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Try For Cohesion And Keep Mccoy, Or Blow It Up Again And Draft A Qb?

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  • Screw Chuck Noll. Screw Pisspuke.

  • As much as I've absolutely hated McCoy over the last couple weeks, watching the game today made me realize one thing.

    It's not his fault.

    It's the shit offensive system we're running. There's no rhythm, no cohesion. Everybody is off. This system they're trying to implement is either too confusing, or just too simple. Either our players aren't understanding it, or it's so simple that opposing teams can find it's weakness on three days of practice.

    All this system is is a dink and dunk passing game, coupled with a "three yard and a cloud of dust" running mentality. There's no explosive plays, nothing to stretch the field. There's no imagination whatsoever in the mind of Pat "Aw shucks" Shurmer. No creativeness flowing. He's a blank shell, an empty headed shitsucker.

    There's a trend developing of our offense playing like shit in the first three quarters, then turning it on late in the fourth quarter. The reason for this is: once we get into the hurry up situation, Colt's calling most of the plays from the line. He's not being fed the bland, unimaginative shite that Shurmer keeps calling week in and week out. If I see one more slant, I'm going to vomit.

    Also, once we get in the hurry up situations, Colt drops into shotgun, where he seems infinitely more comfortable.

    Mangini and Co., no matter what anybody wants to say about them, realized Colt's strengths and played to them. Colt's not a Pro Set QB. He looks lost on his three and five step drops. He's uncomfortable in the pocket and his timing is off. But once he's thrown into shotgun, he looks like a completely different QB.

    It's time to swallow your pride and switch the offensive system, Walrus. The WCO isn't working, or at least Shurmer's version isnt'. Get your fat ass out of the booth and onto the field during the week. Do what you did best, teach.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    As much as I've absolutely hated McCoy over the last couple weeks, watching the game today made me realize one thing.

    It's not his fault.

    It's the shit offensive system we're running. There's no rhythm, no cohesion. Everybody is off. This system they're trying to implement is either too confusing, or just too simple. Either our players aren't understanding it, or it's so simple that opposing teams can find it's weakness on three days of practice.

    All this system is is a dink and dunk passing game, coupled with a "three yard and a cloud of dust" running mentality. There's no explosive plays, nothing to stretch the field. There's no imagination whatsoever in the mind of Pat "Aw shucks" Shurmer. No creativeness flowing. He's a blank shell, an empty headed shitsucker.

    There's a trend developing of our offense playing like shit in the first three quarters, then turning it on late in the fourth quarter. The reason for this is: once we get into the hurry up situation, Colt's calling most of the plays from the line. He's not being fed the bland, unimaginative shite that Shurmer keeps calling week in and week out. If I see one more slant, I'm going to vomit.

    Also, once we get in the hurry up situations, Colt drops into shotgun, where he seems infinitely more comfortable.

    Mangini and Co., no matter what anybody wants to say about them, realized Colt's strengths and played to them. Colt's not a Pro Set QB. He looks lost on his three and five step drops. He's uncomfortable in the pocket and his timing is off. But once he's thrown into shotgun, he looks like a completely different QB.

    It's time to swallow your pride and switch the offensive system, Walrus. The WCO isn't working, or at least Shurmer's version isnt'. Get your fat ass out of the booth and onto the field during the week. Do what you did best, teach.

    This is spot on. Great call.

  • gruden just inked a new 5 year deal with espn.

  • @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    You kond of answer your own questions, no?

    1) The Bengals didn't seem to have a problem keeping things moving forward, did they? They got a QB and a major WR talent. Same OL, same everything....... Wham, they are winning.

    2) This board is FILLED with threds about how now that the Steeler OL is decimaed, Big Ben will be exposed as the loser he is. BZZZZZZZT. NEWSFLASH............. Makeshift OL translates into 426 yards and a major thumping of the Patriots. Why? Simple.... WR's, RBs and a QB who helped the D stay fresh by holding on to the ball and wearing out the opposition.

    3)Colt is a dud. You know it, I know it and everyone we play knows it.

    The sad part of this is, we have very little talent. Having a good defense, which we DO, is not going to win many ball games. Without offense to pump emotion into a team and keep everyone believing, what you get is the same crap Lerner has been putting on the table.

    You know why the Squealers and Rapisburger were able to hang 426 yards on the Patriots? The Patriots defense SUCKS. Dead last in the NFL. Even Brady apologized that "we couldn't keep up with them in the scoring department" Defense wins championships, always has, always will.

    Patience Tom, playmakers are on the agenda- next season.

  • The Browns have a QB! McCoy can be a good one if the front office would ever get their heads out of their rears!!! The plan shouldn't be to blow it up and change QB's every other year, you have to put weapons together for him. The browns don't have a WR or TE that could start on a good High School team and the RB's seem not to care anymore!

    @venom said:

    The Browns have a QB! McCoy can be a good one if the front office would ever get their heads out of their rears!!! The plan shouldn't be to blow it up and change QB's every other year, you have to put weapons together for him. The browns don't have a WR or TE that could start on a good High School team and the RB's seem not to care anymore!

    Our TE's are actually very good. And while we have no true #1 WR just yet MoMass, Little, and Cribbs have all be decent. Little has potential to be a stud. The problem is our terrible QB who people love to make excuses for.

    Tom Brady would make Cribbs, Little, and MoMass look like pro bowlers.

    Much like he made Deion Branch, David Givens, and Troy Brown look like pro bowlers.

  • I really don't think McCoy is that bad. He was just rushed into starting. I think he needed a year or two to learn, then become a starter. Some QB's today actually need a lil development out of college. Not everyone is a Big Ben!!!

  • @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    You kond of answer your own questions, no?

    1) The Bengals didn't seem to have a problem keeping things moving forward, did they? They got a QB and a major WR talent. Same OL, same everything....... Wham, they are winning.

    2) This board is FILLED with threds about how now that the Steeler OL is decimaed, Big Ben will be exposed as the loser he is. BZZZZZZZT. NEWSFLASH............. Makeshift OL translates into 426 yards and a major thumping of the Patriots. Why? Simple.... WR's, RBs and a QB who helped the D stay fresh by holding on to the ball and wearing out the opposition.

    3)Colt is a dud. You know it, I know it and everyone we play knows it.

    The sad part of this is, we have very little talent. Having a good defense, which we DO, is not going to win many ball games. Without offense to pump emotion into a team and keep everyone believing, what you get is the same crap Lerner has been putting on the table.

    Dude, I know you love the Browns, but open your eyes. We are $$$ MILLIONS under the cap, and INSTEAD of drfting Julio Jones, we moved down and took an DT that we could have duplicated in rounds 2 - 4.

    BAD management, all the way around.

    Hey fool, get with the program. Drafting Julio Jones would not have made a difference in Colt doesnt have time to throw the ball. And if my memory serves correctly hasn't Julio Jones been injured? Phil Taylor has done a grat job, and now we have 2 first rounds for next year. Get a clue before you post in here. You look like a fool.

  • @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    Dude,

    you are discussing a point that Holmgren ALREADY answered.

    He said............ McCOy WILL NOT BE THE QB in 2012.

    NOw, to some of you idiots, you are going to jump and and say ( feminine voice) Show me, Ghoolie, Show me............. Show me where he said that.

    Oh, I forgot, you dumb shit's can't read between the lines and need to be spoon fed..........

    Okay, let me set it up for you.............

    What Holmgren said was " McCoy is still being evaluated, and we will draft a QB every year until we get the right one.

    Translation....????? It is what you numbnuts don't want to hear. The Browns winning for 2011 is about done. 3 - 13 looks quite probable and surely anything above 5 -11 is IMPOSSIBLE.

    Holmgren already let that cat out of the bag. McCoy is done, stick a fork in him.

    No he didn't. he never said Colt wouldn't be the QB in 2012. Please show me where he said that. He said Colt will be starter for the remainder of this year and then they will evaluate everything from there. Your an idiot.

  • Your a xxxxing idiot. You said Holmghren said McCoy was gone in 2012. No he didn't. I want proof he said that. And you can not supply it. Typical troll. Go xxxx yourself ass wipe.

  • mikeyP72 said:

    Deep down I really think McCoy can do it. Get him a Alshon Jeffrey or Justin Blackmon to put next to Little and Cribbs.

    meh....whose gonna threaten to actually throw the ball deep? noodles sure as hell isnt....

    just get the kid a shake weight for the offseason....and teach him how to throw a spiral.

  • mikeyP72 said:

    If the Browns had a player LIKE Julio Jones it might make defenses think twice about bringing 7 rushers...

    False. Dude has the same stats as Greg Little.