Camp Concerns?
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sorry i probably posted my last couple of things getting this thread mixed up with the FA thread.
love to hear all the positive looks from fans that attend camp. gives me hope and makes me proud that our fellow fans are there giving us the updates.
there is nothing more i would love to see than to have each and every one of H and H's picks turn out to be all-pros. my concern is injuries, rookie unawareness and no veteran leadership on any side of the ball. of course joe thomas is going to make any DE look bad, especially a rookie on the other side of the ball on his own team. does that make us feel good or bad? what about the next DE down the ladder from shear or benard......????? so we're 2 deep at DE and what 2 deep at DT (plug)?
love joe haden and tj ward! love mccoy! hillis (i'm sorry guys) is running with a bullseye on his back and won't produce 1/2 of last year stats.
just saying, another evaluation year?
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sorry i probably posted my last couple of things getting this thread mixed up with the FA thread.
love to hear all the positive looks from fans that attend camp. gives me hope and makes me proud that our fellow fans are there giving us the updates.
there is nothing more i would love to see than to have each and every one of H and H's picks turn out to be all-pros. my concern is injuries, rookie unawareness and no veteran leadership on any side of the ball. of course joe thomas is going to make any DE look bad, especially a rookie on the other side of the ball on his own team. does that make us feel good or bad? what about the next DE down the ladder from shear or benard......????? so we're 2 deep at DE and what 2 deep at DT (plug)?
love joe haden and tj ward! love mccoy! hillis (i'm sorry guys) is running with a bullseye on his back and won't produce 1/2 of last year stats.
just saying, another evaluation year?
sorry i probably posted my last couple of things getting this thread mixed up with the FA thread.
love to hear all the positive looks from fans that attend camp. gives me hope and makes me proud that our fellow fans are there giving us the updates.
there is nothing more i would love to see than to have each and every one of H and H's picks turn out to be all-pros. my concern is injuries, rookie unawareness and no veteran leadership on any side of the ball. of course joe thomas is going to make any DE look bad, especially a rookie on the other side of the ball on his own team. does that make us feel good or bad? what about the next DE down the ladder from shear or benard......????? so we're 2 deep at DE and what 2 deep at DT (plug)?
love joe haden and tj ward! love mccoy! hillis (i'm sorry guys) is running with a bullseye on his back and won't produce 1/2 of last year stats.
just saying, another evaluation year?
Hillis won't get 600 yards this year? You're nuts, unless you're counting on the Madden Curse to strike. Barring injury- I see another 1,000 yard season- count on it.
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Hillis had a bullseye on his back last year, but he still got 1200 yards.
I think he'll get 1500 this year since it's Colt's offense full-time, Colt has Little to throw to, and the offense is managed by a guy who has a clue.
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Hillis had a bullseye on his back last year, but he still got 1200 yards.
I think he'll get 1500 this year since it's Colt's offense full-time, Colt has Little to throw to, and the offense is managed by a guy who has a clue.
Hillis had a bullseye on his back last year, but he still got 1200 yards.
I think he'll get 1500 this year since it's Colt's offense full-time, Colt has Little to throw to, and the offense is managed by a guy who has a clue.
I doubt he'll get 1500 simply due to everyone keying on him. I just hope he can stay healthy and get at least 1000. 1500 would be nice, but it's a huge undertaking.
From what's been said, Little is struggling catching the ball. I even read an article where it said he looked like a 4th WR.
We really should have tried to get a Vet WR in to help mentor the younger guys.
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Hillis had a bullseye on his back last year, but he still got 1200 yards.
I think he'll get 1500 this year since it's Colt's offense full-time, Colt has Little to throw to, and the offense is managed by a guy who has a clue.
I doubt he'll get 1500 simply due to everyone keying on him. I just hope he can stay healthy and get at least 1000. 1500 would be nice, but it's a huge undertaking.
From what's been said, Little is struggling catching the ball. I even read an article where it said he looked like a 4th WR.
We really should have tried to get a Vet WR in to help mentor the younger guys.
I doubt he'll get 1500 simply due to everyone keying on him. I just hope he can stay healthy and get at least 1000. 1500 would be nice, but it's a huge undertaking.
From what's been said, Little is struggling catching the ball. I even read an article where it said he looked like a 4th WR.
We really should have tried to get a Vet WR in to help mentor the younger guys.
I've heard that he has had amazing days and poor days on about an equal ammount. Plus most of the time I heard that he is dropping the ball in traffic and tight corners. I'm not worried, he is a rookie after all, and he has shown great potential in camp.
Take it for what you will too but I read the camp report on profootballathority yesterday and he said Robiskie looked good to him. Said that he didn't understand why people said the guy couldn't get separation because he saw him getting away from both Haden and Young several times during plays.
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Hillis had a bullseye on his back last year, but he still got 1200 yards.
I think he'll get 1500 this year since it's Colt's offense full-time, Colt has Little to throw to, and the offense is managed by a guy who has a clue.
I doubt he'll get 1500 simply due to everyone keying on him. I just hope he can stay healthy and get at least 1000. 1500 would be nice, but it's a huge undertaking.
From what's been said, Little is struggling catching the ball. I even read an article where it said he looked like a 4th WR.
We really should have tried to get a Vet WR in to help mentor the younger guys.
I doubt he'll get 1500 simply due to everyone keying on him. I just hope he can stay healthy and get at least 1000. 1500 would be nice, but it's a huge undertaking.
From what's been said, Little is struggling catching the ball. I even read an article where it said he looked like a 4th WR.
We really should have tried to get a Vet WR in to help mentor the younger guys.
From what's also been said, he had an impressive family day and has been doing some magnificent things in open field. I even read an article where it said he has looked like a 1 WR.
This negativity is ridiculous. The guy hasn't played football in a year, of course he's rusty.
If we had gone for a vet, that would have been one less spot for a young guy already on our roster to develop.
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How did Sheard do? hbrowntown
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The one time I saw Sheard, he was into the backfield very quickly.
The rest of the time, I couldn't see the guy, didn't hear anybody else talk about him.
My dumb hunch is, he is from a different defense in college, and is still learning.
Going against Joe Thomas, LOL, - JT is outstanding. Put Sheard on the right side against
Pashos (Sheard was always on the left side, away from us, from what I could tell.
I kept coming up with names of rookies that probably will not have a chance to make the team.
In lb drills, a bunch of them are very quick and agile. Maeava sp dammit......seemed to have
at least as quick feet and balance in the drills as any lb.
I did see this, btw: Hillis was talking to a coach or trainer on the sideline, and was referring to
an area on him - lower ab or high groin muscle area. He was fine though, and jogged across the field.
Here's an interesting note: On 7 on 7 drills, there were so many Browns -players- watching up close, that
it was hard to see past them. This is cool, this is a TEAM and they are excited.
Outside of Haden and Ward, the biggest impression on me, was Phil.Taylor. I predict come regular season,
this guy is unstoppable. Rubin was quoted as being amazed by him, too. He's biggest than Rubin they say,
but I'll tell you - the two of them will scare the crap out of opposing offenses.
My impression of Little - is that he has elite skills, and should have been a high first round draft pick, and would have
had he been playing all along,
But the mental makeup and intelligence and character of this entire group of Browns players is awesome. I have not
seen comradrie like this, ever before
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My concerns?....
1) Due to the lock out, too short a camp.
2) Some blind fans. Too many looking BACK rather than AHEAD.
3) Tony Grossi, aka "Debbie Downer". A half empty glass would look full to him. He has a way of accentuating the negative like no one else. Dieken needs to spike his water!!
We are inputting NEW systems with NEW Coaches & 61 Players from Rookie to 3rd year (55 Rookie to 2nd year) & many of those were either NOT utilized or thrust into a poor system!
This new TEAM of Leaders & Players need & certainly deserve our support. The whole attitude is more energetic & cohesive & the "core" Players certainly are (as a group) younger, more athletic, aggressive, tougher, & more eager to learn than those we have seen in years past. They seem to be truly motivated by these Coaches.
I'm pumped, but patient!! This is NOT the "same old, same old".
Mike
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I doubt he'll get 1500 simply due to everyone keying on him. I just hope he can stay healthy and get at least 1000. 1500 would be nice, but it's a huge undertaking.
From what's been said, Little is struggling catching the ball. I even read an article where it said he looked like a 4th WR.
We really should have tried to get a Vet WR in to help mentor the younger guys.
From what's also been said, he had an impressive family day and has been doing some magnificent things in open field. I even read an article where it said he has looked like a 1 WR.
This negativity is ridiculous. The guy hasn't played football in a year, of course he's rusty.
If we had gone for a vet, that would have been one less spot for a young guy already on our roster to develop.
From what's also been said, he had an impressive family day and has been doing some magnificent things in open field. I even read an article where it said he has looked like a 1 WR.
This negativity is ridiculous. The guy hasn't played football in a year, of course he's rusty.
If we had gone for a vet, that would have been one less spot for a young guy already on our roster to develop.
Hopefully he pans out. He does need some time to get into playing shape after sitting out all year. Cant wait to see what he does in preseason.
I still stand by thinking a vet would have been good for all the young guys. It's always good to get tips and help from a mentor. At all my jobs I learned the most from the old dudes.
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My concerns?....
1) Due to the lock out, too short a camp.
2) Some blind fans. Too many looking BACK rather than AHEAD.
3) Tony Grossi, aka "Debbie Downer". A half empty glass would look full to him. He has a way of accentuating the negative like no one else. Dieken needs to spike his water!!
We are inputting NEW systems with NEW Coaches & 61 Players from Rookie to 3rd year (55 Rookie to 2nd year) & many of those were either NOT utilized or thrust into a poor system!
This new TEAM of Leaders & Players need & certainly deserve our support. The whole attitude is more energetic & cohesive & the "core" Players certainly are (as a group) younger, more athletic, aggressive, tougher, & more eager to learn than those we have seen in years past. They seem to be truly motivated by these Coaches.
I'm pumped, but patient!! This is NOT the "same old, same old".
Mike
This new TEAM of Leaders & Players need & certainly deserve our support. The whole attitude is more energetic & cohesive & the "core" Players certainly are (as a group) younger, more athletic, aggressive, tougher, & more eager to learn than those we have seen in years past. They seem to be truly motivated by these Coaches.
I just dont get it. Mighty strong statement for the 1st week of camp. Apparently we can't form opinions or voice concerns about this team/players until at least the 1st preseason game........unless it gives people wood? I certainly dont entirely disagree with your post, but its obviously very hypocritical.
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What the heyl is "hypocritical" about his post? Did you read it? His posts are very consistent - he's pumped about the Browns.
Apparently, it's wrong to be really positive about the Browns, in the opinions of those egos who are jumping to conclusions
and being extremely negative.
What Canton Mike said was right on the money. Go to a practice and NOTICE how these guys are excited to be there.
Watch the skill level of the guys the Browns drafted.
It's freakin PRACTICE. They aren't going to be catching the ball when they are still starting out practicing. This early, they aren't practicing
learning how to catch a freakin football. They are learning and practicing the offense and defenses, and really ,watching out for each other because
they could be out of position so early in the new system on one side or the other.
McCoy was missing his targets? The practice I went to, he was impressing the crowd with his really excellent throws.
The players are going through the motions, picking more and more up each day. They aren't trying to win games now.
They are learning now. When the rest of us look at what SHOULD be looked at, we're seeing a team of character guys with a ton of talent who
are making subtle very smart moves very early in their camp, who already know a hell of a lot about what they are doing..
IMHO, the negativism is hardly valid so early. Now, you see bad throws, missed passes, bad blocks, no pressure, etc etc etc in the last preseason game and regular
season.... LOL.... then yeah. Raise hell about it. But to wail about that little stuff in the first week? Come on.
Nothing hypocritical there at all. When they get their playbooks down and can depend on each other to be where they are supposed to be,
the speeds of practice will start blazing, and the preseason games will be more and more impressive.
How dumb would it be to say Taylor is a bust because he hasn't hammered the qb in practice? Well, that's just an exaggeration of
some of the negative stuff out here. This early on, look for the things you must be seeing now, and later on, look for what you should be seeing then.
Reverse those, and sure. nobody would be excited. I'm seeing a bunch of players who are teammates and love being on the Browns practice field, and
who love the game. I haven't seen that enough in years since 99.
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What the heyl is "hypocritical" about his post? Did you read it? His posts are very consistent - he's pumped about the Browns.
Apparently, it's wrong to be really positive about the Browns, in the opinions of those egos who are jumping to conclusions
and being extremely negative.
What Canton Mike said was right on the money. Go to a practice and NOTICE how these guys are excited to be there.
Watch the skill level of the guys the Browns drafted.
It's freakin PRACTICE. They aren't going to be catching the ball when they are still starting out practicing. This early, they aren't practicing
learning how to catch a freakin football. They are learning and practicing the offense and defenses, and really ,watching out for each other because
they could be out of position so early in the new system on one side or the other.
McCoy was missing his targets? The practice I went to, he was impressing the crowd with his really excellent throws.
The players are going through the motions, picking more and more up each day. They aren't trying to win games now.
They are learning now. When the rest of us look at what SHOULD be looked at, we're seeing a team of character guys with a ton of talent who
are making subtle very smart moves very early in their camp, who already know a hell of a lot about what they are doing..
IMHO, the negativism is hardly valid so early. Now, you see bad throws, missed passes, bad blocks, no pressure, etc etc etc in the last preseason game and regular
season.... LOL.... then yeah. Raise hell about it. But to wail about that little stuff in the first week? Come on.
Nothing hypocritical there at all. When they get their playbooks down and can depend on each other to be where they are supposed to be,
the speeds of practice will start blazing, and the preseason games will be more and more impressive.
How dumb would it be to say Taylor is a bust because he hasn't hammered the qb in practice? Well, that's just an exaggeration of
some of the negative stuff out here. This early on, look for the things you must be seeing now, and later on, look for what you should be seeing then.
Reverse those, and sure. nobody would be excited. I'm seeing a bunch of players who are teammates and love being on the Browns practice field, and
who love the game. I haven't seen that enough in years since 99.
What the heyl is "hypocritical" about his post? Did you read it? His posts are very consistent - he's pumped about the Browns.
Apparently, it's wrong to be really positive about the Browns, in the opinions of those egos who are jumping to conclusions
and being extremely negative.
What Canton Mike said was right on the money. Go to a practice and NOTICE how these guys are excited to be there.
Watch the skill level of the guys the Browns drafted.
It's freakin PRACTICE. They aren't going to be catching the ball when they are still starting out practicing. This early, they aren't practicing
learning how to catch a freakin football. They are learning and practicing the offense and defenses, and really ,watching out for each other because
they could be out of position so early in the new system on one side or the other.
McCoy was missing his targets? The practice I went to, he was impressing the crowd with his really excellent throws.
The players are going through the motions, picking more and more up each day. They aren't trying to win games now.
They are learning now. When the rest of us look at what SHOULD be looked at, we're seeing a team of character guys with a ton of talent who
are making subtle very smart moves very early in their camp, who already know a hell of a lot about what they are doing..
IMHO, the negativism is hardly valid so early. Now, you see bad throws, missed passes, bad blocks, no pressure, etc etc etc in the last preseason game and regular
season.... LOL.... then yeah. Raise hell about it. But to wail about that little stuff in the first week? Come on.
Nothing hypocritical there at all. When they get their playbooks down and can depend on each other to be where they are supposed to be,
the speeds of practice will start blazing, and the preseason games will be more and more impressive.
How dumb would it be to say Taylor is a bust because he hasn't hammered the qb in practice? Well, that's just an exaggeration of
some of the negative stuff out here. This early on, look for the things you must be seeing now, and later on, look for what you should be seeing then.
Reverse those, and sure. nobody would be excited. I'm seeing a bunch of players who are teammates and love being on the Browns practice field, and
who love the game. I haven't seen that enough in years since 99.
Your right CAL, his post directly is not hypocritical. I should have made that clearer. But if the negative is hardly valid, than so is the positive and we should all not post anything. That would be swell right? I appreciate the negative, positive(yours), and indifferent when they seem credible.
Everyone will be better(I hope) by week 1, but reality says that we should pay attention to the criticism just as much as the optimisms. That is all. Anything else is hypocritical.
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BEREA, Ohio -- Cleveland Browns wide receiver Mohamed Massaquoi has had the cast removed from his left leg and could be practicing soon.
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Massaquoi was in a walking boot Wednesday. He arrived at training camp in a foot-to-knee cast, and the Browns have been reluctant to discuss his injury. Browns coach Pat Shurmur said earlier this week that the third-year wide receiver has a bone injury. Shurmur said it's possible Massaquoi, who caught 36 passes last season, could practice next week.
Also, defensive end Jayme Mitchell was kept out of practice with what Shurmur described as a sore knee.
Running back Montario Hardesty again worked on the side with trainers as he continues his comeback from knee surgery. Hardesty has yet to practice with the Browns this summer.
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I'm pretty much too busy to be depended on to be as active in the leagues....so I figured I'd let them fill up without me this season.
but I think I can swing just one since you mentioned it... Thanks !
(Edit)
I'm in League IV. if League 5 needs me to renew, I guess I can do that too.
Maybe if I'm not available to draft, I can have a friend draft for me.
Might work out better anyways.... LOL
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