Browns Will Be A Major Disappointment This Year
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Trades suck? That's based on perspective. Since 99, overall, yup. Since Heckert got here? Sheldon Brown, Chris Gocong, Peyton Hillis have been very good for the team.
I am sick of the losing...and the regime changes. I think that Holmgren and Heckert make for a nice tandem...though I also admit that it's still too early to tell.
I was not big on Colt McCoy...but I'm warming to him. I LOVE the Browns trade down with Atlanta. Julio Jones is a WR who has the tools but struggles with inconsistent hands. I had my fill of Edwards...so no thanx.
I'm hoping that H&H can change this culture we have here. I like (but don't love) most of their moves so far. (Still not sold on Brandon Jackson).
Trades suck? That's based on perspective. Since 99, overall, yup. Since Heckert got here? Sheldon Brown, Chris Gocong, Peyton Hillis have been very good for the team.
I am sick of the losing...and the regime changes. I think that Holmgren and Heckert make for a nice tandem...though I also admit that it's still too early to tell.
I was not big on Colt McCoy...but I'm warming to him. I LOVE the Browns trade down with Atlanta. Julio Jones is a WR who has the tools but struggles with inconsistent hands. I had my fill of Edwards...so no thanx.
I'm hoping that H&H can change this culture we have here. I like (but don't love) most of their moves so far. (Still not sold on Brandon Jackson).
Peyton Hillis maybe the best trade in the league of all last year the RARE occurence but Brown and Gocong who cares, but yes overall have sucked, I DO NOT WANT A REGIME CHANGE at all i really do believe the browns will be fine, i hated the trade down with atlanta i really thought a A.J green or Julio Jones move would've been the right choice in the long Haul playmakers just don't fall into your lap on a daily basis and i thought it was a mistake when he was there not to make that move.
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Some browns fans like myself are no longer happy accepting losing seasons all the time, some people who are crying troll all the time are the only ones posting consistently negative cussing trolling threads and god forbid if you reply to any of them without hurting their feelings but with that said, the Cleveland Browns need to do a lot of things differently starting even with marketing us as building a contender.
Be honest our marketing sucks (we're rebuilding, not there yet, can't afford it, and so on) and our merchandise kinda sucks 2, trades have sucked,
Free agency is null, and i don't like that users here think our front office is very active and making moves and saying all the right things right now, can anyone tell me what they said that gets you excited? oh we're building through the DRAFT! well no shit every team is doing that so what is improving our chances over them to hit harder? oh nothing
Just saying i hate the shit they are spewing in the press conferences, you may not like what i say or how i come off as saying it but xxxx it need some hardnose direct line of questioning of why the xxxx we aren't doing really anything.
oh we're building through the DRAFT! well no shit every team is doing that so what is improving our chances over them to hit harder? oh nothing
first of all not every team is doing that, second, what do we have that is improving our chances? A GM that has an above average- great ability to evaluate talent. Something this franchise hasn't had since we've been back
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oh we're building through the DRAFT! well no shit every team is doing that so what is improving our chances over them to hit harder? oh nothing
first of all not every team is doing that, second, what do we have that is improving our chances? A GM that has an above average- great ability to evaluate talent. Something this franchise hasn't had since we've been back
first of all not every team is doing that, second, what do we have that is improving our chances? A GM that has an above average- great ability to evaluate talent. Something this franchise hasn't had since we've been back
Evaluting talent is fine the ability to bring that talent to Cleveland is still on the jury bro don't give him to much credit yet.
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first of all not every team is doing that, second, what do we have that is improving our chances? A GM that has an above average- great ability to evaluate talent. Something this franchise hasn't had since we've been back
Evaluting talent is fine the ability to bring that talent to Cleveland is still on the jury bro don't give him to much credit yet.
Evaluting talent is fine the ability to bring that talent to Cleveland is still on the jury bro don't give him to much credit yet.
Haden, ward, McCoy (we'll see this year how much talent is really there), gocong, brown, Hillis.... And that was his first year on the job. Another 6 this year and he'll have taken half of our starting roster and turned them from players that couldn't start on anybody but the bungles into legitimate NFL starters. Dude is a serious general manager, an by far the best thing that's happened to this franchise in a long.... Long........ LONG time
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I say the Browns go 8-8 or 9-7.
I seriously have the Browns at 11-5 regardless of every hater post i put up, anything less then 11-5 will be a disappointment with the schedule so far into our favor.
Bengals 4-12
Colts 10-6
Dolphins 7-9
Titans 6-10
Raiders 8-8
Seahawks 7-9
49'ers 6-10
Texans 6-10
Rams 7-9
Jaguars 8-8
Bengals 4-12
Ravens 12-4
Steelers 12-4
Cardinals 5-11
Ravens 12-4
Steelers 12-4
Other then the Raven steelers all month of December lol we should have some shots to have a great record this year anything less than 11-5 is a failure.
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I didnt read anymore than 3 posts in this thread. All I have to say for those nay-sayers out there is this: this is why they play the game. To see how good everyone is. Just wait tuntil the season starts before you say anything. Jees, the lockout just ended and some people on this board have us pcking first overall.
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I just don't see this team doing good this year, and failing horribly. We have a new head coach, new defense and new coaching staff. This year is set up for failure. I don't see how McCoy can be decent with the lack of a number one receiver, and plus the defense will be shaky at best and Hillis will suffer a downyear this year. I'm calling here, 3-13.
I just don't see this team doing good this year, and failing horribly. We have a new head coach, new defense and new coaching staff. This year is set up for failure. I don't see how McCoy can be decent with the lack of a number one receiver, and plus the defense will be shaky at best and Hillis will suffer a downyear this year. I'm calling here, 3-13.
They haven't played and down yet and you have already written off the whole season. Why don't you just stay home and do some basket weaving or pick up litter. Either you are a Browns fan and with us or a puss who is against us. Man-up and support your team through thick and thin and quit whining.
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I just don't see this team doing good this year, and failing horribly. We have a new head coach, new defense and new coaching staff. This year is set up for failure. I don't see how McCoy can be decent with the lack of a number one receiver, and plus the defense will be shaky at best and Hillis will suffer a downyear this year. I'm calling here, 3-13.
I just don't see this team doing good this year, and failing horribly. We have a new head coach, new defense and new coaching staff. This year is set up for failure. I don't see how McCoy can be decent with the lack of a number one receiver, and plus the defense will be shaky at best and Hillis will suffer a downyear this year. I'm calling here, 3-13.
I think 3 and 13 is a litle extreme.....4/5 wins at worst...6/7 wins best...
Won't beat Colts/Steelers/Ravens(both games)Jags/Rams/Texans/Niners
Split with Titans/Raiders & Bengals
Should beat Dolphins/Cards/Seahawks/Bengals(one time) & throw in a Raider or Titan win...(just one) and there you have it.....6 wins.....Very exciting!!
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I just don't see this team doing good this year, and failing horribly. We have a new head coach, new defense and new coaching staff. This year is set up for failure. I don't see how McCoy can be decent with the lack of a number one receiver, and plus the defense will be shaky at best and Hillis will suffer a downyear this year. I'm calling here, 3-13.
I think 3 and 13 is a litle extreme.....4/5 wins at worst...6/7 wins best...
Won't beat Colts/Steelers/Ravens(both games)Jags/Rams/Texans/Niners
Split with Titans/Raiders & Bengals
Should beat Dolphins/Cards/Seahawks/Bengals(one time) & throw in a Raider or Titan win...(just one) and there you have it.....6 wins.....Very exciting!!
I think 3 and 13 is a litle extreme.....4/5 wins at worst...6/7 wins best...
Won't beat Colts/Steelers/Ravens(both games)Jags/Rams/Texans/Niners
Split with Titans/Raiders & Bengals
Should beat Dolphins/Cards/Seahawks/Bengals(one time) & throw in a Raider or Titan win...(just one) and there you have it.....6 wins.....Very exciting!!
No one missed you during the off season.
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I think 3 and 13 is a litle extreme.....4/5 wins at worst...6/7 wins best...
Won't beat Colts/Steelers/Ravens(both games)Jags/Rams/Texans/Niners
Split with Titans/Raiders & Bengals
Should beat Dolphins/Cards/Seahawks/Bengals(one time) & throw in a Raider or Titan win...(just one) and there you have it.....6 wins.....Very exciting!!
No one missed you during the off season.
No one missed you during the off season.
Ahh C'cmon...you had to miss me a litle bit.
Glad to be back and sharing my football insight!
You just know there's more to come!!!
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With the lack of improvements and the early injury bug, I am on board the Andrew Luck Hype train. I really can't name a team that I could say for sure is worse than us. Maybe the Bills, maybe.
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I'm on board with all the naysayers, losing the Superbowl is going to be a huge disappointment. But there's always positives to take out of a season, one being atleast we made it their.
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