Browns Have New Elite Playmaking Wr To Start
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Since when is 4.5 not pro speed? Plenty of great WR run 4.5 or slower, Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald to name a few.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Since when is 4.5 not pro speed? Plenty of great WR run 4.5 or slower, Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald to name a few.
Johnson ran a 4.35 40 yard dash...
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I didn't realize the Browns were a Track & Field team.
Jerry Rice ran a 4.71. But he sucked, right?
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"Speed is defined on the field. By what a guy does in games."
No, wait, really? So they don't just give the win to whoever has the fastest receivers?
"Little is no different than Robokowsi, they are both slow WRs compared to the top guys."
And how did you come to this conclusion? Little hasn't had enough playing time to make such an evaluation. You must be using the inaccurate stop watch in your evaluation after all. But, as Jerry Rice proved, football speed is different than 40 yard dash time. There's also those pesky things called routes. The quicker and better you are at running those, the better NFL receiver you'll be.
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Little is right on track as a rookie. Full time starter at game 5 after a year off. He is producing and will continue. He's got intangibles that coaches like and game skill he's an athlete. You know he played tailback a UNC a bit too.
Robiskie is where he should be. I doubt he'll be released since the Browns are so far under the cap. You never know if he would be needed because of injuries. Still 11 games to go.
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I would like to see us draft a WR with one of our 1st round picks, even IF Little is producing. Eventually I'd like to see Little as the 2, MoMass as the 3 and whoever we draft in the first round as the 1.
If we go another direction with the 1st, 1st pick, other than a WR, it better be LB or CB.
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When I saw Little do drills right after Green, they looked just alike to me. My "elite" was just a prediction.... GGG
Not better than Robie? That's bogus. Rob has had ALL the ops to show what he can do. He hasn't.
Little did in the last game.
You know, by speed comparison, Little ranks higher than Hines Ward. Ward ran a 4.55 at the combine. Go look it up.
The Browns still need another wr, but given the needs, Broyles is a heck of a fast, excellent playmaker....
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Yawn............. meaningless statistic. A human is incapable of stopping a stopwatch at any accuracy level approaching a 10th of a second.
Speed is defined on the field. By what a guy does in games.
The Browns are a slow, dull team. Little is no different than Robokowsi, they are both slow WRs compared to the top guys.
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Hey, why not bait a Robokowski/Robiske response? After all, it is the "buy" week. Ooh, ooh, there's another one.
Half the Hall of Fame receivers were "slow" guys. Raymond Berry, Steve Largent, Charlie Joyner, Art Monk. etc. etc. even Jerry Rice. You can be comparatively "slow" and still be outstanding....but you do need to know how to get open. Robo cannot get open. (notice though that a guy like Sanzenbacher....not fast....but he was constantly open last night)
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hope he can become our number 1/go to receiver. still think we should of drafted julio jones instead of pretty much trading him to atlanta!
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Zombo said:
Jeezus, what's wrong with you people?
Little looks like the best athlete on the field when he's out there.
This another big piece to our systematic puzzle.
We've got nine guys starting and looking like long-term players from the last two drafts.
Little, with his long arms and muscular frame reminds me of a Sterling Sharpe type, but Sharpe played at 6'0 207 and Little is 6'2 220.
He's going to be the guy we go to on 3rd and seven.
Michael Irvin was 6'2 and ran a 4.55 forty ... how did that turn out?
Seriously, between calling McCoy "Noodle" and saying Little is a "slight improvement to Robiskie" ... do you guys even give a shit anymore?
The Savage/Crennell thing didn't work. The Mangini thing didn't work. We've moved on. New Coaches, new systems. It sucks real, real bad that we have sputtered so long, but you can't blame any of these guys.
Detroit was lousy for years because they couldn't draft. They finally put 3-4 good drafts together and look at them. We put two together and everyone's crying because our QB has average NFL arm strength and our WRs have average NFL speed ... like every other gawd damn WCO team that went to the Super Bowl.
Zombo
++++1111 Bravo, Well said
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Glad to see Little get the start still surprized Robo blew so bad in this league when in college he looked pretty polished ethier way you just never know how a WR will be at the next level...
Little should be able to show us excatly how good he can be im not here saying hes to slow like alot of other people as others pointed out you dont have to be truly fast to be a great WR...
Even if Little breaks out i wouldnt mind picking up Blackmon in the 1st next year they would make a nasty tandem,and if we cant land him even Bryoles in the 2nd would be a nice pickup as well..
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Zombo said:
Jeezus, what's wrong with you people?
Little looks like the best athlete on the field when he's out there.
This another big piece to our systematic puzzle.
We've got nine guys starting and looking like long-term players from the last two drafts.
Little, with his long arms and muscular frame reminds me of a Sterling Sharpe type, but Sharpe played at 6'0 207 and Little is 6'2 220.
He's going to be the guy we go to on 3rd and seven.
Michael Irvin was 6'2 and ran a 4.55 forty ... how did that turn out?
Seriously, between calling McCoy "Noodle" and saying Little is a "slight improvement to Robiskie" ... do you guys even give a shit anymore?
The Savage/Crennell thing didn't work. The Mangini thing didn't work. We've moved on. New Coaches, new systems. It sucks real, real bad that we have sputtered so long, but you can't blame any of these guys.
Detroit was lousy for years because they couldn't draft. They finally put 3-4 good drafts together and look at them. We put two together and everyone's crying because our QB has average NFL arm strength and our WRs have average NFL speed ... like every other gawd damn WCO team that went to the Super Bowl.
Zombo
i agree little right now looks like our best option as our #1 (or 2 ) receiver.
but you are WAAAAAAAYYY too optimistic when it comes to this new 'regime'. YES heckert is a great talent evaluator and i've been happy with our last 2-3 drafts...........still you are the epitamy of the glass half full when it comes to this season.
i'll do you one better: 'THIS YEAR IN THE AFC NORTH': browns finish last with a record of 5-11 just like last year and all you holmgren blow boys can scream how it was all mangini's fault.
what a farce we are as a NFL organization. hey lerner, sell this team to someone that gives a FXXK amd shit can your ass-licker homgren and his family nut-tugger shurmur on the way out.
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Dunno if you of you are listening to his live interview with Rizzo on the really big show right now, but this kid says he believes he has the talent to take care of business and now he has the chance expect him to make plays....
I heard him right, now he has to show me, i want to see what he could do.
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Zombo said:
Detroit was lousy for years because they couldn't draft. They finally put 3-4 good drafts together and look at them. We put two together and everyone's crying because our QB has average NFL arm strength and our WRs have average NFL speed ... like every other gawd damn WCO team that went to the Super Bowl.
Zombo
Just remember, Detroit hit the jackpot... TWICE! They got Calvin Johnson and Suh. Those types of players don't come around every year. They must of had a horseshoe up their ass to get those two.
And if you say two players don't make a team, I laugh in your face. Watch these guys play and see how they impact the game.
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Zombo said:
Detroit was lousy for years because they couldn't draft. They finally put 3-4 good drafts together and look at them. We put two together and everyone's crying because our QB has average NFL arm strength and our WRs have average NFL speed ... like every other gawd damn WCO team that went to the Super Bowl.
Zombo
Just remember, Detroit hit the jackpot... TWICE! They got Calvin Johnson and Suh. Those types of players don't come around every year. They must of had a horseshoe up their ass to get those two.
And if you say two players don't make a team, I laugh in your face. Watch these guys play and see how they impact the game.
Just remember, Detroit hit the jackpot... TWICE! They got Calvin Johnson and Suh. Those types of players don't come around every year. They must of had a horseshoe up their ass to get those two.
And if you say two players don't make a team, I laugh in your face. Watch these guys play and see how they impact the game.
and stafford. plus they probably have one of the most feared defensive fronts in the league.
remember all this is due to matt millen's total shit drafts for like 5 years in a row.
they've been playing with house money for a couple of years now.
i guess going 0-16 and setting a record for losing does pay of in the long run.
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