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Lerner says Job is Pioli's

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  • I'm surprised Spagnoulo isn't getting more love. He gameplanned the Giants to the Super Bowl and had more to do with that victory than anyone. Then he lost two key pieces to his D and has motivated them to continue to thrive.

    That being said, I also like Schwartz.

    CHANGE IS GOOD

  • 2 thumbs down for a misleading post.

    "Authority is not the truth, truth is the authority." http://www.barkinghard.com/forums
  • B BigBrownsFan

    I could live with Schwartz....

    Who do we get as OC? Does Chud get another run at this? I would rather run a clean slate - and ship Tucker back to OSU or at least back to coaching DB's

    @bigbrownsfan said:

    I could live with Schwartz....

    Who do we get as OC? Does Chud get another run at this? I would rather run a clean slate - and ship Tucker back to OSU or at least back to coaching DB's

    I really hope not..anyone but chud..chud sucks im really hoping pioli takes the job brings mcdaniels and puts the axe to all those less than mediocre assistants(which is most of them) that lerners Retarded arse wont fire ,those bums were well over half of crennels problem..

    If they have to have a fire put under their feet to do their job and then still fail they shouldnt be in that line of work i really dont want to see crennel as the new DC either...

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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    @herman-m said:

    Jim Schwartz The Titans defensive coordinator has a more-than-mild interest in the Browns.

    He also worked with GM Mike Tannenbaum Scott Pioli

    I'm rooting for Schwartz as well.

    Any team with an anemic pass-rush could use's Schwartz's help. After losing both of his top rush ends last offseason, he's managed to get production out of some late-round DE's.

    Dave Ball, a former 5th Round pick, has 4.5 sacks on the season. Jacob Ford, drafted in the 6th Round of the '07 draft, has 7 sacks.

    One thing that sold me was how he managed the Pittsburgh game. Despite being without both Haynesworth & Vanden Bosch, Schwartz got 5 sacks out of his depleted squad, 3.5 of which came from rookie DE-DT Jason Jones.

    We've already got two good interior rushers in Rogers & Williams. I'm hoping Schwartz can replicate the success he's had turning Day Two DE's into sack artists.

    Aloysius said:

    I'm rooting for Schwartz as well.

    Any team with an anemic pass-rush could use's Schwartz's help. After losing both of his top rush ends last offseason, he's managed to get production out of some late-round DE's.

    Dave Ball, a former 5th Round pick, has 4.5 sacks on the season. Jacob Ford, drafted in the 6th Round of the '07 draft, has 7 sacks.

    One thing that sold me was how he managed the Pittsburgh game. Despite being without both Haynesworth & Vanden Bosch, Schwartz got 5 sacks out of his depleted squad, 3.5 of which came from rookie DE-DT Jason Jones.

    We've already got two good interior rushers in Rogers & Williams. I'm hoping Schwartz can replicate the success he's had turning Day Two DE's into sack artists.

    Alo, like Belichick's guys, how do we know that the performance isn't a result of the head coach - Fisher has basically been there forever. Too bad we can't just get Jeff Fisher.

    I liked the video of Spagnuola you posted the other day, but he does have limited time as a DC, compared to both Schwartz (sp) and Rex Ryan.

    I hope we get someone above Pioli who is experienced. Basically we're kicking Savage out (because he had too much power and not enough knowhow being a rookie) and replacing him with a guy who just as inexperienced and will be given the same power.

  • @inspecta said:

    Well it looks like we'll get another FO that come with training wheels.

    I don't care how much "potential" these guys have, they don't have experience, and that's whats needed to right this ship. I understand Cowher is off the radar, but what about Marty? Hell even the Tuna would be an excellent option.

    This sucks.

    Welcome to 'Randy Lerner's Management Course 101'

    Lerner had better pray this works out right - this is his defining moment - if we're 'rebuilding' again in 2-4 years, it will be without half of the fanbase.

  • I certainly have mixed emotions right now...

    Hopes were set on Cowher or Marty... Now were looking at more New England guys coming over.

    Regardless of what happens, sports is still a crap shoot. Coaches, Players, Draft Picks,Management, etc., we are taking chances on everyone.

    My inclination is to get someone who has done, and done it well in the past. But time will only tell. I will still bleed orange and brown.

  • BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd

    I certainly have mixed emotions right now...

    Hopes were set on Cowher or Marty... Now were looking at more New England guys coming over.

    Regardless of what happens, sports is still a crap shoot. Coaches, Players, Draft Picks,Management, etc., we are taking chances on everyone.

    My inclination is to get someone who has done, and done it well in the past. But time will only tell. I will still bleed orange and brown.

    @brownskidd said:

    I certainly have mixed emotions right now...

    Hopes were set on Cowher or Marty... Now were looking at more New England guys coming over.

    Regardless of what happens, sports is still a crap shoot. Coaches, Players, Draft Picks,Management, etc., we are taking chances on everyone.

    My inclination is to get someone who has done, and done it well in the past. But time will only tell. I will still bleed orange and brown.

    Marty, despite prior reports, is interested in roaming the sidelines again.

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/12/29/schottenhe...hing-bug-again/

    I don't know how you don't go after him, but this is the Browns. We'll just grab more of Belichick's guys hoping it works out.

    Pioli and Marty I can live happily with.

  • D damajuki

    Hey Ytown, where are you getting this? I just checked the PD online and unless it posted in the last 15 minutes, I'm not seeing what you're saying.

    Mary Kay did report that Pioli could be in town as soon as Tuesday but that's not EXACTLY the same thing as you're saying.

    Not that I'm complaining. Pioli has the resume and the Browns history that I think is crucial to succeeding in Cleveland. We are not just any city when it comes to football; it would be helpful to have someone who actually UNDERSTANDS the Browns and the depth of the fans' passion for them.

    @damajuki said:

    Hey Ytown, where are you getting this? I just checked the PD online and unless it posted in the last 15 minutes, I'm not seeing what you're saying.

    Mary Kay did report that Pioli could be in town as soon as Tuesday but that's not EXACTLY the same thing as you're saying.

    Not that I'm complaining. Pioli has the resume and the Browns history that I think is crucial to succeeding in Cleveland. We are not just any city when it comes to football; it would be helpful to have someone who actually UNDERSTANDS the Browns and the depth of the fans' passion for them.

    Grossi, Knott and Mary Kay reported some of it on STO yesterday and my son works in radio and also with the print media. He has been in Cleveland for two days and talked to his buddy Zac Jackson after Lerner's private news conference.

    Lerner said he had only two people on his "A" list for GM and acknowledged that Pioli was number one. Later it leaked out that Rich McKay was the other one.

    Pioli may even be announced on Wednesday, but because of the holiday it might not be till Friday. The only way it isn't Pioli is if he turns it down. Danny Ferry told some media that he talked to Pioli and he wants the job. Ferry, Shapiro and Pioli are all friends.

  • @inspecta said:

    Well it looks like we'll get another FO that come with training wheels.

    I don't care how much "potential" these guys have, they don't have experience, and that's whats needed to right this ship. I understand Cowher is off the radar, but what about Marty? Hell even the Tuna would be an excellent option.

    This sucks.

    Tuna won't come because Pioli is his son-in-law and he won't get in the way if Pioli wants the job.

  • @inspecta said:

    Well it looks like we'll get another FO that come with training wheels.

    I don't care how much "potential" these guys have, they don't have experience, and that's whats needed to right this ship. I understand Cowher is off the radar, but what about Marty? Hell even the Tuna would be an excellent option.

    This sucks.

    If it is Pioli, would it really be a FO w/ training wheels? I don't know a lot about the guy, but you don't win the following awards by being nothing more than another name in lower position in some other teams FO.

    Pioli was awarded The Sporting News' George Young NFL Executive of the Year award (voted on by NFL executives) following the 2003 and 2004 seasons. He is one of just three NFL executives, along with Bill Polian and Bobby Beathard, to win the award in consecutive years. Pioli is the youngest executive to win the award.

    Pioli was honored with Executive of the Year honors from national media outlets following the 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2007 seasons.

    Following Super Bowl XXXVIII, he earned Executive of the Year honors from Pro Football Weekly (voted on by the media),

    The Sporting News (voted on by NFL executives) and Sports Illustrated.

    In 2004, Pioli's accolades included the NFLPA's Award for Executive Achievement and NFL Executive of the Year awards from The Sporting News, USA Today, the San Francisco Chronicle and SI.com. In 2007.

    Pioli again earned Executive of the Year honors from Pro Football Weekly, the Dallas Morning News and the San Francisco Chronicle.

  • @shepwrite said:

    Yeah, the collective summary of all the morning buzz is that Pioli and the Browns want to do this so it'll get done... and McDaniels and Schwartz look to be the coaching contenders. I like all of the above. I especially like Pioli's excitement about the Browns, given that so many teams have offered him Planet Earth over the past few years, including the Seahawks, Chiefs, and Lions.

    Don't forget Mangini. Pioli and him are very close. Mangini is married to Shapiro's daughter and Shapiro and Pioli are very close friends. I think I would rather see McDaniel and maybe Mangini as a DC. I just don't know about Schwartz. I know Fisher is like Belichick when it comes to defense. He has his hands all over it.

    It doesn't sound like Belichick had much input into the offense and it soulds like McDaniel has even refined Weis's system to make it more productive and more of a west coast style. It would work great from Quinn.

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