Julio Jones
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You apparently have no concept of value. If Jones was worth it we would have drafted him. I take Taylor and a first rounder over Jones every single time.
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You apparently have no concept of value. If Jones was worth it we would have drafted him. I take Taylor and a first rounder over Jones every single time.
You apparently have no concept of value. If Jones was worth it we would have drafted him. I take Taylor and a first rounder over Jones every single time.
dollar menu at mcdonalds...now thats good value
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You apparently have no concept of value. If Jones was worth it we would have drafted him. I take Taylor and a first rounder over Jones every single time.
dollar menu at mcdonalds...now thats good value
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Browns 1 round draft picks over the years
1999 1 Tim Couch QB Kentucky
2000 1 Courtney Brown DE Penn State
2001 3 Gerard Warren DT Florida
2002 16 William Green RB Boston College [23]
2003 21 Jeff Faine C Notre Dame
2004 6 Kellen Winslow II TE Miami (Florida) [24]
2005 3 Braylon Edwards WR Michigan
2006 13 Kamerion Wimbley LB Florida State [25]
2007 3 Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin [26]
22 Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame [27]
2008 No Pick
2009 21 Alex Mack C California [28]
2010 7 Joe Haden CB Florida
2011 21 Phil Taylor DT Baylor
What sticks out here???????? 2004 & 2005 we drafted a few weapons.....werent we 10-6 shortly after that
Seems odd to me
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And 4-12 a year later what's your point?
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Listen Julio could run a 3.5 and it won't make 2 shits if he has to stand and wait for McCoy's floaters to fall out of the sky.
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i mean you're totally right dude, it probably makes no difference he went to a NFC championship caliber team with a top ten WR opposite to him, a HOF tight end, a pro bowl QB and RB and dominant offensive line. Since the browns have all those things i'm sure he would just be dominating for us.
......point is, it's all about context man. You can't just objectively say because a guy is good for one team he's gonna be good for someone else. And last i checked, phil taylor is lookin pretty damn good.
i mean you're totally right dude, it probably makes no difference he went to a NFC championship caliber team with a top ten WR opposite to him, a HOF tight end, a pro bowl QB and RB and dominant offensive line. Since the browns have all those things i'm sure he would just be dominating for us.
......point is, it's all about context man. You can't just objectively say because a guy is good for one team he's gonna be good for someone else. And last i checked, phil taylor is lookin pretty damn good.
Not to mention the trade that was made. The Browns got a TON of value for that move. A TON, so even in hindsight and with the success of Jones this is still a ridiculous position. Julio Jones alone does not fix the Browns. All those draft picks certainly make larger strides.
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i can understand a 6-10 year or 5-11......i mean thats what the talent on the field is going to get us. So i don't get too mad over these losses like most of you are getting. All i here is Fire Shur or Holm etc etc. Thats just plain stupid. We can't keep bringing in new coaches n new offenses. When we are a threat to score on offense on every possesion then thats when ill be expecting winning years, as of now i cant be let down, cuz theres nothing to expect from this lousy team
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Your just unreal man........Eagles would beat us by 30
Top tier teams have playmakers n lots of them..........its plain n simple
im not trying to hear it from you complacent browns fans who want to keep drafting DT n OL'men..........thats our problem......lets be a threat out there on offense for a change
They might steam role us but the dream team is still losing games that they are supposed to be winning! With your logic, since they bought a ton of top guys in FA they should be 4-0, but they are 1-3 just losing to a bad 49'ers team. You think that one play maker is going to win us last weeks game, but a top 5 WR isn't going to keep the Titan's from scoring 31 points!
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
They might steam role us but the dream team is still losing games that they are supposed to be winning! With your logic, since they bought a ton of top guys in FA they should be 4-0, but they are 1-3 just losing to a bad 49'ers team. You think that one play maker is going to win us last weeks game, but a top 5 WR isn't going to keep the Titan's from scoring 31 points!
I don't know why all the hate on the Niners from you ... They have a very good defense, and special teams ... and with Gore and VD more playmakers then us on offense.
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i can understand a 6-10 year or 5-11......i mean thats what the talent on the field is going to get us. So i don't get too mad over these losses like most of you are getting. All i here is Fire Shur or Holm etc etc. Thats just plain stupid. We can't keep bringing in new coaches n new offenses. When we are a threat to score on offense on every possesion then thats when ill be expecting winning years, as of now i cant be let down, cuz theres nothing to expect from this lousy team
i can understand a 6-10 year or 5-11......i mean thats what the talent on the field is going to get us. So i don't get too mad over these losses like most of you are getting. All i here is Fire Shur or Holm etc etc. Thats just plain stupid. We can't keep bringing in new coaches n new offenses. When we are a threat to score on offense on every possesion then thats when ill be expecting winning years, as of now i cant be let down, cuz theres nothing to expect from this lousy team
What the crybabies bemoaning we passed on Jones aren't thinking like Heckert is. Which is a a couple years down the road. Hello- Blackmon is in the 2012 draft, and the Browns are in an excellent position to snag him, or move up with Atlanta's extra first rounder to do so. WRs are ancillary pieces to the puzzle- you build your foundation first- O and D lines, then add the "Playmakers".
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Listen Julio could run a 3.5 and it won't make 2 shits if he has to stand and wait for McCoy's floaters to fall out of the sky.
Listen Julio could run a 3.5 and it won't make 2 shits if he has to stand and wait for McCoy's floaters to fall out of the sky.
this....
whose jones have throwing him the ball again?
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i mean you're totally right dude, it probably makes no difference he went to a NFC championship caliber team with a top ten WR opposite to him, a HOF tight end, a pro bowl QB and RB and dominant offensive line. Since the browns have all those things i'm sure he would just be dominating for us.
......point is, it's all about context man. You can't just objectively say because a guy is good for one team he's gonna be good for someone else. And last i checked, phil taylor is lookin pretty damn good.
Not to mention the trade that was made. The Browns got a TON of value for that move. A TON, so even in hindsight and with the success of Jones this is still a ridiculous position. Julio Jones alone does not fix the Browns. All those draft picks certainly make larger strides.
Homotron said:
Not to mention the trade that was made. The Browns got a TON of value for that move. A TON, so even in hindsight and with the success of Jones this is still a ridiculous position. Julio Jones alone does not fix the Browns. All those draft picks certainly make larger strides.
Absolutely. Who knows, in next year's draft the Browns may get a playmaker much more valuable than Jones with their Atlanta pick....or, maybe they will make some of these people crazy and take a Right Tackle!!
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ah poop, I made it clear to take Julio with the one pick,,,,but we wend dumbasas again as usual focsuing on lard bodies
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We got a hell of a stock pile of drafts from that trade to Atlanta. I'm willing to give heckert a couple of years to develop the new guys he gets with those picks. It sucks now but we'll have to give it time to see if that move panned out.
It doesn't appear to be working for the falcons right now. They're not winning enough now to justify all the picks they traded.
Hopefully we can get blackmon. He's a beast.
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Who were we gonna sign Jake? Who wants to come to a building team, when they can sign for as much or more potentially with a SuperBowl contender.
Who do YOU wish we would have signed?
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Isn't it obvious that if ur passing game isn't working, the only possible explanation is the receivers suck?
That's the gradeschool mentality ur dealing with from pk and Jake.
Isn't it obvious that if ur passing game isn't working, the only possible explanation is the receivers suck?
That's the gradeschool mentality ur dealing with from pk and Jake.
Tell you what tho that guy PK was an all-state shutdown corner......he knows more X's n O's than any of you guys
you quite possibly are the most annoying dude on this board.....the guy who goes home alone every night....stop wasting your thoughts on this site please
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Escentially Jones is another Braylon Clone without the attitued, he has great size and speed but still drops easy passes...I was all for the Browns taking a reciever go back and look at the posts except i wanted Green. Theres no need to reach for someone when you can trade back and load up on picks.
Blackmon,Jeffery>Jones
Broyles=Jones
Theres always next year to pick up a playmaking stud WR.
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Lmao....o pk, I'm just getting started. I love know-it-alls like you. Come rolling in thinking you're hot shit without realizing who populates this board. I can be an all state CB too...just by posting it.
Tell ya what....get back to me when ur balls drop and you start making football points. Cause if you really know the game like you claim, then you'd be able to frame an argument supporting an opinion. Thus far ur just making yourself look like a fool.
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Lmao....o pk, I'm just getting started. I love know-it-alls like you. Come rolling in thinking you're hot shit without realizing who populates this board. I can be an all state CB too...just by posting it.
Tell ya what....get back to me when ur balls drop and you start making football points. Cause if you really know the game like you claim, then you'd be able to frame an argument supporting an opinion. Thus far ur just making yourself look like a fool.
Lmao....o pk, I'm just getting started. I love know-it-alls like you. Come rolling in thinking you're hot shit without realizing who populates this board. I can be an all state CB too...just by posting it.
Tell ya what....get back to me when ur balls drop and you start making football points. Cause if you really know the game like you claim, then you'd be able to frame an argument supporting an opinion. Thus far ur just making yourself look like a fool.
man your whack n corny
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