Are Fans Starting To Jump Ship?
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How in the hell does McCoy have a noodle arm? He threw several long balls yesterday that were good. You get him a better O-Line and he completes 10 more passes. That game yesterday made me sick, but lets blame the actual guilty parties instead of pinning the lose on the QB who couldn't stand in the pocket for more than a second.
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I think the team needs to be on the same page. This was a very short off season with the lock out. Our left side on the oline is missing steinbach, didn't think it would make that much of an impact until yesterday. Colt needs a lot more time. He was deflecting some sacks, but he needs more time. The run defense was horrible against Benson. Our back field played decent. The only long ball that we weren't all over is the pass ty AJ Green. The only reason Haden wasn't all over that is because, for some damn reason, the d was still in a huddle (pretty pissed about that). IMO, Haden and Ward are still beast! They will be stars and continue to shine! I'm not giving up on this team yet, I think we have the right people in the front office, but they do need to fork up the money for more talent.
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I'll never, ever, give up on the Browns. I'll always root for them and never jump ship.
But with that being said, I will be as harsh a critic as I want after supporting this team. I was sorely disappointed yesterday. We got a glimpse of Same Old Browns with the penalties, a glimmer of what the Browns can be in the 2nd and some 3rd quarter, and finally more of the same old Browns blowing a lead at the end of the game.
It's crushing and hard to look forward to the next game. I'll be getting excited though, once the depression subsides a little.
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Yea, I will personally never jump ship. I honestly couldn't imagine rooting for another team after vesting so damn much into the browns. But as others have said, by around week 11-12 when we inevitably suck I'm not hitting up the bars glued to the TV like I will be the first 5-6 weeks of the season. I'm sure i'd still watch if I got the game, but being an out of town guy I'd much rather sit and home and drink watching a gamecast or crap internet feed then pay double in a bar just to see a losing product. It's only week one though guys, it's hard to be optimistic but i'm not sure what everyone expected. A new HC, rookies at several positions and about a month to get it all together. That doesn't spell out a 12-4 season. It sucks to keep saying this but we have to be patient and let these guys actually have time to play together before we put the paper bags on our heads.
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I think the team needs to be on the same page. This was a very short off season with the lock out. Our left side on the oline is missing steinbach, didn't think it would make that much of an impact until yesterday. Colt needs a lot more time. He was deflecting some sacks, but he needs more time. The run defense was horrible against Benson. Our back field played decent. The only long ball that we weren't all over is the pass ty AJ Green. The only reason Haden wasn't all over that is because, for some damn reason, the d was still in a huddle (pretty pissed about that). IMO, Haden and Ward are still beast! They will be stars and continue to shine! I'm not giving up on this team yet, I think we have the right people in the front office, but they do need to fork up the money for more talent.
I think the team needs to be on the same page. This was a very short off season with the lock out. Our left side on the oline is missing steinbach, didn't think it would make that much of an impact until yesterday. Colt needs a lot more time. He was deflecting some sacks, but he needs more time. The run defense was horrible against Benson. Our back field played decent. The only long ball that we weren't all over is the pass ty AJ Green. The only reason Haden wasn't all over that is because, for some damn reason, the d was still in a huddle (pretty pissed about that). IMO, Haden and Ward are still beast! They will be stars and continue to shine! I'm not giving up on this team yet, I think we have the right people in the front office, but they do need to fork up the money for more talent.
Ward played like shit yesterday. He is the reason Bensen scored on that 39 yard TD run because he was 20 yards out of position and he got burnt all day by that TE. The part of our run defense that sucked were our DE's and OLB, our inside DT's and MLB played a fantastic game. Anything ran from the OT on out was a guaranteed 4 yards or more.
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REAL BROWNS FANS DON'T JUMP SHIP.
That's for other teams' fans who want to go root for whatever team wins a superbowl.
The rest of us will ride the ride, and have fun along the journey, to the superbowl.
Some of you will become a fan of an already winning team.
Exactly like "immediate gratification WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
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I'll never jump ship, but when we suck I'm more likely to just tape the game on the dvr and watch it later minus the commercial breaks.
I was so much looking forward to watching the Browns opener. Found myself thinking at random times all week about the game. I usually take my daughter to all her soccer games and watch her play, but this time told the wife she was on duty.
So by the end of the first quarter I'm swearing at the tv, saying things like "new season, same old Browns". I don't know how you folks who travel to every game keep doing it.
Then worst part was seeing the team make so many mistakes and penalties. Generally, undisciplined teams, are poorly coached teams. Now it is too early to say Shurmer sucks, but that was not a good start. I was not one of the ones who wanted to fire Mangini and start over again, (how many winning organizations fire the coach and GM every few years?) but it is worth noting that under Mangini we were one of the least penalized teams. I wonder what might have been had Mangini been given a guy like Shurmer to install a real offense? Why did Mangini have so many older players on the roster? I think it was the pressure to win right away, not knowing he had a few years to build something.
I wonder if we are under the spell of "in Holmgren we trust". We know how "in Phil we trust" worked out.
I'm not giving up. We are at least assembling some decent young talent on this team, Heckert seems to know what he is doing. But I don't understand why we have a Mike Holmgren in the front office instead of on the sideline coaching the team. That is what he does best.
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Let them jump ship. I could care less honestly. I said this in one of my very first posts almost 3 years ago and it still holds true today. Anyone can root for a team when they are good, but how many stick with them when they are bad? When the Browns finally reach the top, I know that I will drop to my knees and cry because of the emotional roller coaster it will have been. Nothing will be more satisfying though.
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Let them jump ship. I could care less honestly. I said this in one of my very first posts almost 3 years ago and it still holds true today. Anyone can root for a team when they are good, but how many stick with them when they are bad? When the Browns finally reach the top, I know that I will drop to my knees and cry because of the emotional roller coaster it will have been. Nothing will be more satisfying though.
Let them jump ship. I could care less honestly. I said this in one of my very first posts almost 3 years ago and it still holds true today. Anyone can root for a team when they are good, but how many stick with them when they are bad? When the Browns finally reach the top, I know that I will drop to my knees and cry because of the emotional roller coaster it will have been. Nothing will be more satisfying though.
Perfectly stated! I remember how angry I was having to work & miss part of the 1964 Championship game & I am still a loyal Brown's Fan. After all this Team & we Fans have been through, the winning will be that much sweeter. The casual "jump on a winner's bandwagon" fan will NEVER experience the joy we will.
Thank you for a perfect reply.
Mike
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I will never jump ship on the browns, but yesterday when Colt opened up the game with a completed pass to himself, I turned and looked at my dad n said "only the browns could start the year off that way" we must have laughed for 20 mins straight. Fans dont jump ship tho seriously
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Honestly, I was pretty pissed off that we lost. We played a Cinci team that supposedly didn't deserve to field a roster this season. Our OLine was terrible, our defense fell asleep during the most important part of the game. We lost a game we were winning in the 4th quarter. McCoy looked like a typical Browns QB.
The only good thing about our loss is that numerous 'good' teams lost to crappy teams yesterday. If they didn't lose to crappy teams, at least they lost (Pissburgh).
Our OLine was terrible, our defense fell asleep during the most important part of the game.
Just think, you'll probably get your swagger back after playing the colts. Any team in the nfl, and probably most college teams will beat the colts right now. They are horrifically bad. Enjoy your win next week.
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If you don't want to be a fan anymore then don't! That's your decision. I'm sick of crybaby fans anyway. In the NFL (except for tiebrakers) it doesn't matter who beats who. A win is a win, and a loss is a loss. We are 0-1, but so are 5 playoff teams from last year: steelers, colts, chiefs, saints, falcons, and the seahawks. Sure yesterday was awful. But it was just 1 game out of 16. The Browns are a very young team which means we will lose some we shouldn't, but we will also win some we shouldn't. At the end of the year, we will still be somewhere near 8-8 overall, and will get 2 more first round picks to help turn this team into a contender. And if Atlanta keeps playing like they did yesterday, the browns are going to get 2 very good 1st rounders!
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This would be the worst time in that last 30 years to jump ship!
I love to laugh and make fun of the idiots here who predict the same impossible things week in and week out, year in and year out.......and the idiots who buy in to it. But for the first time in a very long time there is the foundation of system in place.
Now would be the worst time to jump ship......just don't expect things to happen overnight.....sit back, look for small things like a coach who has control, players playing for the team rather than themselves, schemes that make the best of the talent on the field while a "style" is being developed, small improvement in key areas, etc
Stop listening to the cheerleaders....stop watching the scoreboard......and stop believing that "it's your turn".......the NFL doesn't give turns. Formerly Sane
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Really solid post of several !
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I have to admit I was surprised at my own reaction of "Oh well... The Browns lose again" especially on opening day...
But I want more then anything to see them be winners. It just has to happen.... I don't believe in a curse or any of that non-sense... Someday...someday... hopefully I will see it happen.
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I remember a certain team in 2007 that lost to a division rival 34-7 and went on to lose two more games after that and they screamed mutiny too. Then that same certain team went on to a 10-6 record and narrowly missed the playoffs. All the screams for mutiny were silenced at least for a season. So all this I'm jumping ship stuff...feel free...we'll see you when we're 10-6 or 11-5. I'm not a clairvoyant so I can't say the same will happen this season as it did in 07 but my point is we have a very fickle fan base especially considering how many times the reset button has been hit. I feel like I'm playing my cousin in Tecmo Bowl sometimes when discussing football with some of you. Things not going so well let's quit or hit the reset button again. Jim Fassel once said "If you want in...get in. If you want out....get out. Kay?"
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I'll never jump ship but I don't go out of my way to watch the games, NFL ticket in bars here in NY, once they are 1-5 or 2-6. I'm on the fence this year about the Browns. I will say I have always liked the Vikings but they are the Browns with Peterson on the roster..
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You know, yinz guys love to piss and moan about the Steeler fanbase being "bandwagon". If you kept your fanbase honest, maybe there wouldn't be as many bandwagoners the Steeler fold.
... just sayin.
Regards...
... an'at
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I remember a certain team in 2007 that lost to a division rival 34-7 and went on to lose two more games after that and they screamed mutiny too. Then that same certain team went on to a 10-6 record and narrowly missed the playoffs. All the screams for mutiny were silenced at least for a season. So all this I'm jumping ship stuff...feel free...we'll see you when we're 10-6 or 11-5. I'm not a clairvoyant so I can't say the same will happen this season as it did in 07 but my point is we have a very fickle fan base especially considering how many times the reset button has been hit. I feel like I'm playing my cousin in Tecmo Bowl sometimes when discussing football with some of you. Things not going so well let's quit or hit the reset button again. Jim Fassel once said "If you want in...get in. If you want out....get out. Kay?"
I remember a certain team in 2007 that lost to a division rival 34-7 and went on to lose two more games after that and they screamed mutiny too. Then that same certain team went on to a 10-6 record and narrowly missed the playoffs. All the screams for mutiny were silenced at least for a season. So all this I'm jumping ship stuff...feel free...we'll see you when we're 10-6 or 11-5. I'm not a clairvoyant so I can't say the same will happen this season as it did in 07 but my point is we have a very fickle fan base especially considering how many times the reset button has been hit. I feel like I'm playing my cousin in Tecmo Bowl sometimes when discussing football with some of you. Things not going so well let's quit or hit the reset button again. Jim Fassel once said "If you want in...get in. If you want out....get out. Kay?"
You're right about the team that lost 34-7 on opening day...the difference is that team lost to the Steelers on opening day, not a team picked to finish near the bottom of the league. However, that 2007 team came back the very next week and beat Cincinatti 51-41 and that was the start of a fun season (until Anderception showed up in Cincy in December). I'm not jumping ship yet, but the Colts looked HORRIFIC yesterday and we should win this game. We lose to them, we may as well start thinking about who we take in the top 5 of next years draft and I'll start debating whether I'm even going to go to the game when I'm in Cleveland in November.
It's not so much that we lost the first one of 16...it's the way it was lost. The first quarter looked like a pee wee football team out there. We were lucky to stil be in the game. Baltimore or Pittsburth (despite how shitty they looked yesterday) would've put up 21 on us in the first quarter and won by 30.
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