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I Think Hillis Is Gone

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    this team is just wwaaayyyyy too bad right now. for hillis to stick his neck out for a contract demand is asking for career suicide. i could see him making his case if he breaks through the line on every playing going for 30-40 yards a touch but man.......i feel for the guy cuz i don't think anyone sans a jim brown could do that right now.

    is it possible to trade a coach and a president of a team? i'm down for that.

    @miktoxic said:

    this team is just wwaaayyyyy too bad right now. for hillis to stick his neck out for a contract demand is asking for career suicide. i could see him making his case if he breaks through the line on every playing going for 30-40 yards a touch but man.......i feel for the guy cuz i don't think anyone sans a jim brown could do that right now.

    is it possible to trade a coach and a president of a team? i'm down for that.

    I was up for giving Shurmur a fair chance but they have looked nothing short of pitiful after a bye week. What the hell did we do to prepare? Anything? The sad part is all things considered, our defense is playing ok despite the loss of Haden. Only 7 points are truly due to the defense today. Abysmal special teams. Just terrible..

  • Maybe we can draft Trent Richardson.

  • I'm sorry I bought his jersey. Two years from now it will be as relevant as a Brady Quinn jersey. Should have gone with Joe Thomas.

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  • This team is definitely missing alot of talent, but the coaching is just as horrible!! Shurmur has no clue to what he is doing. Did Holgren hire him because he and Shurmur are be test friends or what?

  • Hillis to denver for orton and lloyd as was suggested in the chat.

    I'd shit myself over that. Lol.

  • nah..he was hired cause pats uncle was holmgrens DC in green bay. its the goold ole boy hire.

  • C ClevelandBigDawg

    Might as well see if we can stockpile some picks to try to move up for Luck.

    @clevelandbigdawg said:

    Might as well see if we can stockpile some picks to try to move up for Luck.

    I agree with this 150-200%

  • Even Luck couldnt save this team sorry, plus the Browns wont get him no matter how many picks you have the Dolphins or any other team wont let him slide past......Browns have 2nd overall pick Dolphins have 1st,Browns say we will give you the 2nd overall pick as well as are other 1st with a 2nd and 3rd next year.....Dolphins tell them to put the pipe down Luck is a lock

  • Agreed, Hillis is gone. Hell, there may already be a deal in the works for him which would explain why he didn't play today.

  • genius to play his with a tweeked hammy in garbage time. shurmur looks even more the fool.

  • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

    Hamstring my ass. If that were the case they would have reported it right away, not a quarter later. Plus I highly doubt that Hillis would sit out with a tweeked hamstring if he played with broken ribs last season.

    Hillis-iz-Boss said:

    Plus I highly doubt that Hillis would sit out with a tweeked hamstring if he played with broken ribs last season.

    You really don't see a problem with that statement? Really?

  • I doubt if there is any deal in place for Hillis. you would have atleast heard rumors if that were true. I can see Hillis getting a better contract once this season is over. Only I dont know if it will be with the Browns.

  • Lets keep Hillis and get rid of whurmur... our coach is an asshat!

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  • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

    Hamstring my ass. If that were the case they would have reported it right away, not a quarter later. Plus I highly doubt that Hillis would sit out with a tweeked hamstring if he played with broken ribs last season.

    Hillis-iz-Boss said:

    Hamstring my ass. If that were the case they would have reported it right away, not a quarter later. Plus I highly doubt that Hillis would sit out with a tweeked hamstring if he played with broken ribs last season.

    You didn't or don't play sports do you? It's a hell of a lot easier to play with broken ribs than it is to play with a tweaked hamstring. You can't put any weight on that leg if your hamstring is tweaked. You get zero power and only risk making it worlds worse. Broken ribs certainly hurt like a bitch but you can take a shot and continue rolling along. Play through the pain so to speak. There is no playing through a messed up hamstring.

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  • If a player has a hamstring issue, they would have gone to the training room or be rubbing it on the bench or trying to stretch it. Not stand up looking like a lost pussy cat that wants to go onto the field and can't understand why he isn't allowed to.

  • If Shurmer isn't going to use Hillis the way he needs to be used then we need to trade him and get something for him while he is valuable. Then in the draft go after Trent Richardson out of Alabama with one of our 1st round picks. Richardson is a good blend of power and speed, can catch the ball and rarely fumbles.

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  • ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife

    I honestly think that Hillis will be traded this week. Shurmur is seeing what the offense can do without him and if they can move the ball without him and if he likes what he sees, Hillis will be gone. At this point I'm fine with it honestly. The way Hillis runs he will be done in 3 years anyway. Let's he something for him now while we can.

    @clevelandfanforlife said:

    I honestly think that Hillis will be traded this week. Shurmur is seeing what the offense can do without him and if they can move the ball without him and if he likes what he sees, Hillis will be gone. At this point I'm fine with it honestly. The way Hillis runs he will be done in 3 years anyway. Let's he something for him now while we can.

    Well, to me, Shurmur's question seems to be answered: they CAN'T move the ball without him on a consistent basis. As much as his running, it is receiving out of the backfield that the Browns miss.

    Tell me that on that last drive if the Browns couldn't have gotten those 3 yards needed for a 1st down if Hillis was able to be in the game, by either running or through a dump off pass

  • @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    Good grief, how sad!

    This guy hit the nail on the head. Hillis was the lone golden corn kernel in the turd that was the Browns last year. No one expected it because, quite honestly, what team takes the Browns' offense seriously?

    You are all so quick to blame Coach Shurmur, but you have to realize he wants to become a pass-first offense with an inaccurate QB and a WR corps that has very little talent.

    We're in year one of rebuilding (yes, year one) and, if you truly love this team, you'll have to be patient. This isn't going to happen overnight. Holmgren and Heckert have solid enough credentials for us to trust whatever it is they do with this team.

    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    Hillis-iz-boos wants the FO to be honest about what is going on? Sniff, sniff....... boo hoo..........

    For the love of naked negroes I posted what was going on with Hillis back in week one. What The FkUCK about this does your brick-thick head fail to understand?

    1) Hillis is an average Athletic talent.

    2) Rich and I repeatedly told you the reason he had a good year last year was because NOBODY planned their defense to account for the run when getting ready for the Browns. He simply caught teams with their pants down.

    3) Rich and I likewise told you ALL, WAY ahead of time, that in 2011 Hillis would be stuffed because he is EASY to be stuffed. Why? Because he is slow and has no side-to-side stuff....... so he gets stuffed.

    Now, based on his lucky, never-to-happen again 2010 season, Hillis is convinced that he deserves AP money. As fkucking dumb as Homgren is, he isn't that fkucking dumb.

    If Hillis can accept his roll as a #3 quality back on a team, then YES, there is a place for him. However, he isn't a guy that is going to have 150 yard days; he isn't a guy who is going to carry the ball 20+ times in a game; AND MOST IMPORTANTLY............. he isn't a guy who causes fear in opposing defenses.

    If he will play for $650K plus incentives, then sign him, If not? His skill is not much harder to come by than a fatass OL.

    Hillis is an average player. Get over it, and PLEASE get that idiotic suck-up memo to HIllis off the Home Page. Good grief, how sad!

    Of course, the fact that he literally won the Indy game by himself doesn't factor into your thinking....or the fact that we probably lost the Cincy game because Shurmur refused to run him in the second half....and the fact that he had strep throat and now a hamstring injury.

    Don't let the fact get in the way of your delusions.

    Also, the fact that this team lost its starting Left Guard, Right tackle and center for a while doesn't factor into your consideration either.

  • H hurk

    @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    Good grief, how sad!

    This guy hit the nail on the head. Hillis was the lone golden corn kernel in the turd that was the Browns last year. No one expected it because, quite honestly, what team takes the Browns' offense seriously?

    You are all so quick to blame Coach Shurmur, but you have to realize he wants to become a pass-first offense with an inaccurate QB and a WR corps that has very little talent.

    We're in year one of rebuilding (yes, year one) and, if you truly love this team, you'll have to be patient. This isn't going to happen overnight. Holmgren and Heckert have solid enough credentials for us to trust whatever it is they do with this team.

    @hurk said:

    This guy hit the nail on the head. Hillis was the lone golden corn kernel in the turd that was the Browns last year. No one expected it because, quite honestly, what team takes the Browns' offense seriously?

    You are all so quick to blame Coach Shurmur, but you have to realize he wants to become a pass-first offense with an inaccurate QB and a WR corps that has very little talent.

    We're in year one of rebuilding (yes, year one) and, if you truly love this team, you'll have to be patient. This isn't going to happen overnight. Holmgren and Heckert have solid enough credentials for us to trust whatever it is they do with this team.

    How old are you? I have been patient since I was 12 years old. I will be 60 in January. Don't f88king tell us to be patient.

    I am all in with H&H and their credentials. But, the 49ers are 5-1 and looking tremendous after having the same record as the Browns last year. I see no reason that the Browns should not have had a similar turnaround under their new coach..

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