Your Free Agents We Could Have Had...this Off Season
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G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
2010 Green Bay Packers 16 13 190 703 3.7 71 3 43 342 8.0 37 1 1 0
That was just last, for Jackson in a passing team, not bad for a BACK-UP running back
PATTERSON
G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2010 Philadelphia Eagles 16 9 52 50 2 1.0 0 11 4 40 10.0 40T 1 0
again as a back-up 4 picks and 11 Pdef, he started 9 games!!!
NOT BAD FOR A BACK-UP
Young, well not so much....
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now that list is not that good, depending who we get the draft. I think still think we draft the LB from ASU Burfict and the DE from NC...
We should throw as much money as we can at Matt Forte for some reason the Bears are being Retards and not signing that guy..I am sure they will work something out, but if they didnt thats a guy you throw money at!!!!
As for your Wid-outs there are a TON OF TOP FLIGHT WIDE-OUTS GOING TO BE FREEE AGENT, some we will have a chance at some we will not!!!
Harry Douglas – ATL
Derrick Mason – BAL
Brandon Jones – BAL
Roscoe Parrish – BUF we could get
Steve Johnson – BUF Buf will sign
Wallace Wright – CAR
Earl Bennett – CHI
Andre Caldwell – CIN We could get
Jerome Simpson – CIN
Demetrius Williams – CLE
Kevin Ogletree – DAL
Brandon Lloyd – ST.L
Eddie Royal – DEN
Matt Willis – DEN
Bryant Johnson – DET
Derrick Williams – DET
David Anderson - HOU
Anthony Gonzalez – IND
Reggie Wayne – IND NO WAY
Pierre Garcon – IND NO WAY
Tiquan Underwood – JAC
Jerheme Urban – KC
Dwayne Bowe - KC- NOPE
Greg Camarillo – MIN
Juaquin Iglesias – MIN
Deion Branch - NE
Wes Welker – NE NOPE
Matt Slater – NE
Marques Colston - NO NOPE
Robert Meachem – NO- MAYBE
Devin Thomas – NYG
Mario Manningham - NYG- I THINK WE REALLY COULD GET HIM
Patrick Turner – NYJ
Chaz Schilens – OAK
DeSean Jackson – PHI NO WAY
Limas Sweed – PIT
Mike Wallace – PIT
Patrick Crayton – SD
Craig Davis – SD
Vincent Jackson – SD NO WAY
Isaiah Stanback – SEA
Ted Ginn Jr – SF
Josh Morgan – SF Maybe
Dominique Zeigler – SF
Donnie Avery – STL
Justin Gage – TEN
Lavelle Hawkins – TEN
Malcolm Kelly – WAS
Roydell Williams – WAS
ALOT OF THE TOP FLIGHT WIDE RECEIVERS WILL EITHER RE UP WITH THERE TEAM, OR THEY WILL GET FRANSHISE TAG. I think that is what we will do with D.Q if we can not re-sign him
As for your Wid-outs there are a TON OF TOP FLIGHT WIDE-OUTS GOING TO BE FREEE AGENT, some we will have a chance at some we will not!!!
We won't land any decent free agent because none of them will want to play for the abomination we call an offense. Who would want to come play Wide Out after watching this shit Cleveland has been producing?
NO ONE!
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Our offense is awful but at this point i do not see any of those guys really helping out in the now or in the long run..
The on-field vanilla of learning a new system on the fly and with many journeyman rookies vs any pro defense that has done their homework is unfortunately a predictable mismatch..
I think the hope is that the timing and gelling will eventually come and then the team will be hard to stop even in predictable vanilla mode and near impossible to stop once more unpredictable playcalling is built off of that..
Even though i am bitching a bit lately due to not seeing any progress whatsoever i still think pat shurmur is and will be a fine coach and heckert will eventually build this teams talent and i am still for building the team the right way..
Nevertheless i expect progress and not regression yet we know that sometimes you have to have setbacks/regression to actually gain progress..
Its an ongoing process and hopefully we will see this team start to turn things around within the next few games..
We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS! -
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Eagles, argument won.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Eagles, argument won.
+1
And 2000 Redskins.
But let's get say we should get a team of free agents. I still think a vet or younger with experience would help the development of our crappy WRs. I won't be changing my mind about that soon.
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Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Eagles, argument won.
+1
And 2000 Redskins.
But let's get say we should get a team of free agents. I still think a vet or younger with experience would help the development of our crappy WRs. I won't be changing my mind about that soon.
+1
And 2000 Redskins.
But let's get say we should get a team of free agents. I still think a vet or younger with experience would help the development of our crappy WRs. I won't be changing my mind about that soon.
T.O. is holding workouts Tuesday. A WCO veteran.
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T.O. is holding workouts Tuesday. A WCO veteran.
I don't want a diva but I stand by saying these guys could use a mentor.
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mikeyP72 said:
Everyone is being so ignorant it's funny.
No one, once, _EVER_ said they wanted us to be the Eagles.
Basically, if you can't see adding Jonathon Joseph and a better DE than Jayme Mitchell would have helped our team this season then just stop talking about sports.
There were no real options at FS, so Usama Young was a decent move in hindsight but he isn't panning out.
WR's are a joke. Little is coming around though I loved that pick and will hope for Alshon Jeffrey or Justin Blackmon in the draft next year.
Add in a good LB and DE and this team will be competitive.
All I've been saying all along and I'll reiterate:
IT TAKES BOTH F/A _AND_ THE DRAFT TO BUILD A WINNER.
But most importantly, to quote gizoohly: It takes play-makers. Which we will likely draft. Heckert found LeSean McCoy, DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin. I believe he can draft them and can't wait to see it.
I just want more of an effort to win now while we continue to draft strong and move forward. The product fans see on Sunday shouldn't be as shitty as it's been in Cleveland. That's where all of us should agree.
Go Browns, right?
Exactly. No one here is saying be the eagles or redskins but we want to see something done to win now. Hell we deserve it. Like you said the draft is the core but free agency can provide much needed help. With such a young team we need more leaders and guys who can mentor.
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I dont mind getting Braylon Edwards back. Atleast his speed and size will make him a threat that the opponents will have to plan for.
Would have been real happy to get Lee Evans if a 4th round pick was all we had to sacrifice.
Also just because the FA's are not clicking in their new teams does not mean that they are bad signings and they will never click. That is a risk you take with every FA's just like with high draft picks.
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Our offense is awful but at this point i do not see any of those guys really helping out in the now or in the long run..
The on-field vanilla of learning a new system on the fly and with many journeyman rookies vs any pro defense that has done their homework is unfortunately a predictable mismatch..
I think the hope is that the timing and gelling will eventually come and then the team will be hard to stop even in predictable vanilla mode and near impossible to stop once more unpredictable playcalling is built off of that..
Even though i am bitching a bit lately due to not seeing any progress whatsoever i still think pat shurmur is and will be a fine coach and heckert will eventually build this teams talent and i am still for building the team the right way..
Nevertheless i expect progress and not regression yet we know that sometimes you have to have setbacks/regression to actually gain progress..
Its an ongoing process and hopefully we will see this team start to turn things around within the next few games..
Our offense is awful but at this point i do not see any of those guys really helping out in the now or in the long run..
The on-field vanilla of learning a new system on the fly and with many journeyman rookies vs any pro defense that has done their homework is unfortunately a predictable mismatch..
I think the hope is that the timing and gelling will eventually come and then the team will be hard to stop even in predictable vanilla mode and near impossible to stop once more unpredictable playcalling is built off of that..
Even though i am bitching a bit lately due to not seeing any progress whatsoever i still think pat shurmur is and will be a fine coach and heckert will eventually build this teams talent and i am still for building the team the right way..
Nevertheless i expect progress and not regression yet we know that sometimes you have to have setbacks/regression to actually gain progress..
Its an ongoing process and hopefully we will see this team start to turn things around within the next few games..
Sometimes you have to take a step back in order to take two steps forward. Let's all hope that's what's going on here.
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You could also talk trade, Lloyd is better than anything we have right now..
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Constantly injured with one good season out of 9. Plus he's a FA next year. 4-5 of those seasons he put up robiskie-like numbers.
Constantly injured with one good season out of 9. Plus he's a FA next year. 4-5 of those seasons he put up robiskie-like numbers.
He is more coveted because of last season and you're right about his numbers but it would be nice to see the Browns make some moves. Even if you are renting him for a 6th rounder it would be nice to see the Browns spend some money...
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no it wouldn't. doing something just to do it doesn't sound like a good idea. making good moves yes....but to make a move just because?
i understand its your opinion....fine. but i simply cannot fathom why.....wasting a pick to rent a player? gets us what...exactly? further considering that this season is admittedly, from our president, an evaluation year, why would anyone waste picks when the W/L column is not important? furthermore, why is compromising the cap, which is currently 12mil under, something we need to do when we have no shot at contending for the playoffs?
not trying to be a dick man....but making a move just to make one, or spending just to spend is a horrible way to run a team. there's other things afoote beside worrying about winning 7 games as opposed to 5.
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no it wouldn't. doing something just to do it doesn't sound like a good idea. making good moves yes....but to make a move just because?
i understand its your opinion....fine. but i simply cannot fathom why.....wasting a pick to rent a player? gets us what...exactly? further considering that this season is admittedly, from our president, an evaluation year, why would anyone waste picks when the W/L column is not important? furthermore, why is compromising the cap, which is currently 12mil under, something we need to do when we have no shot at contending for the playoffs?
not trying to be a dick man....but making a move just to make one, or spending just to spend is a horrible way to run a team. there's other things afoote beside worrying about winning 7 games as opposed to 5.
no it wouldn't. doing something just to do it doesn't sound like a good idea. making good moves yes....but to make a move just because?
i understand its your opinion....fine. but i simply cannot fathom why.....wasting a pick to rent a player? gets us what...exactly? further considering that this season is admittedly, from our president, an evaluation year, why would anyone waste picks when the W/L column is not important? furthermore, why is compromising the cap, which is currently 12mil under, something we need to do when we have no shot at contending for the playoffs?
not trying to be a dick man....but making a move just to make one, or spending just to spend is a horrible way to run a team. there's other things afoote beside worrying about winning 7 games as opposed to 5.
The last serious move the Browns made was Donte Stallworth. As fans we've been sold this "rebuilding" bag of goods for years now. I think we could spare a Carlton Mitchell or Eric Hagg.
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no it wouldn't. doing something just to do it doesn't sound like a good idea. making good moves yes....but to make a move just because?
i understand its your opinion....fine. but i simply cannot fathom why.....wasting a pick to rent a player? gets us what...exactly? further considering that this season is admittedly, from our president, an evaluation year, why would anyone waste picks when the W/L column is not important? furthermore, why is compromising the cap, which is currently 12mil under, something we need to do when we have no shot at contending for the playoffs?
not trying to be a dick man....but making a move just to make one, or spending just to spend is a horrible way to run a team. there's other things afoote beside worrying about winning 7 games as opposed to 5.
The last serious move the Browns made was Donte Stallworth. As fans we've been sold this "rebuilding" bag of goods for years now. I think we could spare a Carlton Mitchell or Eric Hagg.
The last serious move the Browns made was Donte Stallworth. As fans we've been sold this "rebuilding" bag of goods for years now. I think we could spare a Carlton Mitchell or Eric Hagg.
As fans we've been through multiple regimes, most with absolutely no true football minds behind the moves being made - putting us in the position we have been in. 2007 was a fluke. Do you remember how bad the Browns were in terms of cap space the past couple of years. We have a regime that has drafted extremely well, (guess what guys, this is only their second year) - and has signed smart contracts (knowing that we have a lot more spaces to fill than to just waste space). Yeah, I know people are sick of rebuilding, but where we were put during the last regime, left us in a horrible position. We have two brilliant football minds in the FO, making solid moves - knowing that it isn't something that can or will be done as early as this season. It's obvious what this team is doing and I love it - building through the draft, creating a strong and lasting foundation. They don't want another 2007 season, they want to replace the spots the Steelers and Ravens will leave behind in the next 1-2 years. Why spend a lot of useless long term contract money to fill wholes with aging players, when we realistically KNOW we cannot compete in the division now.
It's a: "you'll thank me later" type situation.
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