Problem Is Not Receivers It's Mccoy
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Let me check how many more winless teams we can beat on our schedule.
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Did you even watch the game?
βIt is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.β -
Let me check how many more winless teams we can beat on our schedule.
Let me check how many more winless teams we can beat on our schedule.
Miss, a win is a win. The Steelers 2 wins were from winless teams as well.
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Did you even watch the game?
Did you even watch the game?
Yes. 4 games in and your still whining.
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Yeah, cause the Browns have superior talent in all areas BUT QB. It's all McCoy's fault.
You're probably going to see TN in the conference championship game but that doesn't matter to these pussies who have been queefing about the forum lately. The Browns should have beat them.
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Jesus Christ, some people need to change their tampons.
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If tenn makes to afc championship I'll never post here again. Done deal.
I never, NEVER, ever expected(<<<<<the key word) to win anything this year.
But I clearly given the fact everyone is on the "same page" expected a slightly better version of last years team. Some have progressed and a few have not. This year is about weeding out the shit to be competitive down the line.
Two things all browns fans should refuse to defend is bad coaching and bad qbs. We've seen it before, its easy to spot.
βIt is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.β -
Not many teams have a better O-line than the Browns, Colt's noodle arm is the reason he's pressured so much. No threat throwing outside the hashes. If thats all you can do, your gonna get hounded all day until you can prove you can stretch the field, and he hasn't yet.
Not many teams have a better O-line than the Browns, Colt's noodle arm is the reason he's pressured so much. No threat throwing outside the hashes. If thats all you can do, your gonna get hounded all day until you can prove you can stretch the field, and he hasn't yet.
I wouldn't be so quick to run Colt out of town. While he may not have the arm strength of Peyton Manning, he is very accurate throwing medium and deep balls. He has had some problems holding the ball too long, but he's still learning and adapting to his receivers. I watched Tim Couch for 4 seasons, and neve saw him hit a receiver in stride. I've already seen Colt do that many times. We might find out that he is nothing more than a back up QB, but I'm not ready to give up on him yet. He's elusive, and can throw on the run fairly accurately. Yeah....he's made some mistakes, but he shows more promise than the others who have come through this revolving door known as the Cleveland Browns. Hey...if all we need is a strong armed QB to turn this thing around, let's give DA a call.
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For all of those whiny bitches:
14 196 295 66.4 2,621 8.89 17 58 11 1
Does anyone know what this is?
For all of those whiny bitches:
14 196 295 66.4 2,621 8.89 17 58 11 1
Does anyone know what this is?
It is some QBs season stats. Let me guess: Joe Montana's second season? 14 games started 196 completions in 295 attempts for 2641 yards with a 66.4 completion pct. An 8.89 yards per completion average with 17 TDs, 11 ints. A long pass of 58 yards and one partridge in a pear tree? (maybe Danny Bonaducci) That's my guess. (second guess: Brett Favre's second year?) Third guess: Payton Manning's second year. Three guesses and I'm out.
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For all of those whiny bitches:
14 196 295 66.4 2,621 8.89 17 58 11 1
Does anyone know what this is?
It is some QBs season stats. Let me guess: Joe Montana's second season? 14 games started 196 completions in 295 attempts for 2641 yards with a 66.4 completion pct. An 8.89 yards per completion average with 17 TDs, 11 ints. A long pass of 58 yards and one partridge in a pear tree? (maybe Danny Bonaducci) That's my guess. (second guess: Brett Favre's second year?) Third guess: Payton Manning's second year. Three guesses and I'm out.
It is some QBs season stats. Let me guess: Joe Montana's second season? 14 games started 196 completions in 295 attempts for 2641 yards with a 66.4 completion pct. An 8.89 yards per completion average with 17 TDs, 11 ints. A long pass of 58 yards and one partridge in a pear tree? (maybe Danny Bonaducci) That's my guess. (second guess: Brett Favre's second year?) Third guess: Payton Manning's second year. Three guesses and I'm out.
Actually I should of used Joe Montana's stats:
15 176 273 64.5 1,795 6.58 15 71 9 0 87.8
Those we Raplesburgers, wanted a QB in our division. But you are right Montana is a better comparison.
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If tenn makes to afc championship I'll never post here again. Done deal.
I never, NEVER, ever expected(<<<<<the key word) to win anything this year.
But I clearly given the fact everyone is on the "same page" expected a slightly better version of last years team. Some have progressed and a few have not. This year is about weeding out the shit to be competitive down the line.
Two things all browns fans should refuse to defend is bad coaching and bad qbs. We've seen it before, its easy to spot.
If tenn makes to afc championship I'll never post here again. Done deal.
I never, NEVER, ever expected(<<<<<the key word) to win anything this year.
But I clearly given the fact everyone is on the "same page" expected a slightly better version of last years team. Some have progressed and a few have not. This year is about weeding out the shit to be competitive down the line.
Two things all browns fans should refuse to defend is bad coaching and bad qbs. We've seen it before, its easy to spot.
We don't want you not to post again. Just not jump to conclusions after 4 games. We are 2-2.
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Colt's noodle arm is the reason he's pressured so much. Nolibido
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Right. So why was Sanchez pressured so much? Why was Rothlicksbooger pressured so much?
....baloney.
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Bottom line Browns have no offensive skill player weapons that stretch the field........................and that leads to what we saw last week and it will continue until sometime this franchise recognizes that players who stretch the field on offense and are playmakers are gotten
sometimes the dawg pound bs has, no altimes, the dawgpound bs has ruled Cleveland
once the font of Offensive powerhouse winning football
now the dregs of dawgpound loser football
and blaming it on the one shining light Colt
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I don't know Rich, I am thinking the "shining lights" battery is about out of juice.
JMO
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The browns inept play against the titans goes much deeper than just QBs, WRs, LBs and coaching though all these play a part the titans come out with a plan that dismantled the browns and some good pro talent and executed it well..
Simply put, our young team and new coaches got OWNED!
Yes we need better WRs but they are not completely to blame..
Yes we need better OLBs, we all know it..
Yes coach shurmur has to put his balls to the wall and make a playbook that caters to our strengths and always keeps the
few playmakers we have fairly heavily involved period..
And yes colt mcboy is going to have to quit being a chicken shit and take charge out there and take some chances, targets are often opening up and or available to him but he just will not let off his intended primary double blanket covered target thats only 6 yards out to see it..
Windows are there even with our slow targets but they close fast and colt just doesnt seem to be taking advantage of them..
We really have to honestly evaluate his arm as he seems afraid to throw anything that may require decent accuracy and or is over 10 yards out which is most things even with the targets available..
I think its to early to jump to conclusions yet but i am nevertheless more dubious of colts leadership ability, arm strength and accuracy than i was before..
I am equally dubious of some of the shabby playcalling by shurmur some of it at times is just mind bogglingly stupid for an offensive minded coach..
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Not many teams have a better O-line than the Browns, Colt's noodle arm is the reason he's pressured so much. No threat throwing outside the hashes. If thats all you can do, your gonna get hounded all day until you can prove you can stretch the field, and he hasn't yet.
I wouldn't be so quick to run Colt out of town. While he may not have the arm strength of Peyton Manning, he is very accurate throwing medium and deep balls. He has had some problems holding the ball too long, but he's still learning and adapting to his receivers. I watched Tim Couch for 4 seasons, and neve saw him hit a receiver in stride. I've already seen Colt do that many times. We might find out that he is nothing more than a back up QB, but I'm not ready to give up on him yet. He's elusive, and can throw on the run fairly accurately. Yeah....he's made some mistakes, but he shows more promise than the others who have come through this revolving door known as the Cleveland Browns. Hey...if all we need is a strong armed QB to turn this thing around, let's give DA a call.
he is very accurate throwing medium and deep balls.
im curious as to where you have actually seen this? besides the fact he had throwm so very few passes beyond 10 yards, i have see exactly the opposite. his accuracy is getting worse....on every pass, not just medium to long. i do believe he threw a pass behind a defender.
just not seeing it. he's gotten consistently worse since preseason game 1.
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Colt McCoy is a very serviceable NFL QB who is a couple steps below the good ones, but a couple steps above the ner do wells. We made the playoffs with Kyle freakin Boller here, and Colt is defeinetly better then him. Hang in there, Colt will be fine.
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Colt McCoy is a very serviceable NFL QB who is a couple steps below the good ones, but a couple steps above the ner do wells. We made the playoffs with Kyle freakin Boller here, and Colt is defeinetly better then him. Hang in there, Colt will be fine.
Colt McCoy is a very serviceable NFL QB who is a couple steps below the good ones, but a couple steps above the ner do wells. We made the playoffs with Kyle freakin Boller here, and Colt is defeinetly better then him. Hang in there, Colt will be fine.
your defense has always kept you in the game. that can nullify inept play on the offensive side of the ball a lot of times. our D can't. we're playing from behind in almost every instance which doesn't help play calling, which in turn makes colt's deficiencies more glaring to most of us here.
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Yes our wrs are subpar, no one is saying they aren't. But lets go back to week 1, I think it was McCoy's longest completion of the year. Our inept, slow Momass literally had no one within 20 yards of him standing by the goal line. McCoy jump passes the ball with everything he has and delivers a duck that Momass has to stand and wait for. Luckily it got there before the defender, but Momass was instantly tackled on a play you should easily score on. Even McCoy's good plays aren't good enough. The guy throws 10 yard knuckleballs for christ sake. I guarantee you that if there is anyway we can within reason nab Luck its a done deal. If we did get Luck this team still would not be good, but it would instantly look better.
I think a few more weeks of this and I'm going to write a book too. I'm gonna call it "growing tired of colt."
Yes our wrs are subpar, no one is saying they aren't. But lets go back to week 1, I think it was McCoy's longest completion of the year. Our inept, slow Momass literally had no one within 20 yards of him standing by the goal line. McCoy jump passes the ball with everything he has and delivers a duck that Momass has to stand and wait for. Luckily it got there before the defender, but Momass was instantly tackled on a play you should easily score on. Even McCoy's good plays aren't good enough. The guy throws 10 yard knuckleballs for christ sake. I guarantee you that if there is anyway we can within reason nab Luck its a done deal. If we did get Luck this team still would not be good, but it would instantly look better.
I think a few more weeks of this and I'm going to write a book too. I'm gonna call it "growing tired of colt."
You're way premature. If Holmgren didn't think he had adequate arm strength, he wouldn't have gone out of his way to draft him. Jamarcus Russell and Duante Culpepper could throw the ball 90 yards in the air, and I'd bet Anderson could do the same, so what?
Shurmur just said Colt's still effectively a rookie.
This was a funny thread blaming everything on all the players.........................
but forgetting the main ingredient of Offense .......................playmakers at skill positions
who are they for the Browns ....................and dont say Hillis
and again.........................our massive paid stud oline .....................was er well ordinary
someday the smart people will get it
Who said we don't need playmakers? And yeah, I will say Hillis thank you very much. They're in H&H's game plan, just not this year. So I'll tell you your Steelers ORDINARY o-line is getting Rothlisburger killed. That bum coach Lombardi said the game is won and lost in the trenches, and that's where we're building. You don't put the roof on the house before you dig the foundation. The Browns have two first round picks next year- just maybe for your playmakers.
Ritchie poo, just how many 40 plus yard bombs does any team throw in a game? One? Two? And the guy doesn't even have to be open to make the safetys back off. Yeah, so tell me about the track speed guys like Largent and Biletnikoff had.
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he is very accurate throwing medium and deep balls.
im curious as to where you have actually seen this? besides the fact he had throwm so very few passes beyond 10 yards, i have see exactly the opposite. his accuracy is getting worse....on every pass, not just medium to long. i do believe he threw a pass behind a defender.
just not seeing it. he's gotten consistently worse since preseason game 1.
Just look back as far as the Miami game......Cribbs and Momass.....both excellent deep throws....excellent catches by the receivers, but still, he had to put the ball in the right place. I've seen it since last season. I'm not completely sold on Mccoy being a top flight QB, either. I just think he can be a very good QB, who will be consistent, and will make some big plays, once he develops a chemistry with the receivers. Very few QB's can win games without talent around them. Look at Pittspuke.....now that the Oline and is unable to give Big Gay Ben time and protection, how does he look? Colt is never going to be Tom Brady or Peyton Manning....but he can be a winner with decent talent and coaching. He has natural athleticism and is very intelligent. If he is still making stupid mistakes, at the end of the season, maybe I'm wrong. No problem.....I've been wrong before ( Tim Couch, Brady Quinn, Butch Davis,....). In fact...I was not thrilled when they drafted Mccoy, but after watching him develop, I've changed my mind. In reality, I want him to succeed so we don't have to go through that process of drafting a QB again. What makes anyone here think we can make the right decision?im curious as to where you have actually seen this? besides the fact he had throwm so very few passes beyond 10 yards, i have see exactly the opposite. his accuracy is getting worse....on every pass, not just medium to long. i do believe he threw a pass behind a defender.
just not seeing it. he's gotten consistently worse since preseason game 1.
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