Cowher Turns Us Down- Thank God!!!
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For what it's worth, Tony Grossi said in his podcast that he doesn't think Lerner would have fired Savage without a replacement already in line.
I'm betting that the rumors about Pioli wanting the Browns GM job are true.
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Crenel staying on at any position will creater a locker room rift.
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Crenel staying on at any position will creater a locker room rift.
Crenel staying on at any position will creater a locker room rift.
Thats a valid point!
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Baloney on Cowher. His big flappin jaws spit so much, in freezing temps the Steelers' side of the field looked like Siberia in late Winter.
My Browns coaching staff dream team:
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Pioli would be a great move as GM, I still like Russ Grimm as Head Coach, and Josh McDaniels as assistant HC/OC.
Then the Browns should hire Beans as quarterback coach, and Stan as DC, Flugels as oline coach, Zombo as dback coach,
and the rest of the board as their assistants...
Rich can be waterboy.
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For what it's worth, Tony Grossi said in his podcast that he doesn't think Lerner would have fired Savage without a replacement already in line.
I'm betting that the rumors about Pioli wanting the Browns GM job are true.
Aloysius said:
For what it's worth, Tony Grossi said in his podcast that he doesn't think Lerner would have fired Savage without a replacement already in line.I'm betting that the rumors about Pioli wanting the Browns GM job are true.
With lerner stating cowher wasnt his first choice to begin with and seeking permission to set up an interview with pioli leaves me with little doubt pioli is lerners prime target as gm for the better or for another belichick zombie like crennel remains to be seen he couldnt possibly be any worse than savage..
But piolis choice for HC and assistants will tell us that if he chooses to come to cleveland..
And if he doesnt and the tuna refuses we are in lerners less than capable hands of bringing us a unknown genius or the bottom of the nfl barrel i think we know what we get eh?
Each regime has been proven progressively worse so the next regime will be a great one or will leave us as bad off as detroit..time will tell.
Pioli stacks up on paper and mcdaniels is a promising HC prospect if he comes with pioli..but the only guy in NE thats a truly proven winner is billyboy he does everything there he is a walking nfl encyclopedia that makes krafts ownership and the whole front office look awesome so i do have some doubts and concerns about taking anyone from the patriots except billyboy himself...
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I can renew my season tickets now....wasn't gonna do it if they hired Cowher.
Even though I hate Cowher, I have respect for him now, he wanted to remain loyal to the Rooneys. You don't see too much loyalty anymore from players, coaches or management, so I have to admit, turning down $9 million or so to remain loyal is very impressive....something guys like Nick Saban and Rich Rodriguez could learn.
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I can renew my season tickets now....wasn't gonna do it if they hired Cowher.
Even though I hate Cowher, I have respect for him now, he wanted to remain loyal to the Rooneys. You don't see too much loyalty anymore from players, coaches or management, so I have to admit, turning down $9 million or so to remain loyal is very impressive....something guys like Nick Saban and Rich Rodriguez could learn.
I can renew my season tickets now....wasn't gonna do it if they hired Cowher.
Even though I hate Cowher, I have respect for him now, he wanted to remain loyal to the Rooneys. You don't see too much loyalty anymore from players, coaches or management, so I have to admit, turning down $9 million or so to remain loyal is very impressive....something guys like Nick Saban and Rich Rodriguez could learn.
Actually i think cowhers choice really does have more to do with lifestyle and having visions of a ditka style heart attack on the football field then loyalty he really likes being called coach without the anquish of being one...lol

Cowhers a great guy i have always had respect for him though i hated him at the same time...

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Baloney on Cowher. His big flappin jaws spit so much, in freezing temps the Steelers' side of the field looked like Siberia in late Winter.
My Browns coaching staff dream team:
******************************************
Pioli would be a great move as GM, I still like Russ Grimm as Head Coach, and Josh McDaniels as assistant HC/OC.
Then the Browns should hire Beans as quarterback coach, and Stan as DC, Flugels as oline coach, Zombo as dback coach,
and the rest of the board as their assistants...
Rich can be waterboy.
Baloney on Cowher. His big flappin jaws spit so much, in freezing temps the Steelers' side of the field looked like Siberia in late Winter.
My Browns coaching staff dream team:
******************************************
Pioli would be a great move as GM, I still like Russ Grimm as Head Coach, and Josh McDaniels as assistant HC/OC.
Then the Browns should hire Beans as quarterback coach, and Stan as DC, Flugels as oline coach, Zombo as dback coach,
and the rest of the board as their assistants...
Rich can be waterboy.
...and Ghoolie can chase malcontents with a top of the line whipping belt. Braylon, you're first in line!
I was wondering when Grimm's name would be mentioned. Boy, did he ever fall off the map. He was my choice in 2004, but I haven't heard his name since, except for when Whisenhunt dragged him to Arizona.
-Al
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Maybe we can finally put the Cowher thing to rest. Apparently when he says no to Cleveland, we shouldn't think $$ can buy anybody.
Lerner has now asked permission to talk to Pioli. Pioli is already a Vice President in New England and if the owner (who is a friend of Lerner's) says no, then Cleveland may be required to compensate New England for Pioli.
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Rumor has it that Cowher wasn't ready to step up and finally coach a major league franchise. He's scared of a longtime fan base and prefers the newbee's from the mid-70's on.
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We get so wrapped up in hero worship (or the other side of that coin demonization of an individual) that we can't see straight.
We were elated to get Savage and Crennell from winning organizations then we crucified them when they couldn't perform a miracle.
Remember that neither The Crows nor Pats fell apart when these guys left and neither have the Squeelers without Cowher.
WSS
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as the football turns, so does the days of our lives....I just hope we do not end up with another wanna be....and the continual revolving door....
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It didn't. I never wanted Shittsburgh's sloppy seconds.
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Yep - lets start a thread and pretend that the Bill Cowher dissing didnt sting badly!
Personally, never wanted him. I have been saying that since the entire Cowher stuff started. So while a few here and outside of this board will be disappointed, the majority of us are not stung at all.
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I just heard on WKNR that Lerner met with Cowher on Saturday, and he turned the Browns job down. I know I'm in the minority, but I think that's GOOD....he can keep his Steeler legacy with those fans, and we don't have to root for a guy who kicked our butts for 15 years.
I just heard on WKNR that Lerner met with Cowher on Saturday, and he turned the Browns job down. I know I'm in the minority, but I think that's GOOD....he can keep his Steeler legacy with those fans, and we don't have to root for a guy who kicked our butts for 15 years.
The biggest non-surprise of the year. Why, in heaven's name, would Cowher come out or retirement to join an organization like this?
Never in the cards - only in the fan's minds. Those same fans who used to ridicule him while he was in Pittspuke.
He'd have to be crazy to leave his TV gig for the Cleveland position. He now lives in NC and, maybe, would take a position like Carolina - WHEN he is ready to come out of the TV booth.
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Baloney on Cowher. His big flappin jaws spit so much, in freezing temps the Steelers' side of the field looked like Siberia in late Winter.
My Browns coaching staff dream team:
******************************************
Pioli would be a great move as GM, I still like Russ Grimm as Head Coach, and Josh McDaniels as assistant HC/OC.
Then the Browns should hire Beans as quarterback coach, and Stan as DC, Flugels as oline coach, Zombo as dback coach,
and the rest of the board as their assistants...
Rich can be waterboy.
Baloney on Cowher. His big flappin jaws spit so much, in freezing temps the Steelers' side of the field looked like Siberia in late Winter.
My Browns coaching staff dream team:
******************************************
Pioli would be a great move as GM, I still like Russ Grimm as Head Coach, and Josh McDaniels as assistant HC/OC.
Then the Browns should hire Beans as quarterback coach, and Stan as DC, Flugels as oline coach, Zombo as dback coach,
and the rest of the board as their assistants...
Rich can be waterboy.
Thanks Cal, thats is what I am and want to be the waterboy........cause without water you eventually die..........and I been bringing water and hope for so long it is a miracle I kept the thing together this long........never underestimate de WATER BOY..........again tanks Cal.........I am having a boat load of fun and chuckles now listening to the obvious experts here on whom should be the new GM when they these experts nearly universally wanted praised the great Sewage for his masterful job and wanted me to be castrated because of repeatedly saying he needed fired even in year ONE............and until November it was nearly universal by the experts that Sewage really upgraded the team............this is too funny...........I like the almost universal modcium until a few weeks ago..........IN SAVAGE WE TRUST!.........laughing my ass off..........thanks all....except for Ghollie that jamoke was wit me all along...........
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Many of us had doubts, me first, on Cowher's ability to run a football team from A to Z.
I still consider him a good option as HC but I don't rate him good enough to run the Browns.
Many of us had doubts, me first, on Cowher's ability to run a football team from A to Z.
I still consider him a good option as HC but I don't rate him good enough to run the Browns.
Yeah, he would crack under the pressure of trying to keep up with Phil Sewage.
It is going to really be hard to follow in the footsteps of what Lerner has built.
Do you realize that it is going to take 5 wins per year to be considered an improvement? You are right, Cowher is too dumb for that. He doens't know the first thing about mentoring.
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I just heard on WKNR that Lerner met with Cowher on Saturday, and he turned the Browns job down. I know I'm in the minority, but I think that's GOOD....he can keep his Steeler legacy with those fans, and we don't have to root for a guy who kicked our butts for 15 years.
The biggest non-surprise of the year. Why, in heaven's name, would Cowher come out or retirement to join an organization like this?
Never in the cards - only in the fan's minds. Those same fans who used to ridicule him while he was in Pittspuke.
He'd have to be crazy to leave his TV gig for the Cleveland position. He now lives in NC and, maybe, would take a position like Carolina - WHEN he is ready to come out of the TV booth.
The biggest non-surprise of the year. Why, in heaven's name, would Cowher come out or retirement to join an organization like this?
Never in the cards - only in the fan's minds. Those same fans who used to ridicule him while he was in Pittspuke.
He'd have to be crazy to leave his TV gig for the Cleveland position. He now lives in NC and, maybe, would take a position like Carolina - WHEN he is ready to come out of the TV booth.
Words of great Wisdom from Johnny B.
This franchise blows, it really does. Lerner is about to recruit another coffee fetcher. Oh wow, another Bill Belichik bitch.
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