Our 80 Million Dollar Oline
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Rich, I gave you every first round pick the Browns have had- since '99, (three OL by my count) and I gave you reasons why every OL pickup failed, bad management on the releases, and bringing in guys that were a year or two from collecting Social Security.
The Browns have stunk since '99 because the position players drafted in the first round have busted BIG TIME in Cleveland. Joe Thomas is the only unqualified success in 13 years, and that's not even close to good enough to field a competitive team. If you can't get a great player at least 50% of the time in the first round, you're doomed to fail.
You are getting there Larry, I agree with most of what you said. The key is getting great players and all the great players on offense touch the ball.................and that is where you miss it, it takes five lineman to block and even if you got the five best in the league and you got squat at skill positions those five will be considered horrible, just like our five now
You are getting there Larry, I agree with most of what you said. The key is getting great players and all the great players on offense touch the ball.................and that is where you miss it, it takes five lineman to block and even if you got the five best in the league and you got squat at skill positions those five will be considered horrible, just like our five now
Glad to all you behemoths of OL supremacy could never retort why OL changes week by week and the OL that starts the season never ends the season and that the same QB's always end up in the playoffs and the those superior D's that lose the Super Bowl give up 31 points a game ;...........................................
and not a single objective argument was ever presented.................just subjective cool aid Bs
so in the end Rich wins again.................Offense wins games and the QB is all important as is his skill players, and defense does not but helps keep you in games.....................and OH YEAH....................The OL IS "dime a dozen""""""""""""
boom won again, with not a single stat based post to counter.................only hate and rhetoric and subjectiveness
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well, where is the logical and fact filled counter.
you guys again quit with the logic and reality gets tough
losers
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well, where is the logical and fact filled counter.
you guys again quit with the logic and reality gets tough
losers
well, where is the logical and fact filled counter.
you guys again quit with the logic and reality gets tough
losers
Sorry Rich- posted it in another thread. Just tired of beating (our) collective heads against the brick wall that surrounds your cranium. I'm done debating you- it's pointless. Insanity is repeating the same (failed) process over and over and expecting a different result. Fact of the matter is:
#1 RICH IS ALWAYS RIGHT.
#2 IF RICH IS WRONG, REFER TO #1.
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Grinder said:
Everyone is a winner on the shortbus isn't that right richey? The short bus even comes in your favorite colors piss and black.
look! richey pimped his rideyur post was so great , devoid of football, big on personal attacks on me and best yet ..................NO CONTENT..........you are what you are a vacuum of knowledge
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well, where is the logical and fact filled counter.
you guys again quit with the logic and reality gets tough
losers
Sorry Rich- posted it in another thread. Just tired of beating (our) collective heads against the brick wall that surrounds your cranium. I'm done debating you- it's pointless. Insanity is repeating the same (failed) process over and over and expecting a different result. Fact of the matter is:
#1 RICH IS ALWAYS RIGHT.
#2 IF RICH IS WRONG, REFER TO #1.
Sorry Rich- posted it in another thread. Just tired of beating (our) collective heads against the brick wall that surrounds your cranium. I'm done debating you- it's pointless. Insanity is repeating the same (failed) process over and over and expecting a different result. Fact of the matter is:
#1 RICH IS ALWAYS RIGHT.
#2 IF RICH IS WRONG, REFER TO #1.
Sorry Larry me wanting winning has lost to the losing of your less than adequate ideology, and that of brownsfans, keep promoting the losing and stonewall my winning
good job wanting to keep losing
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Jeezus Christ- do you have a reading comprehension problem or what? I F**cking gave you a blow by blow description of the Browns first round "playmaker" busts- AND o-line pickups- would you like me to go into the second and third round busts starting with Travis Wilson and Charlie Frye- in case you can't it through your fat head why the Browns have sucked?
Rich, this may be the last time I answer you in this thread. I'm a freaking scientist. I gave you a virtual player by player break down why the Browns O-line picks failed (except Wollabaugh). You're either not reading the posts, or you have your head stuck so far up your a$ on this it won't matter what I say. Ignorance is bliss.
So here's the scientific analogy of your argument.
"On a clear day, the sky is pink."
"Rich, the sky is blue."
"No it isn't, and I can prove it."
"Really?"
"You see, if I look through my narrow band glasses that only see from the 650 to 700 nanometer band, the sky is most certainly pink."
Pick up your football Rich, declare victory- (gee I think you did that once- legend in your own mind) even though you've been beaten into oblivion by facts- (& sorry about your obvious factual errors- have been pointed out more than once) and come back after Rothlisberger is on IR when his o-line can't protect him anymore.
Seriously, start trolling Steelers boards and tell Homotron, Endymion, and Galfreets O-line are "Dime a Dozen" and see how far you get there, you'll get laughed off their boards too. I dare you- and I'm waiting for the link and their response.
Jesus H, Larry dont you ever read, comprehend, or reason? I present a detailed argurment and you discard it. You never answered my lengthy post, instead you went into denial about reality.We stink because we have failed to focus on getting what wins, and that is playmakers who touch the ball. When you fill that need the five OL guys will perform and if you dont they will stink and that is why they are a dime a dozen. It is easy to find lineman, hard to find an AJ Green hard to find a Ben Roethlisberger, hard to find an Adrian Peterson, the latter two we passed on to get a lineman and hot head
And please do not spout conventional wisdom about OL here or elsewhere, I clearly understand where the herd is coming from. That does not mean any of you get it, Bill Belichick gets it, the Steelers Mgt gets it, the average fan is just another member of the herd, just like you and swills whatever cool the media feeds them. I get it Larry you dont, you should starting listening instead dissing
By the way Larry, I am an engineer and have a masters degree and actually got things done big time, so dont preach about being a scientist, a scientist hypothesizes how drinking cool aid is good, and engineer puts rubber to the road and makes it work. A great engineer disputes conventional wisdom and makes the next big thing and better, and I did that, and I am trying to get a few of you get the same about football.. So dont get pissed at me, rather scientifically try to adjust your thinking out of the box instead being confined to wrong headed thinking
By the way Larry, I am an engineer and have a masters degree and actually got things done big time, so dont preach about being a scientist, a scientist hypothesizes how drinking cool aid is good, and engineer puts rubber to the road and makes it work.
so when did you become an engineer while swabbin the deck of the S.S. MINNOW?
engineer, astronaut, UFC champion, dick.....wow, you've been around (at least that's what i've heard).
either you are a senile old man trying to live a reoccuring dream or you're a little putz crankin it in his grandma's root cellar.
and engineer puts rubber to the road and makes it work.
and i thought you only liked rubber in your mouth and ass.
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@junkyard-dawg said:
It's the former, mixed with the latter. He's a senile old trailer park Stool fan living this internet life where he's a millionaire Engineer that kicks peoples asses and was the one guy Paul Brown begged to play for Cleveland. Reality is he's a typical minimum wage loser tugging his two incher in the singlewide to his Pig Ben fathead.
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You children are funny did you learn that at Gymboree???
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