Hillis Re-Injures Hamstring
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I guarantee this Hamstring injury is bullshit. His teammates know it, the coaches know it. Put him on injured reserve.
Jump to conclusions much? It's just an article designed to get everyone riled up (looks like it worked!). The hamstring injury isn't fake. You can't just accept everything in that article as fact. All of the sources were so vague (this veteran, that veteran) it's hard to take it seriously. I realize Hillis has made plenty of mistakes this year, but faking an injury isn't one of them. He has had hamstring problems in the past. And any athlete knows not playing due to an injury isn't going to lead to a new contract. The Browns want him to prove that he isn't a one year wonder, and other teams around the league won't want to sign him to a big contract if he is injury prone. He has also tried to practice with it a few times and re-aggravated the injury. Read the articles where it tells how he threw down his helmet in frustration after another setback. It would also be extremely hard to fake an injury around professional trainers. Too many facts against your theory..
Jump to conclusions much? It's just an article designed to get everyone riled up (looks like it worked!). The hamstring injury isn't fake. You can't just accept everything in that article as fact. All of the sources were so vague (this veteran, that veteran) it's hard to take it seriously. I realize Hillis has made plenty of mistakes this year, but faking an injury isn't one of them. He has had hamstring problems in the past. And any athlete knows not playing due to an injury isn't going to lead to a new contract. The Browns want him to prove that he isn't a one year wonder, and other teams around the league won't want to sign him to a big contract if he is injury prone. He has also tried to practice with it a few times and re-aggravated the injury. Read the articles where it tells how he threw down his helmet in frustration after another setback. It would also be extremely hard to fake an injury around professional trainers. Too many facts against your theory..
Good post. Makes a lot of sense, couldn't agree more. I think dude is just having a really bad string of luck. He's a pro, I don't think its in his nature to fake a bunch of crap. Sh*t happens
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Article in PD says some teammates sat down with Hillis Wednesday to vent their displeasure with how He's handeling things...
Supposedly Joe Thomas was one of them... Thought he should have been rehabing instead of getting married in mid season...
It's not the Madden curse, it's just that the whole Madden thing went to his head.. Sort of like the peter principle (you get promoted to your level of incompetance)....
If he's not going to be healthy put him on IR and be done with him... We have some games coming up against the Bengals, Ravens and pittspuke so lets get our ducks in order and have players on the field that can play...
Side note: seems it was Mary Kay that broke the story(s)... I swear she has a love jones on Payton............
Peace
T.Dawg
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Article in PD says some teammates sat down with Hillis Wednesday to vent their displeasure with how He's handeling things...
Supposedly Joe Thomas was one of them... Thought he should have been rehabing instead of getting married in mid season...
It's not the Madden curse, it's just that the whole Madden thing went to his head.. Sort of like the peter principle (you get promoted to your level of incompetance)....
If he's not going to be healthy put him on IR and be done with him... We have some games coming up against the Bengals, Ravens and pittspuke so lets get our ducks in order and have players on the field that can play...
Side note: seems it was Mary Kay that broke the story(s)... I swear she has a love jones on Payton............
Peace
T.Dawg
It's not the Madden curse, it's just that the whole Madden thing went to his head.. Sort of like the peter principle (you get promoted to your level of incompetance)....
madden curse takes many forms.........sometimes a blown achilles..........sometimes an overblown ego.
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Gafreleets, I'll buy that...
Seems He's changed 180 degrees from last year...
Peace
T.Dawg
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I heard he apologized for missing that Boys and Girls club event.
That was low class to just not show up. I'm agreeing with Daddybull - put him on IR and move on.
They will need to develop their offense without him, ... and the Browns will surely draft a major rb next draft.
Or, they can just trade him now. Whatever. Pretty much a disaster for anyone who bought his jersey, eh?
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I heard he apologized for missing that Boys and Girls club event.
That was low class to just not show up. I'm agreeing with Daddybull - put him on IR and move on.
They will need to develop their offense without him, ... and the Browns will surely draft a major rb next draft.
Or, they can just trade him now. Whatever. Pretty much a disaster for anyone who bought his jersey, eh?
I heard he apologized for missing that Boys and Girls club event.
That was low class to just not show up. I'm agreeing with Daddybull - put him on IR and move on.
They will need to develop their offense without him, ... and the Browns will surely draft a major rb next draft.
Or, they can just trade him now. Whatever. Pretty much a disaster for anyone who bought his jersey, eh?
Trade deadline already passed so that isn't an option right now. But why does everyone keep saying to put Hillis on the IR? What would that accomplish?
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Madden curse is for faggots. Its the NFL. Everyone gets injured.
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It is funny that no body wants to point a finger at the medical staff. It is easy to re aggravate a hamstring injury.
I dont think Hillis is faking it. It would be an ultimate PR disaster in a year where he needs to display his talent if he wants to get paid big money.
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I'm fine with it. I've been having a feeling lately that we're going to draft Trent Richardson out of Alabama. So I'm content. We're going no where this year, so might as well try to get some sweet draft picks.
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It is funny that no body wants to point a finger at the medical staff. It is easy to re aggravate a hamstring injury.
I dont think Hillis is faking it. It would be an ultimate PR disaster in a year where he needs to display his talent if he wants to get paid big money.
It is funny that no body wants to point a finger at the medical staff. It is easy to re aggravate a hamstring injury.
I dont think Hillis is faking it. It would be an ultimate PR disaster in a year where he needs to display his talent if he wants to get paid big money.
Exactly. every game Hillis misses is costing him serious coin next year.
I won't guess what the Browns might offer next year, but it's getting less and less every game. His dumb a$$ agent should sign him now for whatever he can get. Damaged goods rbs get offered vet minimum on the FA market.
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mikeyP72 said:
Reading this thread makes me realize i hate people.
you? this post?h
man come to nyc and hang out for a day where cyouan walk up and down the street saying hi to everyone.....and you get squadoosh for an answer.1 out of 12 people might say something to you but most of that is nasty garble.[
give me the big-hearted mofos from ohio/ iowa/some where WE where THE SHIT ACTUASLL MRASNS SOOEMTHING TO PROPKLR.]BTW WAY HAVING TH4E LASR
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Well all you peeps that hurried to put him on the cover of Madden. Hope your all happy now,,,,peace!
Well all you peeps that hurried to put him on the cover of Madden. Hope your all happy now,,,,peace!
You're 13 years old, an idiot, or both.
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You're 13 years old, an idiot, or both.
Chances are Im probably older than you are junior.
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Ahh yes...the point in the season where frustrations rise and we all start calling each other idiots, dolts, morons, simpletons, nimrods,aholes, etc, etc.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
mikeyP72 said:
Reading this thread makes me realize i hate people.
you? this post?h
man come to nyc and hang out for a day where cyouan walk up and down the street saying hi to everyone.....and you get squadoosh for an answer.1 out of 12 people might say something to you but most of that is nasty garble.[
give me the big-hearted mofos from ohio/ iowa/some where WE where THE SHIT ACTUASLL MRASNS SOOEMTHING TO PROPKLR.]BTW WAY HAVING TH4E LASR
you? this post?h
man come to nyc and hang out for a day where cyouan walk up and down the street saying hi to everyone.....and you get squadoosh for an answer.1 out of 12 people might say something to you but most of that is nasty garble.[
give me the big-hearted mofos from ohio/ iowa/some where WE where THE SHIT ACTUASLL MRASNS SOOEMTHING TO PROPKLR.]BTW WAY HAVING TH4E LASR
How's that 151 bro?
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Ahh yes...the point in the season where frustrations rise and we all start calling each other idiots, dolts, morons, simpletons, nimrods,aholes, etc, etc.
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I guarantee this Hamstring injury is bullshit. His teammates know it, the coaches know it. Put him on injured reserve.
Jump to conclusions much? It's just an article designed to get everyone riled up (looks like it worked!). The hamstring injury isn't fake. You can't just accept everything in that article as fact. All of the sources were so vague (this veteran, that veteran) it's hard to take it seriously. I realize Hillis has made plenty of mistakes this year, but faking an injury isn't one of them. He has had hamstring problems in the past. And any athlete knows not playing due to an injury isn't going to lead to a new contract. The Browns want him to prove that he isn't a one year wonder, and other teams around the league won't want to sign him to a big contract if he is injury prone. He has also tried to practice with it a few times and re-aggravated the injury. Read the articles where it tells how he threw down his helmet in frustration after another setback. It would also be extremely hard to fake an injury around professional trainers. Too many facts against your theory..
Jump to conclusions much? It's just an article designed to get everyone riled up (looks like it worked!). The hamstring injury isn't fake. You can't just accept everything in that article as fact. All of the sources were so vague (this veteran, that veteran) it's hard to take it seriously. I realize Hillis has made plenty of mistakes this year, but faking an injury isn't one of them. He has had hamstring problems in the past. And any athlete knows not playing due to an injury isn't going to lead to a new contract. The Browns want him to prove that he isn't a one year wonder, and other teams around the league won't want to sign him to a big contract if he is injury prone. He has also tried to practice with it a few times and re-aggravated the injury. Read the articles where it tells how he threw down his helmet in frustration after another setback. It would also be extremely hard to fake an injury around professional trainers. Too many facts against your theory..
totally agree, and most Browns fans here and elsewhere are proving to be as fickle as ever. dude has been a stand up person up til now and highly religious taboot. nothing about the guy's history leads me to believe he is faking anything and people just don't change overnight.
i have a much easier time believing his integrity is in conflict with the new head coach and management. i can relate to having falling outs with bosses that have crippled my company growth so maybe i'm biased...or maybe i'm just empathetic.
granted, most signs pointed to him being a Fangini last year and playing through anything he possibly could but it seems this year football is more of a job to him, as it is to 99% of NFL players.
at the start it sounded to me like he was legitimately sick as a dog from the strep and had little to gain by compromising his health playing (600K / 16 = $37,500 per game!-WACK), so he took his agent's advice--as many in his situation would--and was benched for it by a boss on an ego trip with an axe to grind.
then, he pulls a hammy(!). instead of allowing it to heal in due time he may have been ushered back into service too soon by the same powers that be...and reinjures it AGAIN, which would account for his on-field frustration and helmet slam episode.
we're talking millions of dollars at stake here, let's cut him a little slack for pete's sake. he was the sole offensive catalyst last year, allowing them to win at least 4 additional games...or have we forgotten already? no way Hardesty could have filled that role in his stead.
talking heads can spin situations any way they wish to suit their purposes, and promises of exclusive access can get journalists to do very unscrupulous things. Hillis deserves more love than this. i had a friend who was once falsely accused of rape by his ex (i was there for it all and it was SUPER fuqd up) and i have seen how quickly life can tailspin when someone with an agenda decides to play games with someone else's life and livelihood. personally i will reserve judgement until we get some straight talk.
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Article in PD says some teammates sat down with Hillis Wednesday to vent their displeasure with how He's handeling things...
Supposedly Joe Thomas was one of them... Thought he should have been rehabing instead of getting married in mid season...
It's not the Madden curse, it's just that the whole Madden thing went to his head.. Sort of like the peter principle (you get promoted to your level of incompetance)....
If he's not going to be healthy put him on IR and be done with him... We have some games coming up against the Bengals, Ravens and pittspuke so lets get our ducks in order and have players on the field that can play...
Side note: seems it was Mary Kay that broke the story(s)... I swear she has a love jones on Payton............
Peace
T.Dawg
Article in PD says some teammates sat down with Hillis Wednesday to vent their displeasure with how He's handeling things...
Supposedly Joe Thomas was one of them... Thought he should have been rehabing instead of getting married in mid season...
It's not the Madden curse, it's just that the whole Madden thing went to his head.. Sort of like the peter principle (you get promoted to your level of incompetance)....
If he's not going to be healthy put him on IR and be done with him... We have some games coming up against the Bengals, Ravens and pittspuke so lets get our ducks in order and have players on the field that can play...
Side note: seems it was Mary Kay that broke the story(s)... I swear she has a love jones on Payton............
Peace
T.Dawg
red = speculation
re: "displeasure with how He's handeling things"
i didn't take that from the article at all and i think you're reading into it T Dawg. as vague as it was, it clearly said the subject matter was ALL POSITIVE.
this is pure speculation (as was yours) but it may have simply been sage advice that YOU CAN'T FIGHT CITY HALL and some tips regarding better PR choices to help finesse and spin it back his way while relieving the rest of the team of the constant barrage of "Hillis questions".
considering he's at a tipping point in a contract year and presently a lot of money is stood to be gained or lost (and things are now beginning to look badly) it's highly likely teammates and friends might offer their help right now...especially if he is obviously down in the dumps and may feel like the Head Coach, &/or President, &/or GM seem(s) out to get him. it goes without saying the powers that be are solely looking out for their best interests and not his.
after last year's effort i certainly can't fault him for doing the same, and i assume the "intervention" (bullshit label) involved offering some experience and wisdom in an effective way to go about it.
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