Shurmur

[tampadawgs]

I for one was like a lot of people, not wanting to fire EM. We we fired EM our special teams coach also left. He now is in San Fran doing wonders over there. I have did not understand the Shurmer hire, a part of me thinks he is just here for a year to put the system in, and then Holgrem will bring in the head coach he wanted along. With the lock out there was nobody he wanted. Just what a part of me thinks..

As for Holgrem, yes I do support Mike. Has he made mistake sure..Not signing Vickers, and maybe Shurmer. The whole signing free agents and drafting Jones blah,blah,blah...

1. you have to have free agents that want to come here.

2. looks like Mike and our front office was looking to upgrade our defense in there first two drafts, thats the way they went. Fine with me.

Everybody wants Colt to get benched, you can not blame him for today!!! We have A LOT MORE ISSUES THAN COLT ON OFFENSE...Again not a Colt fan do not like him at all, but that kid got killed today....

The one thing I do not understand, is that when your team does not have the talent on offense, why do you kee[p doing the samething..This year is not a extended 16 games of pre-season..You play to win. Do I believe the players our out there to win..Some Sure I do..

Dear Shurmer,

When you are down to your 4th and 5th running backs that are small and quick, you get these guys out in space!!!! you ran two screen passes in this game. what happen?? They both went for 15 yrds each! Aslo Mr. Shurmer, if you do not take chances down the field the Defense will put all 11 defenders 10-12 yrds from the LOS, this will get you QB killed, ask Colt the man will be feeling today forthe next couple of days.

Shurmer need figure it out quick please, I do not want to be a Goolie or a Rich...

[miktoxic]

mikeyP72 said:

It's hilarious. All of this.

Fire him now, hire someone else and install a new system. By OTA's next year we should be good.

We'd be as far along in the new system for next week than we are in this bastardized WCO we're running now.

so, what's the solution then mike? let's just roll with this?

it's like rolling off the used car lot with the guys smiling at you and waving and your tire is about to fall off. just keep driving?

[tampadawgs]

FYI if they fired Shurmer tomorrow, and had Juron take over the rest of the yr. It would not set us back anymore than we already are. If tehy did that, that would mean they have some ready togo ASAP..

Now I AM NOT SAYING FIRE SHURMER, but fact is if they did, it would not hurt us as much as people think

[dj_illness]

don't kid youselves.

Daboll effing sucks worse than Schumur.

Don't lift him up as an example because he won one game this year.

atrocious.

[choco]

@dawg08 said:

The problem is that when they fire an incompetent coach, they go out an sign a more incompetent coach!!

and here everyone, is the winning answer.

[Mr. T]

Fire him NOW!

A good coach doesn't play a system, they create and call plays to get the best out of their talent. Example 3rd and 2 and we run flood routes all to the same side with not one route more than 5 yards and the ball is dropped on a quik out.

This guy makes me sick every Sunday watching the crap he throws out on the field. I didn't even watch the whole game today I went to Myrtle Beach with the wife and when I got back I started watching the recording. Thank God I didn't waste my afternoon watching this crap! It made me sick knowing that any good high school coach would beat his ass any day of the week.

Atleast under Mangini it was fun to watch some smash mouth football while our team was still in the game after the 1st quarter.

[miktoxic]

exactly.

got the nbc football game of the sunday night and watching 2 teams that are actually motivated to play.

a little scatback like ray rice breaking thru the steelers DLine? linebackers and OLmen punching each other. players that want to win?

big difference from what i've seen from the browns in about 20 years.

disgraceful.

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

Ghoolie, can the shit. Obama is going to be president for another 4 years, so shut the xxxx up already and go back to picketing soldier's funerals along with the rest of the Westboro Baptist Church.

We're all tired of your blowhard bullshit. Just shut the xxxx up already.

[Hunt Daddy]

I seriously have a feeling we're going to get news Monday that Shurmur is gone.

[miktoxic]

@dj_illness said:

don't kid youselves.

Daboll effing sucks worse than Schumur.

Don't lift him up as an example because he won one game this year.

atrocious.

nobody is saying that. wow. did the smarm just go way over your head?

yeah it did.

look in the rear view. sarcasm is about a mile back.

and no, shurmur RIGHT NOW does NOT look better than daboll on his worse day.

how about a fake field goal when you know your team is about 38 points less dangerous than your opponent, huh, mr. genious?

[choco]

@hunt-daddy said:

I seriously have a feeling we're going to get news Monday that Shurmur is gone.

browns never have that kind of luck....

fatass will stick to his guns and say pretty words to shut everyone up.

[b86b]

anyone else notice that Fouts kept stating that there are no "hot routes" in this offense to help Colt out when the blitz is coming?? how can this be?

[Kosar_For_President]

Cowher.

[Loyalty]

@hunt-daddy said:

I seriously have a feeling we're going to get news Monday that Shurmur is gone.

Shurmur looks like Mangini looked a couple years ago with his hat on sideways and his hands on his sides. Looking

like a little fat kid that just got his dinner taken away.

The difference is that Shurmur isn't fat... he is just Retarded.

[nickers]

@miktoxic said:

and now all the old "i was never in favor firing mangini" mugs come on here and say "oh i never wanted that" when they were the ones screaming for his head.

how do you feel now, Aholes?

daboll (even though i don't like him) today looked like a genius play-caller. mangini on espn within 30 secs of analyzing a game makes holgren AND shurmur look like nose-pickin scrubs that got lucky by association.

c'mon geniuses, where you at? remember i got a list of all you mofos. start eatin' it.

I hated Mangina the day they hired him and I still hate his conservative approach...you can have him

[1 more season]

@nickers said:

I hated Mangina the day they hired him and I still hate his conservative approach...you can have him

Roger that. Talk about looking back with rose colored glasses. Have you forgotten the 1-11 mangini start followed up with duel 5-11's? He is good at what he is doing now. Talking about football just like the rest of us.

[USFBrown]

Did you guys forget that we didn't have a cupcake shit eater schedule last season with Mangini like we do now?

Did you Retards forget he was using Jake Del xxxxing Homme, Seneca Wallace, and rookie QB all with ankle injuries?

Did you ftards forget that we were in nearly every game last season and lost most by less than a touchdown?

Well, I know the record was still shit but Mangini did much better with less than. The team was motivated, played hard, and didn't lose games on the second play of the game. You all cry give this Bozo head coach time but everyone wanted Mangini's head when he had the team playing way above their potential (albeit still losing but not losing like we are now).

This team is a pile of dog shit compared to what Mangini had going.

[1 more season]

KGL-Rich-USFBrown......

What is this more with less stuff? I wanted mangini gone and never liked the hire and glad he's gone. In the NFL it's about wins no loss means more than another there is no voting.

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

xxxx this "it's all about wins" argument. We all understand a coach is judged by his record. That's clear.

But if you can honestly sit there and say this product we're watching every week is better than or even the same as what we had last year, then you are delusional.

You want to talk about wins? Put this team up against Mangini's team and Mangini's wins 11 of 10 times.

I am absolutely 100% against the coaching carousel that's been in place in Cleveland since the Browns retuned. But Shurmur may very well be the worst HC we've had. He's over his head, and his "WCO" is dated and completely ineffective. It's been proven week after week. He was only hired because of his uncle, and his extremely moderate success with what most considered the most NFL-ready QB from the last couple drafts.

Shurmur is in over his head. It's plain fact. We can sit here and point fingers at Colt or the OL or Hillis or the WR but a good coach wins with whatever talent he has. That's what makes him a good coach. With this offense, bringing in every FA in the offseason wouldn't have done us jack shit.

Shurmur has eeked out wins over the three worst teams in the league, all the while showing his complete lack of ability to change or adapt. If you want to talk about wins, talk about that. He's trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

We will not win with Shurmur at HC. We'll never reach full potential with this awful offensive system in place. Don't be surprised if Holmgren is our HC by week 15.

[choco]

@nickers said:

I hated Mangina the day they hired him and I still hate his conservative approach...you can have him

its offense baby! right? well, hows this offense doin ya? good thing we have a coaching staff and FO that know about that facet of the game...right?

lmao...you hate mangini's conservative approach? you gotta be loving shurmurs!