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  • Rams Fan R
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    R Rams Fan wrote on last edited by
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    @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    Hey buddy,

    regardless what fans think, Mike Holmgren has already announced that Colt McCOy will not be with the Browns in 2012, or at least will not be the starter.

    In a press conference about a week ago Holmgren reaffirmed that the football team begins with the QB. He siad two telling things.

    1) McCoy is still under evaluation ( After 2 years?

    2) The Browns will take a new QB every year until we find the right guy.

    If Holmgren thought McCOy MIGHT be the guy, we would not insult him and risk shaking his confidence by publicly implying nothing is settled. Hey, this is 2011, either McCOy is THE MAN, or he isn't.

    But you see, Holmgren didn't even stop to think baout how his words might affect Colt. Clearly, Holmgren has already moved past McCoy and the Browns are going to limp trough the season with him.

    McCoy is gone, done, fini.

    Wow, I didn't know that happened. Thats not necessarily the way to encourage a young struggling QB, so I would have to agree with you. I just hope by the time he gets out, he's not too beat up to be effective elsewhere.

    Thanks for the replies!

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      USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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      Tim pulls out and choco stated it perfectly. McCoy may not be the guy but he's the best we have and gives it his all.

      Yes, you should still evaluate him because he's playing for a Retarded head coach and shitty offense. I believe he'd be much better with a decent o line and a OC who calls plays to his strengths. He should be in the shotgun the majority of the time with this offense. Its hard to say he's good or bad until he gets some protection and a RB who can pick up more than 2 yards an attempt.

      The key to playing the browns offense is stacking the box because we never go over 10 yards on passes. Its easy to game plane, the fans can see it, and you can sure as hell bet the opposing d coordinator can see it.

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        USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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        Oh yeah. Anyone who looks at the regression this year and says we should have let mangini go is dumb. He always had the team playing their best and we were in every game last season. The guys played hard for him and we lost a lot of close games in a difficult schedule. I bet given another couple years with some good drafts he would have got us to the playoffs.

        With what we have now for coaches who knows when we'll see the playoffs. And firing our special teams coach was another blunder by this regime.

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          USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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          If holmgren really thinks colt is done, why wouldn't he put in his boy Seneca and see what he can do? The jury is still out for colt.

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            R Rams Fan wrote on last edited by Rams Fan
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            Just wanted to share this with you all. Thought it was funny considering I made these same comments yesterday.

            Brown Offense Predictability

            Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 5, 2011, 11:12 AM EDT

            APMike Holmgren and Pat Shurmur were supposed to bring a new era of offensive efficiency to Cleveland.

            Instead, Colt McCoy has regressed this year and the offense is worse than it was than when Eric Mangini was the head coach. Michael Lombardi of NFL.com gives a great example of Clevelands predictability.

            Lombardi says each week, he calls a former coach on the phone and plays a game with him.

            I tell my friend the personnel group, the formation, where the ball is located on the field and what hash mark and describe the motion if there is any and ask him to tell me the exact play that will be run. He is correct about 95 percent of the time. No lie.

            The Browns are so integrated into the West Coast system that their predictability is becoming legendary around the league, Lombardi writes.

            The Browns are running the purest West Coast offense in the league. Other successful teams run West Coast offenses, but they mix up their systems a lot more.

            If a coach on the phone knows what play is coming from the Browns, you can be sure opposing defensive coordinators know whats coming too.

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              RavensFan1996R RavensFan1996 wrote on last edited by
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              You can't give a QB chicken-you know what and expect him to make Chicken Salad. Bottom line is, the kid has nothing around him. You could put Brady under center there and even he would falter. I like McCoy and think he can be a good NFL QB, but not under the current conditions in Cleveland. Oh, and Hillis needs to go too.

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                chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                Nice necro....

                Disagree completely

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                  You can't give a QB chicken-you know what and expect him to make Chicken Salad. Bottom line is, the kid has nothing around him. You could put Brady under center there and even he would falter. I like McCoy and think he can be a good NFL QB, but not under the current conditions in Cleveland. Oh, and Hillis needs to go too.

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                  J jnuh wrote on last edited by
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                  @ravensfan1996 said:

                  You can't give a QB chicken-you know what and expect him to make Chicken Salad. Bottom line is, the kid has nothing around him. You could put Brady under center there and even he would falter. I like McCoy and think he can be a good NFL QB, but not under the current conditions in Cleveland. Oh, and Hillis needs to go too.

                  Brady would be fine. He is a smart play making QB. He made Troy Brown, David Patten, and David Givens look like all pro's ... he could also do it with Cribbs, Little, and MoMass.

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                    slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by
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                    why don't you put your ass in the bed so your maternal uncle can teabag your miserable ass

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                      nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                      @king-ghoolie-lives said:

                      I will bet you $2,500 that Colt McCOy will never start again for the Browns in 2012.

                      Hoorta, Roach, Rich, West Side Steve, KS HUtchins, Johnny B, Furnier, , you name the long-standing board member and I will send him my cashiers check MOnday morning.

                      KXXXXXing idiot? Dude, I am ALWAYA CORRECTAMUNDO on this shit.

                      COlt McCoy is a deer caught in teh headlights. He is a 5 yard visionist who cannot fathom throwing the ball while the reciever is still in teh process of making his break........

                      Colt McCoy is Tim Couch reincarnated.

                      Wow you are dumber than a bag of rocks.

                      Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                        slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by
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                        @king-ghoolie-lives said:

                        DING DING DING DING DING....................... WE HAVE A WINNER.............

                        DUDE.......... SUPE-RMOST-EXCELLISIOUS POST.............

                        But do you have the smarts. the intelligence...... the common sense to even UNDERSATND what you just posted.?

                        Let me make it SIMPLE for you to understand what your OWN POST SAYS...........

                        If we believe Mangini was getting results, and he was because even I had to eat some crow and compliment the team last year........

                        And we know Holmgren replaced him with Shit.............

                        How in the name of God can anyone think Holmgren is motivated by WINNING........... and not by his own personal needs?

                        HOMGREN IS A WASTE OF DNA.

                        Shurmur is NOT GOING TO BE FIRED. If the team wins 5, perhaps nobody will be fired, BUT.......... if someone goes? It will be Heckert...........

                        HOLMGREN IS NOT GOING TO ADMIT HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO PICK A COACH...............

                        HOLMGREN IS NOT GOING TO SIT ON HIS HAND IF THE TEAM GOES 4 -12 or worse. HE HAS TO FIRE SOMEONE to make it look like he is an active President. Heckert is the logical choice. Frankly? PAssing on Julion Jones gives Holmgren evidence enough to fire Heckert.

                        are you currently in the vegas metro area????????? my ex wife just callled extremely hostile wanting to fk somebody up and you came to mind!!!!!

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                          Ding Ghnarlie should have been banned this weekend. But no, Zombo had a vote, and several people

                          felt sorry for the miserable, hateful wreck - so on and on it goes.

                          It is far from just negative. It's insanely venting on anything that moves, I think.

                          Very much stinkin up talking GENUINELY about the Browns.

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                            cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                            Slide itch

                            "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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