls a "May Day in Moscow" player?
So many red flags.
I meant more in terms of drugs/alchohol/violence. I could care less about unpayed parking tickets. Isn't Cribbs trying to prove that they are fraudulent anyways?
all i know is i don't want my starting power forward wearing drag out at the clubs at three in the morning. guess it's just me, though. forgot how everyone is soooo gay now along with being a bunch of politically correct pussies..
No. I don't care about being politically correct. I'm just saying if Cleveland winning a championship came at the price of one of our players wearing drag at a club I would take it in a second. Sure it is embarrassing, but WINNING is the most important thing in my opinion. Or we could just keep on losing while saying, "Hey its ok! Our players are COOL!"
"The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things " - mike huckabee
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