Taylor Mays On Trade Block
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So you'd rather make a big splash by signing some washed up free agent with nothing left to prove?
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I've always thought that guy was pretty good. I know we won't get him, but he is young and just a second year player which could entice Holmgren and Heckert. I think that'd be a nasty group of safeties with Mays and Ward. Put Young and Haden at CB. I think we'd be set.
There's no doubt they're asking for a first, which we have two of.
Ward and Mays are like the dream team for young safeties. That would be ridiculous. I'm not normally for big trades nor do I condone getting rid of draft picks, but I'd throw in everything but the kitchen sink for Mays.
The problem is we already signed Young. I can all but guarantee Mays will not be a Brown.
EDIT: I swear to God, if Mays ends up in New England or playing for Gang Green, I'll shit a whole pile of bricks.
Same if he lands in the Pitts.
There's no doubt they're asking for a first, which we have two of.
Ward and Mays are like the dream team for young safeties. That would be ridiculous. I'm not normally for big trades nor do I condone getting rid of draft picks, but I'd throw in everything but the kitchen sink for Mays.
The problem is we already signed Young. I can all but guarantee Mays will not be a Brown.
EDIT: I swear to God, if Mays ends up in New England or playing for Gang Green, I'll shit a whole pile of bricks.
Same if he lands in the Pitts.
lol. What? Taylor Mays hasn't been that good in SF. Why else do you think the guy is on the block. A Ward/Mays tandem also wouldn't be a safety dream team. What land of delusions do you reside? It would be a waste to go hard at Taylor Mays. Giving up a first or in your case two firsts would be highway robbery.
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Taylor Mays is terrible im glad we took Ward over him,theres no wonder San Fran is trying to trade him he cant cover for shit.
The highest id even consider would be a 4th and people are talking about a 1st are you serious??? He couldnt even crack the lineup for the Niners and you name there starting safteys.
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There's no doubt they're asking for a first, which we have two of.
Ward and Mays are like the dream team for young safeties. That would be ridiculous. I'm not normally for big trades nor do I condone getting rid of draft picks, but I'd throw in everything but the kitchen sink for Mays.
The problem is we already signed Young. I can all but guarantee Mays will not be a Brown.
EDIT: I swear to God, if Mays ends up in New England or playing for Gang Green, I'll shit a whole pile of bricks.
Same if he lands in the Pitts.
lol. What? Taylor Mays hasn't been that good in SF. Why else do you think the guy is on the block. A Ward/Mays tandem also wouldn't be a safety dream team. What land of delusions do you reside? It would be a waste to go hard at Taylor Mays. Giving up a first or in your case two firsts would be highway robbery.
Homotron said:
lol. What? Taylor Mays hasn't been that good in SF. Why else do you think the guy is on the block. A Ward/Mays tandem also wouldn't be a safety dream team. What land of delusions do you reside? It would be a waste to go hard at Taylor Mays. Giving up a first or in your case two firsts would be highway robbery.
I never said we give up two firsts. I said we have two firsts, therefore giving up a first rounder wouldn't leave us overly xxxxed.
C'mon Homo, you're better than that.
I live in the land where Taylor Mays is 6'3, 220 lbs, and runs a sub 4.4 40. In some cases, a sub 4.3. He's got raw athletic talent, and with the right coaching can be a freak.
He's got Adrian Wilson size, Ed Reed speed and he hits like Sean Taylor.
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Homotron said:
lol. What? Taylor Mays hasn't been that good in SF. Why else do you think the guy is on the block. A Ward/Mays tandem also wouldn't be a safety dream team. What land of delusions do you reside? It would be a waste to go hard at Taylor Mays. Giving up a first or in your case two firsts would be highway robbery.
I never said we give up two firsts. I said we have two firsts, therefore giving up a first rounder wouldn't leave us overly xxxxed.
C'mon Homo, you're better than that.
I live in the land where Taylor Mays is 6'3, 220 lbs, and runs a sub 4.4 40. In some cases, a sub 4.3. He's got raw athletic talent, and with the right coaching can be a freak.
He's got Adrian Wilson size, Ed Reed speed and he hits like Sean Taylor.
He's got Adrian Wilson size, Ed Reed speed and he hits like Sean Taylor.
Problem is he cant cover worth a damn, he may be a physical freak but if you cant cover he might wanna consider moving to Linebacker..He couldnt make an impact in SF and they now have two new safteys, that really says something.
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Again I watched him his whole rookie year and he was horrible. If you want a guy who is fast and won't be around the ball then he's ur guy...
if football was all about being fast and combines the raiders would win every year...
That's it trade him to oakland, there just dumb enough to take him
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Taylor Mays is terrible im glad we took Ward over him,theres no wonder San Fran is trying to trade him he cant cover for shit.
The highest id even consider would be a 4th and people are talking about a 1st are you serious??? He couldnt even crack the lineup for the Niners and you name there starting safteys.
Taylor Mays is terrible im glad we took Ward over him,theres no wonder San Fran is trying to trade him he cant cover for shit.
The highest id even consider would be a 4th and people are talking about a 1st are you serious??? He couldnt even crack the lineup for the Niners and you name there starting safteys.
He did crack the lineup for the 9ers, he started 6 games at safety. He replaced Michael Lewis, a former second round pick. He was opposite Dashon Goldson, who could be a pretty decent safety.
I did all that without looking anything up. So, yes...I can name their starting safeties.
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He's got Adrian Wilson size, Ed Reed speed and he hits like Sean Taylor.
Problem is he cant cover worth a damn, he may be a physical freak but if you cant cover he might wanna consider moving to Linebacker..He couldnt make an impact in SF and they now have two new safteys, that really says something.
Probaly is he cant cover worth a damn, he may be a physical freak but if you cant cover he might wanna consider moving to Linebacker..He couldnt make an impact in SF and they now have two new safteys, that really says something.
The reason he's on the block isn't because his lack of coverage abilities. It's because San Fran never wanted to get him in the first place. He was a Singletary pick, through and through. Now Singletary is gone, and Mays isn't wanted.
A rookie got one year to make an impact and is now on the trading block.
So, by that reasoning, we should trade Hardesty, because he is a physical freak who can't stay healthy ever. Same for Shaun Lauvao.
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49ers SS Taylor Mays lost his starting job after just five games during the season because he struggled in pass coverage.
This was the book on Mays coming out of USC. Matt Maiocco of CSN Bay Area suggests that, "It might be that it's asking too much of him, at his size, to change direction and hang in coverage against NFL receivers." According to Pro Football Focus, opponents completed a whopping 81.3 percent of their passes and averaged 20.2 yards on completions into Mays' coverage. He created just one turnover (a Week 5 forced fumble) in 16 games.
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49ers SS Taylor Mays lost his starting job after just five games during the season because he struggled in pass coverage.
This was the book on Mays coming out of USC. Matt Maiocco of CSN Bay Area suggests that, "It might be that it's asking too much of him, at his size, to change direction and hang in coverage against NFL receivers." According to Pro Football Focus, opponents completed a whopping 81.3 percent of their passes and averaged 20.2 yards on completions into Mays' coverage. He created just one turnover (a Week 5 forced fumble) in 16 games.
49ers SS Taylor Mays lost his starting job after just five games during the season because he struggled in pass coverage.
This was the book on Mays coming out of USC. Matt Maiocco of CSN Bay Area suggests that, "It might be that it's asking too much of him, at his size, to change direction and hang in coverage against NFL receivers." According to Pro Football Focus, opponents completed a whopping 81.3 percent of their passes and averaged 20.2 yards on completions into Mays' coverage. He created just one turnover (a Week 5 forced fumble) in 16 games.
I understand his coverage skills leave something to be desired. He had a hard time covering NFL receivers as a rookie. As. A. Rookie.
But, once again, not the reason he's being traded. A contributing factor? Maybe. But by all accounts it's because of the firing of Singletary.
Not many teams look to trade a rookie simply because of a bad rookie season. Especially not ones drafted in the first two rounds.
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Taylor Mays is terrible im glad we took Ward over him,theres no wonder San Fran is trying to trade him he cant cover for shit.
The highest id even consider would be a 4th and people are talking about a 1st are you serious??? He couldnt even crack the lineup for the Niners and you name there starting safteys.
Taylor Mays is terrible im glad we took Ward over him,theres no wonder San Fran is trying to trade him he cant cover for shit.
The highest id even consider would be a 4th and people are talking about a 1st are you serious??? He couldnt even crack the lineup for the Niners and you name there starting safteys.
I wasn't aware it was the safety's job to cover.
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I would MAYBE take a flyer on this guy for a 6th or 7th round pick, but Timmy what everyone is saying is just right. The same problems that made him fall in the draft became apparent last year. I do completely agree he deserves more than one season to get it together, as does any player. But it should concern you the same problems he had all through college just got worse in the NFL last year. He hasn't shown me at all that he's going to figure it out. If they thought he was worth it, they'd keep him.
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He sucks, I don't want him if we have to give up more than a 5th. Fact is there is a reason this guy fell last year in the draft and there is a reason that he is being traded now. It doesn't matter if he was a pick by the last coach, if he had any kind of ability they wouldn't be trying to trade him!
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49ers SS Taylor Mays lost his starting job after just five games during the season because he struggled in pass coverage.
This was the book on Mays coming out of USC. Matt Maiocco of CSN Bay Area suggests that, "It might be that it's asking too much of him, at his size, to change direction and hang in coverage against NFL receivers." According to Pro Football Focus, opponents completed a whopping 81.3 percent of their passes and averaged 20.2 yards on completions into Mays' coverage. He created just one turnover (a Week 5 forced fumble) in 16 games.
I understand his coverage skills leave something to be desired. He had a hard time covering NFL receivers as a rookie. As. A. Rookie.
But, once again, not the reason he's being traded. A contributing factor? Maybe. But by all accounts it's because of the firing of Singletary.
Not many teams look to trade a rookie simply because of a bad rookie season. Especially not ones drafted in the first two rounds.
I understand his coverage skills leave something to be desired. He had a hard time covering NFL receivers as a rookie. As. A. Rookie.
But, once again, not the reason he's being traded. A contributing factor? Maybe. But by all accounts it's because of the firing of Singletary.
Not many teams look to trade a rookie simply because of a bad rookie season. Especially not ones drafted in the first two rounds.
Whoa- if the guy was a playah, it wouldn't matter who drafted him. We're unloading this stud saftey because our ex-coach drafted him? Unlikley. It's damn near unheard of to unload a guy drafted that high after one year. He has to suck about as bad as David Veikune.
Physical freaks don't necessarily do well in the NFL. If track speed was all that mattered for a WR, Reynaldo Nehemiah would be in the HOF.
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49ers SS Taylor Mays lost his starting job after just five games during the season because he struggled in pass coverage.
This was the book on Mays coming out of USC. Matt Maiocco of CSN Bay Area suggests that, "It might be that it's asking too much of him, at his size, to change direction and hang in coverage against NFL receivers." According to Pro Football Focus, opponents completed a whopping 81.3 percent of their passes and averaged 20.2 yards on completions into Mays' coverage. He created just one turnover (a Week 5 forced fumble) in 16 games.
I understand his coverage skills leave something to be desired. He had a hard time covering NFL receivers as a rookie. As. A. Rookie.
But, once again, not the reason he's being traded. A contributing factor? Maybe. But by all accounts it's because of the firing of Singletary.
Not many teams look to trade a rookie simply because of a bad rookie season. Especially not ones drafted in the first two rounds.
I understand his coverage skills leave something to be desired. He had a hard time covering NFL receivers as a rookie. As. A. Rookie.
But, once again, not the reason he's being traded. A contributing factor? Maybe. But by all accounts it's because of the firing of Singletary.
Not many teams look to trade a rookie simply because of a bad rookie season. Especially not ones drafted in the first two rounds.
He couldn't cover worth a shit in college either. He was just a head-hunting missle looking to injure guys. Ask Jordan Norwood about the head to head Mays put on him in the Rose Bowl. He was out of it big time. Left the game and then came back in a couple plays later and caught a TD. Norwood is one tough MF in spite of his size. Really pulling for the kid to make the team this year....
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Unless you need a little fast lb, lol, forget it. He was overhyped. I believe the old Browns, since they came back, often drafted
based on physical attributes. That doesn't mean all the intangibles can make the jump to the NFL.
It's dumb - he lost his starting job to this guy, for cryin out loud.
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Post-Draft Outlook: COULD SURPRISE: Safety Taylor Mays -- In watching film of him at USC, the 49ers noticed he typically played 20 yards off the line of scrimmage. The 49ers plan to play him in the box in run support.
A closer look at the 49ers' picks: Round 2/49 -- Taylor Mays, S, 6-3, 230, USC: He's a physically gifted player who toppled out of the first round because teams did not see him make many plays on film. In four seasons as a college starter, Mays recorded just five interceptions, with four of those coming in his first two years. - by The Sports Xchange
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08/04/11 - S Taylor Mays is available in a trade, with the 49ers alerting the 31 other teams via email, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. The 49ers signed Madieu Williams and still hope to re-sign Dashon Goldson. New coach John Harbaugh, who was hired away from Stanford, is very familiar with the former USC product.
03/13/11 - S Taylor Mays became a starter early in the season but was pulled after being victimized in pass coverage. Mays' change-of-direction and ball skills are dubious and he will be a challenge for the incoming coaching staff.
12/28/10 - S Taylor Mays will see extra playing time this week after being demoted midway through the season. Mays started the team's Week 4 game against Atlanta, but he struggled in deep coverage in subsequent weeks and eventually was replaced by Reggie Smith in the starting lineup.
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I say at least make an offer. I think playing alongside Ward, Mays could be a good addition. Ward's ability clearly would help him. Now, I don't think anyone will offer a 1st. And I don't think the Niners will even get a 2nd out of him. I think a 3rd is what they will have to accept...at best maybe a 3rd and a 6th. I think he'd be worth that much. Young could move to CB and we'd have one hell of a secondary!
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I say at least make an offer. I think playing alongside Ward, Mays could be a good addition. Ward's ability clearly would help him. Now, I don't think anyone will offer a 1st. And I don't think the Niners will even get a 2nd out of him. I think a 3rd is what they will have to accept...at best maybe a 3rd and a 6th. I think he'd be worth that much. Young could move to CB and we'd have one hell of a secondary!
I say at least make an offer. I think playing alongside Ward, Mays could be a good addition. Ward's ability clearly would help him. Now, I don't think anyone will offer a 1st. And I don't think the Niners will even get a 2nd out of him. I think a 3rd is what they will have to accept...at best maybe a 3rd and a 6th. I think he'd be worth that much. Young could move to CB and we'd have one hell of a secondary!
NO WAY! A 3rd and a 6th to play next to Ward? That would be a downgrade, I wouldnt give more than a 5th. Neither Ward nor Mays are very good in coverage. They play the same position, STRONG Safety. Neither are a good fit for Free Safety, esp considering Mays' biggest criticism is taking bad angles, bad in coverage, and not known for making big plays (yes he hits hard, but doesnt get interceptions which FS's are supposed to do). Ward and Mays would not make a good safety tandem, a lot of you all are delusional.
And the comment at the top of the page "since when is it the safety's job to cover"... UMM ALWAYS!?! they are the last line of defense, they give help to the corners when they are burned or cover in zone.. a lot of times Ward (or the SS) will come up and provide run support, but their main task is to cover, esp the FS..
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