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  • PlayoffsIN09 P
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    P PlayoffsIN09 wrote on last edited by
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    What is his drafting history and who do you think he will draft for us. I know next to nothing about him but if he favors the pass then there goes the Beanie dreamers. I want Ray Maualuga .

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      M mole644 wrote on last edited by
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      My guess would be a linebacker. He drafted Mayo last season, so I'm sure he knows the importance of good linebackers in the 3-4.

      I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more Jerome Harrison
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        Yeah, but how can we be sure Belichick wasn't making the picks???

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          My guess would be a linebacker. He drafted Mayo last season, so I'm sure he knows the importance of good linebackers in the 3-4.

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          P PlayoffsIN09 wrote on last edited by
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          @mole644 said:

          My guess would be a linebacker. He drafted Mayo last season, so I'm sure he knows the importance of good linebackers in the 3-4.

          God I hope so!!!

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            Yeah, but how can we be sure Belichick wasn't making the picks???

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            ? Masters wrote on last edited by
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            mz. said:

            Yeah, but how can we be sure Belichick wasn't making the picks???

            To many awards given to him that were voted on by other execs around the league. Plus I can't see BB letting someone else get awards for his work. Of course BB always had final say.

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              I was (kind of) giving a "nod" to our most esteemed colleagues' Coffee-Fetcher' Theory. But still...

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                plumcrazy73P plumcrazy73 wrote on last edited by
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                I just wish I could land one of those high paying coffee fetching jobs! I would be the Adam Sandler's Water Boy of Coffee Fetchers!

                “What Can BROWN Do For You!” Record for the year. 9-7 + or - 1 and not being swept by any team in the division.
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                  J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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                  pioli took over as director of player personnel of the pats in 2001, then became VP of player personnel in 2002. since 2001, here are the pats' draftees from the first three rounds:

                  2001

                  richard seymour (de, 1st rd)

                  matt light (lt, 2nd rd)

                  brock williams (cb, 3rd rd)

                  2002

                  daniel graham (te, 1st rd)

                  deion branch (wr, 2nd rd)

                  2003

                  ty warren (de, 1st rd)

                  eugene wilson (cb, 2nd rd)

                  bethel johnson (wr, 2nd rd)

                  2004

                  vince wilfork (dt, 1st rd)

                  benjamin watson (te, 1st rd)

                  marquise hill (de, 2nd rd)

                  guss scott (ss, 3rd rd)

                  2005

                  logan mankins (og, 1st rd)

                  ellis hobbs (cb, 3rd rd)

                  nick kaczur (og, 3rd rd)

                  2006

                  laurence maroney (rb, 1st rd)

                  chad jackson (wr, 2nd rd)

                  david thomas (te, 3rd rd)

                  2007

                  brandon meriweather (s, 1st rd)

                  2008

                  jerod mayo (lb, 1st rd)

                  terance wheatley (cb, 2nd rd)

                  shawn crable (lb, 3rd rd)

                  kevin o'connell (qb, 3rd rd)

                  seems like he prefers to go defense early and then pick offensive players as necessary. some of that could be BB's influence, but it's still the trend he established while with the pats.

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                    My guess would be a linebacker. He drafted Mayo last season, so I'm sure he knows the importance of good linebackers in the 3-4.

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                    @mole644 said:

                    My guess would be a linebacker. He drafted Mayo last season, so I'm sure he knows the importance of good linebackers in the 3-4.

                    And Mike Mayock says Curry is a quicker, more athletic version of Mayo.

                    I'm thinking/hoping we go with him.

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                      pioli took over as director of player personnel of the pats in 2001, then became VP of player personnel in 2002. since 2001, here are the pats' draftees from the first three rounds:

                      2001

                      richard seymour (de, 1st rd)

                      matt light (lt, 2nd rd)

                      brock williams (cb, 3rd rd)

                      2002

                      daniel graham (te, 1st rd)

                      deion branch (wr, 2nd rd)

                      2003

                      ty warren (de, 1st rd)

                      eugene wilson (cb, 2nd rd)

                      bethel johnson (wr, 2nd rd)

                      2004

                      vince wilfork (dt, 1st rd)

                      benjamin watson (te, 1st rd)

                      marquise hill (de, 2nd rd)

                      guss scott (ss, 3rd rd)

                      2005

                      logan mankins (og, 1st rd)

                      ellis hobbs (cb, 3rd rd)

                      nick kaczur (og, 3rd rd)

                      2006

                      laurence maroney (rb, 1st rd)

                      chad jackson (wr, 2nd rd)

                      david thomas (te, 3rd rd)

                      2007

                      brandon meriweather (s, 1st rd)

                      2008

                      jerod mayo (lb, 1st rd)

                      terance wheatley (cb, 2nd rd)

                      shawn crable (lb, 3rd rd)

                      kevin o'connell (qb, 3rd rd)

                      seems like he prefers to go defense early and then pick offensive players as necessary. some of that could be BB's influence, but it's still the trend he established while with the pats.

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                      @jewdago said:

                      seems like he prefers to go defense early and then pick offensive players as necessary. some of that could be BB's influence, but it's still the trend he established while with the pats.

                      And it may be a coincidence, but all of their offensive Round 1 picks were towards the end of the round: the earliest were Maroney and Graham at pick #21.

                      When they had top 15 picks, they used them to bolster their front seven.

                      I hope we do the same.

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                        S Squintz wrote on last edited by
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                        Curry is the pick at 5, but there is a big part of me that wishes they were drafting 10-12 so they would have to 'settle' for Maualuga. He's the guy I want on my team. Perhaps they could trade down, but we all should know by now that doesn't happen often or easily.

                        CHANGE IS GOOD
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                        • PlaygroundLegend PlaygroundLegendP
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                          PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend wrote on last edited by
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                          I want Maualuga...

                          But Pioli scares me in THIS YEARS draft...

                          Pioli likes character, well roundedness, versatility, and depth...

                          This makes me think he will trade down and grab Laurinitis

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                          • PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend

                            I want Maualuga...

                            But Pioli scares me in THIS YEARS draft...

                            Pioli likes character, well roundedness, versatility, and depth...

                            This makes me think he will trade down and grab Laurinitis

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                            Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by Mr. T
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                            @playgroundlegend said:

                            I want Maualuga...

                            But Pioli scares me in THIS YEARS draft...

                            Pioli likes character, well roundedness, versatility, and depth...

                            This makes me think he will trade down and grab Laurinitis

                            that would be a good move, he would get a Football Player and not an over hyped flash in the pan. like we see from some of these guys out of week conferences. (big Fish in a little Pond)

                            Head or Gut?
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                              I want Maualuga...

                              But Pioli scares me in THIS YEARS draft...

                              Pioli likes character, well roundedness, versatility, and depth...

                              This makes me think he will trade down and grab Laurinitis

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                              J JewDago wrote on last edited by
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                              @playgroundlegend said:

                              I want Maualuga...

                              But Pioli scares me in THIS YEARS draft...

                              Pioli likes character, well roundedness, versatility, and depth...

                              This makes me think he will trade down and grab Laurinitis

                              or he'll stay put and take curry who offers true versatility. lauriantis is purely a 4-3 guy and maybe even a 4-3 WLB, at that. curry can play, so i've been told, any LB position in any scheme.

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                                P pl4tinum wrote on last edited by
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                                Damn, his 2006 was pretty horrible.

                                2009-10 Browns Prediction: 8-8
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                                  Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                                  First I would hope that he would coordinate the draft with his HC and work as a team. We don't need the same kind of disconnect that we had with Savage and Crennel. The HC has to have a say and has to be comfortable with the player.

                                  That being said, Curry can play in either system. I want to see Maluauga's combine and pro days. His numbers weren't really that great when you break them down. He is not a good coverage guy and he was surrounded by very good players that made him look better.

                                  Then again, I would like to trade down because we have a lot of needs. I don't see a great difference in LBs from #5 to #15.

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                                  • Mr. TM Mr. T

                                    @playgroundlegend said:

                                    I want Maualuga...

                                    But Pioli scares me in THIS YEARS draft...

                                    Pioli likes character, well roundedness, versatility, and depth...

                                    This makes me think he will trade down and grab Laurinitis

                                    that would be a good move, he would get a Football Player and not an over hyped flash in the pan. like we see from some of these guys out of week conferences. (big Fish in a little Pond)

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                                    B BigBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                    @mr.-t said:

                                    that would be a good move, he would get a Football Player and not an over hyped flash in the pan. like we see from some of these guys out of week conferences. (big Fish in a little Pond)

                                    Are you f-ing kidding me??? Laurinitis is THE single most over-hyped player in the country. Period! Not even an argument. He is solid, but not as good as everyone makes him out to be. Hawk was better than him, and what, exactly, is he doing in the NFL? No sir, no Laurinitis for me.

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                                    • J JewDago

                                      pioli took over as director of player personnel of the pats in 2001, then became VP of player personnel in 2002. since 2001, here are the pats' draftees from the first three rounds:

                                      2001

                                      richard seymour (de, 1st rd)

                                      matt light (lt, 2nd rd)

                                      brock williams (cb, 3rd rd)

                                      2002

                                      daniel graham (te, 1st rd)

                                      deion branch (wr, 2nd rd)

                                      2003

                                      ty warren (de, 1st rd)

                                      eugene wilson (cb, 2nd rd)

                                      bethel johnson (wr, 2nd rd)

                                      2004

                                      vince wilfork (dt, 1st rd)

                                      benjamin watson (te, 1st rd)

                                      marquise hill (de, 2nd rd)

                                      guss scott (ss, 3rd rd)

                                      2005

                                      logan mankins (og, 1st rd)

                                      ellis hobbs (cb, 3rd rd)

                                      nick kaczur (og, 3rd rd)

                                      2006

                                      laurence maroney (rb, 1st rd)

                                      chad jackson (wr, 2nd rd)

                                      david thomas (te, 3rd rd)

                                      2007

                                      brandon meriweather (s, 1st rd)

                                      2008

                                      jerod mayo (lb, 1st rd)

                                      terance wheatley (cb, 2nd rd)

                                      shawn crable (lb, 3rd rd)

                                      kevin o'connell (qb, 3rd rd)

                                      seems like he prefers to go defense early and then pick offensive players as necessary. some of that could be BB's influence, but it's still the trend he established while with the pats.

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                                      T Tobalaz wrote on last edited by
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                                      @jewdago said:

                                      pioli took over as director of player personnel of the pats in 2001, then became VP of player personnel in 2002. since 2001, here are the pats' draftees from the first three rounds:

                                      2001

                                      richard seymour (de, 1st rd)

                                      matt light (lt, 2nd rd)

                                      brock williams (cb, 3rd rd)

                                      2002

                                      daniel graham (te, 1st rd)

                                      deion branch (wr, 2nd rd)

                                      2003

                                      ty warren (de, 1st rd)

                                      eugene wilson (cb, 2nd rd)

                                      bethel johnson (wr, 2nd rd)

                                      2004

                                      vince wilfork (dt, 1st rd)

                                      benjamin watson (te, 1st rd)

                                      marquise hill (de, 2nd rd)

                                      guss scott (ss, 3rd rd)

                                      2005

                                      logan mankins (og, 1st rd)

                                      ellis hobbs (cb, 3rd rd)

                                      nick kaczur (og, 3rd rd)

                                      2006

                                      laurence maroney (rb, 1st rd)

                                      chad jackson (wr, 2nd rd)

                                      david thomas (te, 3rd rd)

                                      2007

                                      brandon meriweather (s, 1st rd)

                                      2008

                                      jerod mayo (lb, 1st rd)

                                      terance wheatley (cb, 2nd rd)

                                      shawn crable (lb, 3rd rd)

                                      kevin o'connell (qb, 3rd rd)

                                      seems like he prefers to go defense early and then pick offensive players as necessary. some of that could be BB's influence, but it's still the trend he established while with the pats.

                                      I'm not seeing late round picks in that list. Don't get me wrong, I like seeing just about every 1st through 3rd being a quality contributor to the team....

                                      BUT...

                                      I'm not seeing late round gems in that list like a "stellar" gm is supposed to glean and develop over a few seasons on special teams or the practice squad.

                                      3 seasons until our new head coach, let's hope they get it right this time.
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                                        @jewdago said:

                                        pioli took over as director of player personnel of the pats in 2001, then became VP of player personnel in 2002. since 2001, here are the pats' draftees from the first three rounds:

                                        2001

                                        richard seymour (de, 1st rd)

                                        matt light (lt, 2nd rd)

                                        brock williams (cb, 3rd rd)

                                        2002

                                        daniel graham (te, 1st rd)

                                        deion branch (wr, 2nd rd)

                                        2003

                                        ty warren (de, 1st rd)

                                        eugene wilson (cb, 2nd rd)

                                        bethel johnson (wr, 2nd rd)

                                        2004

                                        vince wilfork (dt, 1st rd)

                                        benjamin watson (te, 1st rd)

                                        marquise hill (de, 2nd rd)

                                        guss scott (ss, 3rd rd)

                                        2005

                                        logan mankins (og, 1st rd)

                                        ellis hobbs (cb, 3rd rd)

                                        nick kaczur (og, 3rd rd)

                                        2006

                                        laurence maroney (rb, 1st rd)

                                        chad jackson (wr, 2nd rd)

                                        david thomas (te, 3rd rd)

                                        2007

                                        brandon meriweather (s, 1st rd)

                                        2008

                                        jerod mayo (lb, 1st rd)

                                        terance wheatley (cb, 2nd rd)

                                        shawn crable (lb, 3rd rd)

                                        kevin o'connell (qb, 3rd rd)

                                        seems like he prefers to go defense early and then pick offensive players as necessary. some of that could be BB's influence, but it's still the trend he established while with the pats.

                                        I'm not seeing late round picks in that list. Don't get me wrong, I like seeing just about every 1st through 3rd being a quality contributor to the team....

                                        BUT...

                                        I'm not seeing late round gems in that list like a "stellar" gm is supposed to glean and develop over a few seasons on special teams or the practice squad.

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                                        ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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                                        @tobalaz said:

                                        BUT...

                                        I'm not seeing late round gems in that list like a "stellar" gm is supposed to glean and develop over a few seasons on special teams or the practice squad.

                                        The Pats haven't drafted many late round gems recently, but they've had more than a few.

                                        2002:

                                        • Round 4: Jarvis Green - would be a starting 3-4 DE on any other team
                                        • Round 7: David Givens
                                        2003:
                                        • Round 4: Asante Samuel
                                        • Round 5: Dan Koppen - their starting center
                                        2005:
                                        • Round 4: James Sanders - key member of their secondary
                                        • Round 7: Matt Cassel
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                                          Round 1. Curry

                                          Round 2. LeSean McCoy - RB - Pitt

                                          Round 3. Kevin Barens - CB - Maryland

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