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  • USFBrownU USFBrown

    @carlos said:

    "mi amigos" means my friends so you sound like an idiot to anyone that speaks spanish OR more than one language. And as for your analysis of QBs, i could give a tiny rat's ass.

    Lol. I'm pretty sure every knows that. I had a friend names Carlo and we'd always say mi amigo. Anyways, no one around here really seems to give a rat what you say either.

    So welcome to the club.

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    C Carlos wrote on last edited by
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    @usfbrown said:

    Lol. I'm pretty sure every knows that. I had a friend names Carlo and we'd always say mi amigo. Anyways, no one around here really seems to give a rat what you say either.

    So welcome to the club.

    okay cool its good to be here

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      USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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      Anyways Colt is 21st in yardage and 27th in qb rating.

      I'd say my assessment of he stinks like shit is pretty accurate.

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        Anyways Colt is 21st in yardage and 27th in qb rating.

        I'd say my assessment of he stinks like shit is pretty accurate.

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        C Carlos wrote on last edited by
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        @usfbrown said:

        Anyways Colt is 21st in yardage and 27th in qb rating.

        I'd say my assessment of he stinks like shit is pretty accurate.

        youre entitled to it.

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          Oh, bullbleep.

          if YOU whiners were an NFL qb, pretty much a rookie, with a new coaching staff, new offense, only one legit blue chippie caliber wr (Little @@),

          without your battering ram rb Hillis, and your other rb can't catch a cold or a simple dump off pass, you don't even HAVE a legit ORT,

          and your veteran OLG is out for the year and a rookie plays in his place, your ORG is still learning and growing into a solid player,

          and your are your outstanding center is playing WHILE RECOVERING FROM APPENDIX SURGERY, and your offensive line has little or no legit depth....,

          you can't run the ball, and you have no protection on the right side, and ....

          you criticize Colt for being jumpy? Come on, man. Seriously. Get a grip.

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            Oh, bullbleep.

            if YOU whiners were an NFL qb, pretty much a rookie, with a new coaching staff, new offense, only one legit blue chippie caliber wr (Little @@),

            without your battering ram rb Hillis, and your other rb can't catch a cold or a simple dump off pass, you don't even HAVE a legit ORT,

            and your veteran OLG is out for the year and a rookie plays in his place, your ORG is still learning and growing into a solid player,

            and your are your outstanding center is playing WHILE RECOVERING FROM APPENDIX SURGERY, and your offensive line has little or no legit depth....,

            you can't run the ball, and you have no protection on the right side, and ....

            you criticize Colt for being jumpy? Come on, man. Seriously. Get a grip.

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            USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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            @calfoxwc said:

            Oh, bullbleep.

            if YOU whiners were an NFL qb, pretty much a rookie, with a new coaching staff, new offense, only one legit blue chippie caliber wr (Little @@),

            without your battering ram rb Hillis, and your other rb can't catch a cold or a simple dump off pass, you don't even HAVE a legit ORT,

            and your veteran OLG is out for the year and a rookie plays in his place, your ORG is still learning and growing into a solid player,

            and your are your outstanding center is playing WHILE RECOVERING FROM APPENDIX SURGERY, and your offensive line has little or no legit depth....,

            you can't run the ball, and you have no protection on the right side, and ....

            you criticize Colt for being jumpy? Come on, man. Seriously. Get a grip.

            Great reasons for why his play has been bad. I like the kid and think he has what it takes but you gotta judge him by his performance. If you don't judge by that, what else is there to go off of?

            He's got potential but he's stuck on a bad team and he's playing bad football.

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              I think the team as a whole is playing really tight right now. They need a couple breaks and a big scoring game this weekend to loosen things up. Once Hillis gets back and healthy you'll see this offense start to warm up.

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                Oh, bullbleep.

                if YOU whiners were an NFL qb, pretty much a rookie, with a new coaching staff, new offense, only one legit blue chippie caliber wr (Little @@),

                without your battering ram rb Hillis, and your other rb can't catch a cold or a simple dump off pass, you don't even HAVE a legit ORT,

                and your veteran OLG is out for the year and a rookie plays in his place, your ORG is still learning and growing into a solid player,

                and your are your outstanding center is playing WHILE RECOVERING FROM APPENDIX SURGERY, and your offensive line has little or no legit depth....,

                you can't run the ball, and you have no protection on the right side, and ....

                you criticize Colt for being jumpy? Come on, man. Seriously. Get a grip.

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                @calfoxwc said:

                Oh, bullbleep.

                if YOU whiners were an NFL qb, pretty much a rookie, with a new coaching staff, new offense, only one legit blue chippie caliber wr (Little @@),

                without your battering ram rb Hillis, and your other rb can't catch a cold or a simple dump off pass, you don't even HAVE a legit ORT,

                so if you were to place blame on a single individual as to why those things you've pointed out have happened, who would that be?

                whose fault is it we have a new coaching staff, no playmakers, no discipline and aren't ready to play on sunday? i'm not talkin injuries either.

                i can only think of two people that you can attribute these things to. and yes if everything works out they get the praise. but that isn't the case right now.

                i wonder who that could be????

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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                  so if you were to place blame on a single individual as to why those things you've pointed out have happened, who would that be? Miktoxic

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                  There isn't any blame on any single individual. That's just invalid. It is a cumulative disaster of all sorts of coaching bad judgements by all sorts of

                  coaches and FO. It's taken two years to get this far, and now we have injuries, which the Browns can not afford. So, the offense is helpless to

                  compete.

                  Meanwhile, the defense is way, way better under Shurmur than they were under Mangini. And with few injuries, cept Haden's hamstring.

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                  whose fault is it we have a new coaching staff, no playmakers, no discipline and aren't ready to play on sunday? i'm not talkin injuries either.

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                  The new coaching staff is a huge arse PLUS. Whose fault is it that Mangini was a hc? That Davis and Butticheck sucked blue slime off of carp's butts?

                  We have playmakers. Little is that, but he's a rookie. Colt is that, but he doesn't have a complete, competitive offensive line. Haden is that, but he's hurt.

                  Watson is that, but the oline is worthless at RT, and defenses are simply stacking against the short passes and the run, and Mack is playing while recuperating from surgery.

                  Desperately trying to make something work fast enough with a new offense? That isn't discipline, that's just life. Getting caught

                  on a few trick plays? A lot of new players still learning new defense, special teams.

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                  i can only think of two people that you can attribute these things to. and yes if everything works out they get the praise. but that isn't the case right now.

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                  The Browns have historically drafted really stupid, and the lack of legit NFL players has reaked havoc on any chances of a winning team.... so it takes more than

                  one or two years of really solid drafting to fix the entire team. With all the needs, you want to draft about 20 starters with only 14 draft picks? Come on.

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                  i wonder who that could be????

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                  Who? More like what. Bad, ignorant drafting history, until the last two years - with a few exceptions. That's "who".

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                    htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                    Jimmy needed a better team, Cam makes that team better. Colt needs to make this team better. That's the plain and simple. He's not showing the potential.

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                      Well... my buddy said he stinks like shit, smells like jizz, and throws like a girl.

                      Who cares what people say or think. He's not producing and yeah it's not all his fault but it's not good right now.

                      He's been playing great in the last 2 minutes of the games. He's the GARBAGE TIME CHAMPION. Other than that, i've seen him miss wide open guys, over throw deep routes, under throw short ones. I don't know what it is, but his accuracy and timing is off with this crew.

                      Maybe he will be the next Montana, but this year he stinks just like the entire Browns offense does.

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                      P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                      @usfbrown said:

                      Well... my buddy said he stinks like shit, smells like jizz, and throws like a girl.

                      Who cares what people say or think. He's not producing and yeah it's not all his fault but it's not good right now.

                      He's been playing great in the last 2 minutes of the games. He's the GARBAGE TIME CHAMPION. Other than that, i've seen him miss wide open guys, over throw deep routes, under throw short ones. I don't know what it is, but his accuracy and timing is off with this crew.

                      Maybe he will be the next Montana, but this year he stinks just like the entire Browns offense does.

                      Maybe he does good because he has more time to throw because teams are less likely to rush the passer with aggression.

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                        Lwt's keep in mind the Browns have an entirely new coaching staff and the offseason was shortened by the lockout.

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                          It's too soon to judge but last year's coaching staff got more out of him against better opposition. He's hesitating and the fraction of a second is making him much less accurate than usual. When he's decisive he's been good. The problem is that this offense can be very complex. They're relying on him way too much to carry the offense. I haven't noticed him making audibles so I'm guessing he must not be allowed to.

                          I am very disappointed in the results and I questioned his ability coming out of Texas (I'm an alum who saw every game he played in college). Great collegiate player. Unclear what his pro ceiling is. I think he's better than #10 was before him but that isn't saying a whole lot.

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                            Cam makes that team better. Colt needs to make this team better. That's the plain and simple. He's not showing the potential. htownbrown

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                            Cam has a freakin solid OFFENSIVE LINE. Colt does NOT.

                            LOOK who the offensive line starters are for Carolina. Note that CAROLINA DRAFTED EVERY ONE OF THEM. The Browns don't have a RT on the roster, practically speaking.

                            They needed a qb. They HAD THE OFFENSIVE LINE IN PLACE. THEY PAID ATTENTION TO BUILDING and COMPLETING THEIR OFFENSIVE LINE.

                            Their only question? is at RT. But this last draft, they DID draft one. The Browns don't have one, and it ruins their chances, Lauvao is still a second year player,

                            and Pinkston at LOG is a rookie, and Mack is playing while recovering from an appendectomy.

                            Come ON, man !

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                              I don't know how you can say McCoy is sound on his mechanics.Look at

                              the games and tell me how how many times he throws off his back foot.

                              Tell me how many times he steps into a throw and turns his hips into

                              the throw. The answers are a lot and not nearly enough respectively.

                              Add that to a weak arm and he is playing badly.

                              His claim to fame was his accuracy and even that is way off this year.

                              He has truly regressed this year from last year. Whether that is

                              coaching (I seem to think some of it is) or lack of O-line play or

                              bad receivers is possible.

                              Personally,I think Shurmur is overwhelmed by the job.He has too much on

                              his plate and it shows in his play calling.Where are the hot reads on the

                              blitz? Where are the slants? When does McCoy EVER throw a mid range throw

                              across the middle? He better figure it out quick or this is a 4-12 team and

                              you still don't have a NFL quarterback.Remember that the Browns have STILL

                              not played a top flight NFL defense.

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                                By "up north" I assume you mean anything north of the Rio Grande?

                                Otherwise, in this country, I would say that is a completely outdated term. Over half the people in the southern/western US states moved there within the last 40 years.

                                And FYI we have a term that has been in use for a long time on this board. It is "DAT". Figure it out. In fact, on this board, that is the official name of a certain NFL team.

                                Its definitely an outmoded term. I was trying to make a jab at the fact that some folks from the South still act like the Civil War is going on. Wasn't very funny but it was just a joke.

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @carlos said:

                                Its definitely an outmoded term. I was trying to make a jab at the fact that some folks from the South still act like the Civil War is going on. Wasn't very funny but it was just a joke.

                                OK, but did you figure out DAT yet? FYI, the play in the AFC South.

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                                  @carlos said:

                                  Its definitely an outmoded term. I was trying to make a jab at the fact that some folks from the South still act like the Civil War is going on. Wasn't very funny but it was just a joke.

                                  OK, but did you figure out DAT yet? FYI, the play in the AFC South.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  OK, but did you figure out DAT yet? FYI, the play in the AFC South.

                                  Nah I never figured it out, but I have this feeling its gonna be some kind of crack on the Dallas Cowboys, lol. What is it?

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                                    I don't know how you can say McCoy is sound on his mechanics.Look at

                                    the games and tell me how how many times he throws off his back foot.

                                    Tell me how many times he steps into a throw and turns his hips into

                                    the throw. The answers are a lot and not nearly enough respectively.

                                    Add that to a weak arm and he is playing badly.

                                    His claim to fame was his accuracy and even that is way off this year.

                                    He has truly regressed this year from last year. Whether that is

                                    coaching (I seem to think some of it is) or lack of O-line play or

                                    bad receivers is possible.

                                    Personally,I think Shurmur is overwhelmed by the job.He has too much on

                                    his plate and it shows in his play calling.Where are the hot reads on the

                                    blitz? Where are the slants? When does McCoy EVER throw a mid range throw

                                    across the middle? He better figure it out quick or this is a 4-12 team and

                                    you still don't have a NFL quarterback.Remember that the Browns have STILL

                                    not played a top flight NFL defense.

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                                    USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                    @darubes said:

                                    I don't know how you can say McCoy is sound on his mechanics.Look at

                                    the games and tell me how how many times he throws off his back foot.

                                    Tell me how many times he steps into a throw and turns his hips into

                                    the throw. The answers are a lot and not nearly enough respectively.

                                    Add that to a weak arm and he is playing badly.

                                    His claim to fame was his accuracy and even that is way off this year.

                                    He has truly regressed this year from last year. Whether that is

                                    coaching (I seem to think some of it is) or lack of O-line play or

                                    bad receivers is possible.

                                    Personally,I think Shurmur is overwhelmed by the job.He has too much on

                                    his plate and it shows in his play calling.Where are the hot reads on the

                                    blitz? Where are the slants? When does McCoy EVER throw a mid range throw

                                    across the middle? He better figure it out quick or this is a 4-12 team and

                                    you still don't have a NFL quarterback.Remember that the Browns have STILL

                                    not played a top flight NFL defense.

                                    I agree with everything except that we have a top flight defense. I would say average at best. They could be better if the offense gave them so rest time.

                                    We're 4th against the pass and 24th against the rush. Reason we're ranked so high against the pass, cuz teams run all over us. Overall not too bad, except knowing they spent our 1st round pick to get a run stopper and that isn't happening too well.

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                                      I don't know how you can say McCoy is sound on his mechanics.Look at

                                      the games and tell me how how many times he throws off his back foot.

                                      Tell me how many times he steps into a throw and turns his hips into

                                      the throw. The answers are a lot and not nearly enough respectively.

                                      Add that to a weak arm and he is playing badly.

                                      His claim to fame was his accuracy and even that is way off this year.

                                      He has truly regressed this year from last year. Whether that is

                                      coaching (I seem to think some of it is) or lack of O-line play or

                                      bad receivers is possible.

                                      Personally,I think Shurmur is overwhelmed by the job.He has too much on

                                      his plate and it shows in his play calling.Where are the hot reads on the

                                      blitz? Where are the slants? When does McCoy EVER throw a mid range throw

                                      across the middle? He better figure it out quick or this is a 4-12 team and

                                      you still don't have a NFL quarterback.Remember that the Browns have STILL

                                      not played a top flight NFL defense.

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                                      C Carlos wrote on last edited by
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                                      @darubes said:

                                      I don't know how you can say McCoy is sound on his mechanics.Look at

                                      the games and tell me how how many times he throws off his back foot.

                                      Tell me how many times he steps into a throw and turns his hips into

                                      the throw. The answers are a lot and not nearly enough respectively.

                                      Add that to a weak arm and he is playing badly.

                                      His claim to fame was his accuracy and even that is way off this year.

                                      He has truly regressed this year from last year. Whether that is

                                      coaching (I seem to think some of it is) or lack of O-line play or

                                      bad receivers is possible.

                                      Personally,I think Shurmur is overwhelmed by the job.He has too much on

                                      his plate and it shows in his play calling.Where are the hot reads on the

                                      blitz? Where are the slants? When does McCoy EVER throw a mid range throw

                                      across the middle? He better figure it out quick or this is a 4-12 team and

                                      you still don't have a NFL quarterback.Remember that the Browns have STILL

                                      not played a top flight NFL defense.

                                      McCoy's mechanics are fine, but he has made some bad throws. Rotation occurs on a correctly thrown pass, so I don't know what youre talking about with the hips thing. Much of the momentum that goes into throwing a football comes from a player's base and moves upward into the throw and the kinetic force put behind a ball occurs on rotation. Anyway, I agree with you about McCoy making some bad passes, I've seen it too, and those are inexcusable. Posting up a vid of my friend throwing the football and its in slo-mo so you can see the rotation that occurs on a pass.

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                                        Oh, come ON, man !

                                        Meanwhile:

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                                          @darubes said:

                                          I don't know how you can say McCoy is sound on his mechanics.Look at

                                          the games and tell me how how many times he throws off his back foot.

                                          Tell me how many times he steps into a throw and turns his hips into

                                          the throw. The answers are a lot and not nearly enough respectively.

                                          Add that to a weak arm and he is playing badly.

                                          His claim to fame was his accuracy and even that is way off this year.

                                          He has truly regressed this year from last year. Whether that is

                                          coaching (I seem to think some of it is) or lack of O-line play or

                                          bad receivers is possible.

                                          Personally,I think Shurmur is overwhelmed by the job.He has too much on

                                          his plate and it shows in his play calling.Where are the hot reads on the

                                          blitz? Where are the slants? When does McCoy EVER throw a mid range throw

                                          across the middle? He better figure it out quick or this is a 4-12 team and

                                          you still don't have a NFL quarterback.Remember that the Browns have STILL

                                          not played a top flight NFL defense.

                                          I agree with everything except that we have a top flight defense. I would say average at best. They could be better if the offense gave them so rest time.

                                          We're 4th against the pass and 24th against the rush. Reason we're ranked so high against the pass, cuz teams run all over us. Overall not too bad, except knowing they spent our 1st round pick to get a run stopper and that isn't happening too well.

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                                          @usfbrown said:

                                          I agree with everything except that we have a top flight defense. I would say average at best. They could be better if the offense gave them so rest time.

                                          We're 4th against the pass and 24th against the rush. Reason we're ranked so high against the pass, cuz teams run all over us. Overall not too bad, except knowing they spent our 1st round pick to get a run stopper and that isn't happening too well.

                                          I meant the Browns have still not played AGAINST a top flight NFL defense.

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