Why The 49Ers Are So Good This Year...
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Of course all phases of the game count. My point is your offense isn't good enough to be a contender. Your coach has made the most of what you have so far. Kudos to him. He has you guys running the ball and creating turnovers on defense. You need to do well at both to make up for having Alex Smith at QB and no breakout WRs. My point is that this type of play isn't sustainable. Teams will adjust and SF will come back down to earth. You need to be great in all three phases to be even close to the team the patriots were in 2007.
I'm sorry my friend, but you're looking at it all wrong.
You're making the common mistake of viewing a big passing game as the be all end all of having a great offense in todays pass happy NFL. Most of the so-called "good" teams like the Packers, Patriots, Saints, etc really only have two or three great playmakers, one of which is the QB, that they rely on to win their games for them. If the QB or his star receiver has a bad game, they lose. If their star QB or receiver goes down to an injury, they're done for the season. These teams are one-dimensional and are more vulnerable to a fall off in performance over the course of a season.
The Niners on the other hand are a team without an elite QB or a dominant "household name" receiver to run the score up with. Instead they have a deceptively blue collar offense that relies on everyone to contribute to the success of the offense. Same goes for our defense. Except for perhaps Patrick Willis, there are no household names, just a solid unit that plays great football together. If any single player on offense or defense has a bad day, they have their teammates to step up for them and make the play. Football is a TEAM GAME and no team in the NFL is playing as a team better than the 49ers.
Cap all that off with a new and brilliant head coach/playcaller (who's favorite hobby is walking on water
) and you have a recipe for consistent success. I would also acknowledge again that Alex Smith is not an elite QB who's not asked to do much and that he is where he is because of coaching. Because of that, I believe that IF he gets hurt, our second string QB can come in and perform at an equal level to get the job done. In Harbaugh I Trust
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Of course all phases of the game count. My point is your offense isn't good enough to be a contender. Your coach has made the most of what you have so far. Kudos to him. He has you guys running the ball and creating turnovers on defense. You need to do well at both to make up for having Alex Smith at QB and no breakout WRs. My point is that this type of play isn't sustainable. Teams will adjust and SF will come back down to earth. You need to be great in all three phases to be even close to the team the patriots were in 2007.
I'm sorry my friend, but you're looking at it all wrong.
You're making the common mistake of viewing a big passing game as the be all end all of having a great offense in todays pass happy NFL. Most of the so-called "good" teams like the Packers, Patriots, Saints, etc really only have two or three great playmakers, one of which is the QB, that they rely on to win their games for them. If the QB or his star receiver has a bad game, they lose. If their star QB or receiver goes down to an injury, they're done for the season. These teams are one-dimensional and are more vulnerable to a fall off in performance over the course of a season.
The Niners on the other hand are a team without an elite QB or a dominant "household name" receiver to run the score up with. Instead they have a deceptively blue collar offense that relies on everyone to contribute to the success of the offense. Same goes for our defense. Except for perhaps Patrick Willis, there are no household names, just a solid unit that plays great football together. If any single player on offense or defense has a bad day, they have their teammates to step up for them and make the play. Football is a TEAM GAME and no team in the NFL is playing as a team better than the 49ers.
Cap all that off with a new and brilliant head coach/playcaller (who's favorite hobby is walking on water
) and you have a recipe for consistent success. I would also acknowledge again that Alex Smith is not an elite QB who's not asked to do much and that he is where he is because of coaching. Because of that, I believe that IF he gets hurt, our second string QB can come in and perform at an equal level to get the job done. In Harbaugh I Trust
I'm sorry my friend, but you're looking at it all wrong.
You're making the common mistake of viewing a big passing game as the be all end all of having a great offense in todays pass happy NFL. Most of the so-called "good" teams like the Packers, Patriots, Saints, etc really only have two or three great playmakers, one of which is the QB, that they rely on to win their games for them. If the QB or his star receiver has a bad game, they lose. If their star QB or receiver goes down to an injury, they're done for the season. These teams are one-dimensional and are more vulnerable to a fall off in performance over the course of a season.
The Niners on the other hand are a team without an elite QB or a dominant "household name" receiver to run the score up with. Instead they have a deceptively blue collar offense that relies on everyone to contribute to the success of the offense. Same goes for our defense. Except for perhaps Patrick Willis, there are no household names, just a solid unit that plays great football together. If any single player on offense or defense has a bad day, they have their teammates to step up for them and make the play. Football is a TEAM GAME and no team in the NFL is playing as a team better than the 49ers.
Cap all that off with a new and brilliant head coach/playcaller (who's favorite hobby is walking on water
) and you have a recipe for consistent success. I would also acknowledge again that Alex Smith is not an elite QB who's not asked to do much and that he is where he is because of coaching. Because of that, I believe that IF he gets hurt, our second string QB can come in and perform at an equal level to get the job done. In Harbaugh I Trust
The 49ers have far less flaws then the top elite teams. If you shut down Rodgers or Brady they are done. If you shut down Alex Smith, he plays conservative enough to where it wont get that bad, and you still have to deal with our elite running game and defense, and best special teams in the league.
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I'm sorry my friend, but you're looking at it all wrong.
You're making the common mistake of viewing a big passing game as the be all end all of having a great offense in todays pass happy NFL. Most of the so-called "good" teams like the Packers, Patriots, Saints, etc really only have two or three great playmakers, one of which is the QB, that they rely on to win their games for them. If the QB or his star receiver has a bad game, they lose. If their star QB or receiver goes down to an injury, they're done for the season. These teams are one-dimensional and are more vulnerable to a fall off in performance over the course of a season.
The Niners on the other hand are a team without an elite QB or a dominant "household name" receiver to run the score up with. Instead they have a deceptively blue collar offense that relies on everyone to contribute to the success of the offense. Same goes for our defense. Except for perhaps Patrick Willis, there are no household names, just a solid unit that plays great football together. If any single player on offense or defense has a bad day, they have their teammates to step up for them and make the play. Football is a TEAM GAME and no team in the NFL is playing as a team better than the 49ers.
Cap all that off with a new and brilliant head coach/playcaller (who's favorite hobby is walking on water
) and you have a recipe for consistent success. I would also acknowledge again that Alex Smith is not an elite QB who's not asked to do much and that he is where he is because of coaching. Because of that, I believe that IF he gets hurt, our second string QB can come in and perform at an equal level to get the job done. In Harbaugh I Trust
The 49ers have far less flaws then the top elite teams. If you shut down Rodgers or Brady they are done. If you shut down Alex Smith, he plays conservative enough to where it wont get that bad, and you still have to deal with our elite running game and defense, and best special teams in the league.
The 49ers have far less flaws then the top elite teams. If you shut down Rodgers or Brady they are done. If you shut down Alex Smith, he plays conservative enough to where it wont get that bad, and you still have to deal with our elite running game and defense, and best special teams in the league.
Listen to yourselves! It's amazing how blind you can get after a 5-1 start! "If you shut down Rodgers or Brady they are done?!" That's a really freaking big if! Take away Alex Smith and you might still survive. Take away Frank Gore and you guys are done. But anyone who knows anything about football knows that the QB is the most important position! It is 10 times easier to shut down Frank Gore than to shut down Rodgers or Brady.
You guys are trying to outdo each other with stupidity.. You finally seem to have a decent coach and you are magically the best team in existence? You are dumber than most Steeler trolls on here..
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I dunno.
I've been a faithful follower since 1989. This team reminds of the great teams of the early 90s. They aren't THAT good, but they don't make mistakes, they force turnovers, and they take advantage of them.
In previous years (last 6-7), the 49ers would always find a way to blow a game, or not take advantage of something. I'm sure you Browns fans can relate since you've had similar seasons. But this year really is different. We aren't lucky. We really are good. Mistakes are rare. I still get the "oh no here it comes, we're gonna blow it" feeling... but it's never happened. Now with swagger and confidence, I really feel like this team can perform at an even higher level.
And the 10-6 record just isn't going to happen. That would mean we have to lose 5 more times. Pick 5:
Cleveland
@ Washington
Giants
Cardinals (Home & Away)
@ Ravens
Rams (Home & Away)
Steelers (Home, Monday Night)
@ Seahawks
@ Ravens is the best chance for a loss. If the Steelers can start playing at a higher level, that might be tough. But it's home and Monday Night, we should win that. Home against the Giants, and a win there gives us the lead for the bye week in the playoffs. 5 divisional games are all winable.
I'll even give you a loss to the Browns. Loss to the Ravens. And either a loss to the Steelers or Giants.
That's 12-4. I just don't see a 10-6 happening at this point.
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That is a good article. SFers seem like the most efficient team right now and looking at the schedule - u guys are surely playoff bound unless u guys disintegrate completely. Good for you guys.
Although i would still take the 'any given Sunday' philosophy and still hope optimistically for the Browns to win. I havent seen enough of the 49ers games nor do I know much about them to really gauge how much of a challenge it will be to overcome you guys.
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Here's my article:
Why the 49ers are Gay
Because their fan base is full of faggots.
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Slim chance of the Niners losing this weekend. Sorry but the browns are not looking good this season. By the way we have a backup quarterback who may not be ready to start but IS able to step in and play good and if not, we have another backup who is better if not as good. Gore goes down and Kendall Hunter will light it up, if he goes down we have Dixon who is good, just not elite. Hypothetical, our QB, star RB, TE and #1 Receiver all go down. We still have 2-3 receiver who play well enough to win, a great RB and good backup RB for that backup, and Delanie Walker (TE) who would probably start for most other teams as well as Kaepernick and Tolzien (I think his name is) to play QB. We would not lose any games because of our losses we would win or lose on the same track. Who else can you hold your head up and say that if they lose their starting QB, #1WR would still win, let alone first string RB and TE. Anybody who knows the 49ers can say this regardless of what team they are a fan of. This time the kool-aid is not poisoned, you can drink the crap out of it because the 49ers are real they are back and they are not going anywhere. Good luck to the Browns and go 49ers!
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Are these people trying to take over the board or what? Seriously, what are you trying to accomplish by posting an article thats so long none of us are going to read it because we DONT CARE?
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The 49ers have far less flaws then the top elite teams. If you shut down Rodgers or Brady they are done. If you shut down Alex Smith, he plays conservative enough to where it wont get that bad, and you still have to deal with our elite running game and defense, and best special teams in the league.
Listen to yourselves! It's amazing how blind you can get after a 5-1 start! "If you shut down Rodgers or Brady they are done?!" That's a really freaking big if! Take away Alex Smith and you might still survive. Take away Frank Gore and you guys are done. But anyone who knows anything about football knows that the QB is the most important position! It is 10 times easier to shut down Frank Gore than to shut down Rodgers or Brady.
You guys are trying to outdo each other with stupidity.. You finally seem to have a decent coach and you are magically the best team in existence? You are dumber than most Steeler trolls on here..
Listen to yourselves! It's amazing how blind you can get after a 5-1 start! "If you shut down Rodgers or Brady they are done?!" That's a really freaking big if! Take away Alex Smith and you might still survive. Take away Frank Gore and you guys are done. But anyone who knows anything about football knows that the QB is the most important position! It is 10 times easier to shut down Frank Gore than to shut down Rodgers or Brady.
You guys are trying to outdo each other with stupidity.. You finally seem to have a decent coach and you are magically the best team in existence? You are dumber than most Steeler trolls on here..
Damn, trying to talk football with you is an... umm... interesting task. Either you haven't read my posts or your reading comprehension is that of a 12 year old.
Maybe it's my fault though. I'm not as eloquent as I could be sometimes.
The point that I've been attempting to make is that the 49ers are less likely to have bad games and therefore are more consistent because they play as a TEAM. There are no superstars they rely on to make every single play. Everyone is involved in their success or failure on any given play/game. This is mostly due to great coaching and flexible, dynamic play calling.
Teams like the Packers and Patriots have AWESOME offenses with two or three great playmakers but are questionable in other areas. They're kinda one-dimensional. You don't necessarily have to "shut them down" because barring injury, you probably won't. Just slow them down a bit with good D, allow ST to give you good field position and let the offense go to work.
The QB IS the most important player on the field. That's football 101. Since I started watching football in the late 70's, I've believed as you do now, that you had to have an elite QB to be successful in the NFL. Watching Harbaugh and this year's Niners has changed my opinion in that department. The QB doesn't have to be a strong armed beast that evades tackles, hits ALL his receivers on every play(though that certainly helps!) and carries the team on his back. The QB only has to be efficient, read defenses well, not turn the ball over and allow his TEAM to make the plays that gets you a 1st down or TD.
Oh and uh... Frank Gore WAS shut down in our first 3 games this season. We still won 2 of those 3 games (BECAUSE WE PLAY AS A TEAM!!!!) and the one we lost, we only BARELY lost in OT.
Try watching some football, stop with the insults and lay off the kool-aid.
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Are these people trying to take over the board or what? Seriously, what are you trying to accomplish by posting an article thats so long none of us are going to read it because we DONT CARE?
Are these people trying to take over the board or what? Seriously, what are you trying to accomplish by posting an article thats so long none of us are going to read it because we DONT CARE?
Oh... pardon me. I thought there were football fans here. I do see a lot of foul mouthed vulgarities and insults so perhaps I stepped into the wrong forum. My bad.
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I just read all the posts. Clearly there is an IQ gap between the two fan bases.
Niner fans: Give in-depth, well thought out arguments as to why we'll win.
Browns fans: "You guys are gay"
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I rest my case
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I just read all the posts. Clearly there is an IQ gap between the two fan bases.
Niner fans: Give in-depth, well thought out arguments as to why we'll win.
Browns fans: "You guys are gay"
.....
I rest my case
I just read all the posts. Clearly there is an IQ gap between the two fan bases.
Niner fans: Give in-depth, well thought out arguments as to why we'll win.
Browns fans: "You guys are gay"
.....
I rest my case
Uh-huh and your response by calling the Browns fan base gay just disqualified you from the in-depth post group. Nice come back flame-boi.
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I just read all the posts. Clearly there is an IQ gap between the two fan bases.
Niner fans: Give in-depth, well thought out arguments as to why we'll win.
Browns fans: "You guys are gay"
.....
I rest my case
Uh-huh and your response by calling the Browns fan base gay just disqualified you from the in-depth post group. Nice come back flame-boi.
I just read all the posts. Clearly there is an IQ gap between the two fan bases.
Niner fans: Give in-depth, well thought out arguments as to why we'll win.
Browns fans: "You guys are gay"
.....
I rest my case
Uh-huh and your response by calling the Browns fan base gay just disqualified you from the in-depth post group. Nice come back flame-boi.
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
He didn't call the Browns fan base gay. Reading comprehesion = FAIL
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I just read all the posts. Clearly there is an IQ gap between the two fan bases.
Niner fans: Give in-depth, well thought out arguments as to why we'll win.
Browns fans: "You guys are gay"
.....
I rest my case
Uh-huh and your response by calling the Browns fan base gay just disqualified you from the in-depth post group. Nice come back flame-boi.
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
He didn't call the Browns fan base gay. Reading comprehesion = FAIL
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
He didn't call the Browns fan base gay. Reading comprehesion = FAIL
Hilarious!!!
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why, why are the niner fans on this board, nobody cares about the niners..I tried to look up thethreads the last time we played the niners and there was no niner fans that came to the board and started all this...
Good luck this week
Everyone on this board thinks you should win this game, but if you over lool the Browns you will lose..Just like the Ravens did against the Jags..
Holy Shit now go away..
One more thing, Do Browns fans go to your board and do the samething??
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why, why are the niner fans on this board, nobody cares about the niners..I tried to look up thethreads the last time we played the niners and there was no niner fans that came to the board and started all this...
Good luck this week
Everyone on this board thinks you should win this game, but if you over lool the Browns you will lose..Just like the Ravens did against the Jags..
Holy Shit now go away..
One more thing, Do Browns fans go to your board and do the samething??
One more thing, Do Browns fans go to your board and do the samething??
Actually they did about 8 years ago. And I know this sounds petty and weird, but listen to the story:
My Niners had just KILLED the Bears in 2003. The following week was the game against the Rams, and freakin Credic Wilson caught the pass that would have setup the field goal to help us win the game and be 2-0 to start the year. But no, he's an idiot, he didn't go down, and then we have no time left on the clock to use our last timeout. We go on to lose in OT. 1-1 instead of 2-0.
The following week was the Browns at home. I remember thinking "good, we'll win this game". And out of freakin nowhere, all these Browns fans joined the forum and trolled us HARDCORE. I remember wondering why because they sucked (0-2 at that point). The game was at home and I was sure of a 49ers win. Wouldn't you know it though, there were more Browns fans in the stadium than 49ers fans for the game. I was livid. When the Browns made plays, the stadium was louder than when the 49ers made plays.
In retrospect, I realize now that there was a huge caravan of fans that came to San Fran, and they were the ones that trolled the forums. Apparently they planned that trip for months in advance.
Browns won 13-12. That game still sticks in my craw. 8 years ago. I had such high expectations for my team that year, but the OT loss, followed by a poor home crowd and loss to the Browns sealed the fate that year. I'll never forget the forums... the horror.... THE HORROR!
You should come troll us again. Would be fun.
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why, why are the niner fans on this board, nobody cares about the niners..I tried to look up thethreads the last time we played the niners and there was no niner fans that came to the board and started all this...
Good luck this week
Everyone on this board thinks you should win this game, but if you over lool the Browns you will lose..Just like the Ravens did against the Jags..
Holy Shit now go away..
One more thing, Do Browns fans go to your board and do the samething??
why, why are the niner fans on this board, nobody cares about the niners..I tried to look up thethreads the last time we played the niners and there was no niner fans that came to the board and started all this...
Good luck this week
Everyone on this board thinks you should win this game, but if you over lool the Browns you will lose..Just like the Ravens did against the Jags..
Holy Shit now go away..
One more thing, Do Browns fans go to your board and do the samething??
I can't speak for the other Niner fans here, but I have accounts on message boards all over the NFL. I like to talk football with opposing fans. My home message board is a bit over moderated and everyone agrees anyway. So it often isn't as much fun.
Of course it seems that no one here can reply with logical football knowledge. It's all gay jokes and insults. But that in itself is kinda funny to read.
Oh yeah, I was on the Dawgtalkers message board but got banned by some kneejerk mod who didn't like my apology for stirring the pot a bit. And it was just stirring the pot... a little football smack talk. No vulgarities or personal attacks were involved in any of my posts.
But feel free to come over to my home board... if you dare. The 49erswebzone.com Forum
Is it Sunday yet???
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One more thing, Do Browns fans go to your board and do the samething??
Actually they did about 8 years ago. And I know this sounds petty and weird, but listen to the story:
My Niners had just KILLED the Bears in 2003. The following week was the game against the Rams, and freakin Credic Wilson caught the pass that would have setup the field goal to help us win the game and be 2-0 to start the year. But no, he's an idiot, he didn't go down, and then we have no time left on the clock to use our last timeout. We go on to lose in OT. 1-1 instead of 2-0.
The following week was the Browns at home. I remember thinking "good, we'll win this game". And out of freakin nowhere, all these Browns fans joined the forum and trolled us HARDCORE. I remember wondering why because they sucked (0-2 at that point). The game was at home and I was sure of a 49ers win. Wouldn't you know it though, there were more Browns fans in the stadium than 49ers fans for the game. I was livid. When the Browns made plays, the stadium was louder than when the 49ers made plays.
In retrospect, I realize now that there was a huge caravan of fans that came to San Fran, and they were the ones that trolled the forums. Apparently they planned that trip for months in advance.
Browns won 13-12. That game still sticks in my craw. 8 years ago. I had such high expectations for my team that year, but the OT loss, followed by a poor home crowd and loss to the Browns sealed the fate that year. I'll never forget the forums... the horror.... THE HORROR!
You should come troll us again. Would be fun.
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First and foremost, I didn't write the article. I only posted it. Therefore no koolaid.
Secondly, Our Offense has scored 15 TDs this year. The Defense has scored 1. ST have scored 2. So no, half our TDs do not come from our D and ST. What our D and ST do is consistently give us good field position and our opponents poor field position.
The stats don't lie and were calculated in exactly the same way for the '11 Niners as the '07 Patriots.
I predict this is only the beginning and the worst the Niners will finish is 13-3. 15-1 is a distinct possibility. My only question is will they be the #1 or #2 seed in the playoffs. I'm not sure that even the Packers can beat us.
First and foremost, I didn't write the article. I only posted it. Therefore no koolaid.
Secondly, Our Offense has scored 15 TDs this year. The Defense has scored 1. ST have scored 2. So no, half our TDs do not come from our D and ST. What our D and ST do is consistently give us good field position and our opponents poor field position.
The stats don't lie and were calculated in exactly the same way for the '11 Niners as the '07 Patriots.
I predict this is only the beginning and the worst the Niners will finish is 13-3. 15-1 is a distinct possibility. My only question is will they be the #1 or #2 seed in the playoffs. I'm not sure that even the Packers can beat us.
I will say 11-5 because you have a number of bad teams in your division. Plus, you still have to play the Steelers and Ravens....whom, by the way, I would be glad if you handle them. But I am not predicting that you will. Nevertheless, no other team in that division will approach a .500 record.
All you have to do is get in. Anything can happen from there. And y'all are pretty much already in.
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