Ryan Pontbriand Officially Waived
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Here here.
It is the special teams coach who should have been canned. Far more egregious than those 1 or 2 bad snaps has been the the fact that these special teams have been playing like children wandering in the wilderness.
I agree.
Ponti's snaps have been off.....punts snaps have been all over the place, but this still stinks of a regime looking to mitigate the record.
How about changing some coaches after the season??
Ponti's snaps have been off.....punts snaps have been all over the place, but this still stinks of a regime looking to mitigate the record.
How about changing some coaches after the season??
Agreed. i liked the guy, but turn the page.
The guy from the Factory of Sadness video is going to have to get a new jersey.
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I agree... snap the damned ball! This season is killing me. I hope we don't lose what good players we still have!
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Ponti's snaps have been off.....punts snaps have been all over the place, but this still stinks of a regime looking to mitigate the record.
How about changing some coaches after the season??
Agreed. i liked the guy, but turn the page.
The guy from the Factory of Sadness video is going to have to get a new jersey.
Agreed. i liked the guy, but turn the page.
The guy from the Factory of Sadness video is going to have to get a new jersey.
He should get a custom one or just wait then... i have lost track of how many jerseys ive gone through... I now just put duct tape and something in marker over my Edwards one. I am in the process of unstitching Quinn from my #10
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Agreed. i liked the guy, but turn the page.
The guy from the Factory of Sadness video is going to have to get a new jersey.
He should get a custom one or just wait then... i have lost track of how many jerseys ive gone through... I now just put duct tape and something in marker over my Edwards one. I am in the process of unstitching Quinn from my #10
He should get a custom one or just wait then... i have lost track of how many jerseys ive gone through... I now just put duct tape and something in marker over my Edwards one. I am in the process of unstitching Quinn from my #10
yep, this is why I refuse to buy anything but the jersey shirts until there's a guy who actually sticks. The only jersey that is worth buying on our team is Thomas.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Dime-a-dozen offensive lineman.
You could find a fatass drunk to clean his act up and do just fine at this position.
Perhaps the Browns are FINALLY realizing it is idiotic to pay these lardass offensive linemen big money.
All in all, this is a YAWN story.
Long Snapper..... LMAO!
Its not that they released this guy so much as it clearly appears to many, including me, that he was indeed a scapegoat for the failures of this coaching staff to do a decent job with this team.
You may be right, it may be a big yawner that a long snapper was let go...but I have seen it elsewhere in my own situation.....the guys that are inept but screw up cover their asses by getting rid of others so they don't have to take the blame.
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Zombo said:
His snaps were terrible this year. He got paid very well by the Browns to snap a football for nine years. Pointbriand wins.
He was very good for many years and now we are going to give a young guy from UCLA a shot. Everybody wins.
Even Eagles fans at my bar keep saying "you guys would be contending if your special teams weren't so bad."
It's not a scapegoat. It's accountability. After several good years. He failed at his job this year. Randy Moss got cut, Donovan McNabb got benched, Mike Shannahan got fired ... surely a bumbling long snapper's days are short.
I just wish Dawson grow his hair back, all this went awry when he shaved his head. And he looks like fucking Gazoo from the Flintstones.
Z
I am not saying that Pontbriand should not have been held responsible....just that of all the special team fuckups, he had a hand in maybe 20-25% of them.
Is it fair to say that people around here can now see why they say special team are one third of the game? At least one third or more of the Browns losses have been directly attributable to special teams failures.
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Zombo said:
I'm disapointed.
I thought you were going to post a picture of Gazoo.
Z
I don't actually remember Gazoo, but here you go:
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Dime-a-dozen offensive lineman.
You could find a fatass drunk to clean his act up and do just fine at this position.
Perhaps the Browns are FINALLY realizing it is idiotic to pay these lardass offensive linemen big money.
All in all, this is a YAWN story.
Long Snapper..... LMAO!
And I'm sure you have plenty of room to call people fatasses don't you ghoolie? That being said I agree there's a thousand guys who can long snap. Too bad for him. Wonder how often long snappers actually get drafted.
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The only question that hasn't been asked yet is why did we ever let go our old ST coach. You know, the one that had our ST unit one of the best in the league, and currently has the 49ers ST unit one of the best in the league. Why isn't he still here? If you have something good going for your club, why change it?
The only question that hasn't been asked yet is why did we ever let go our old ST coach. You know, the one that had our ST unit one of the best in the league, and currently has the 49ers ST unit one of the best in the league. Why isn't he still here? If you have something good going for your club, why change it?
I don't know why they canned the ST coach either, but one thing is for certain- when we went from a 3-4 scheme on D to a 4-3, there aren't as many LBs on the roster. The lost LBs were also special team contributors, so that's one reason, IMHO, why our coverage units sucked real bad the first few games (they have improved as the season has gone on).
It simply was a bad idea to break in a rookie head coach, a new offense, AND a new defensive scheme at the same time. Holmgren gambled & lost.
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The only question that hasn't been asked yet is why did we ever let go our old ST coach. You know, the one that had our ST unit one of the best in the league, and currently has the 49ers ST unit one of the best in the league. Why isn't he still here? If you have something good going for your club, why change it?
I don't know why they canned the ST coach either, but one thing is for certain- when we went from a 3-4 scheme on D to a 4-3, there aren't as many LBs on the roster. The lost LBs were also special team contributors, so that's one reason, IMHO, why our coverage units sucked real bad the first few games (they have improved as the season has gone on).
It simply was a bad idea to break in a rookie head coach, a new offense, AND a new defensive scheme at the same time. Holmgren gambled & lost.
I don't know why they canned the ST coach either, but one thing is for certain- when we went from a 3-4 scheme on D to a 4-3, there aren't as many LBs on the roster. The lost LBs were also special team contributors, so that's one reason, IMHO, why our coverage units sucked real bad the first few games (they have improved as the season has gone on).
It simply was a bad idea to break in a rookie head coach, a new offense, AND a new defensive scheme at the same time. Holmgren gambled & lost.
One of the guys I was pissed about that we lost was Blake Costanso. He was a very good ST player. Taking Josh Cribbs off kickoff coverages also didn't help us. Maybe that's why he spoke up about it. One of the things that really pisses me off about the Browns is they fire a guy like Seely, who had our special teams unit one of the best , if not THE best, and turned it into shit. I mean, why not just give the guy a raise and keep him here? Who's boneheaded decision was it to shit can the guy? Holmgren? Or Shurmhead?
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I don't know why they canned the ST coach either, but one thing is for certain- when we went from a 3-4 scheme on D to a 4-3, there aren't as many LBs on the roster. The lost LBs were also special team contributors, so that's one reason, IMHO, why our coverage units sucked real bad the first few games (they have improved as the season has gone on).
It simply was a bad idea to break in a rookie head coach, a new offense, AND a new defensive scheme at the same time. Holmgren gambled & lost.
One of the guys I was pissed about that we lost was Blake Costanso. He was a very good ST player. Taking Josh Cribbs off kickoff coverages also didn't help us. Maybe that's why he spoke up about it. One of the things that really pisses me off about the Browns is they fire a guy like Seely, who had our special teams unit one of the best , if not THE best, and turned it into shit. I mean, why not just give the guy a raise and keep him here? Who's boneheaded decision was it to shit can the guy? Holmgren? Or Shurmhead?
One of the guys I was pissed about that we lost was Blake Costanso. He was a very good ST player. Taking Josh Cribbs off kickoff coverages also didn't help us. Maybe that's why he spoke up about it. One of the things that really pisses me off about the Browns is they fire a guy like Seely, who had our special teams unit one of the best , if not THE best, and turned it into shit. I mean, why not just give the guy a raise and keep him here? Who's boneheaded decision was it to shit can the guy? Holmgren? Or Shurmhead?
Ya Costanzo is with Seely in SF. But Seely wasn't fired, SF just offered him a lot more money (which the Browns should have done).
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Here here.
It is the special teams coach who should have been canned. Far more egregious than those 1 or 2 bad snaps has been the the fact that these special teams have been playing like children wandering in the wilderness.
Absolutely. Is anyone but me concerned that Josh Cribbs isn't anywhere close to breaking a kick return?
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When it comes down to blaming a guy who has been real successful for years and had two bad snaps in two games, you are a team making excuses for losing! It should never come down to snaps but execution for the team
Bottom line eveyone from Holmgren on down needs fired except the D coord, and let the new coach decide to keep him or otherwise
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I was under the impression that it was always 7 yards back to the holder on FG tries? As long as I can remember it was always add 17 yards to the los to figure out how far a FG would be. I have never heard anything different until this week. Anyone else hear of this before?
I was under the impression that it was always 7 yards back to the holder on FG tries? As long as I can remember it was always add 17 yards to the los to figure out how far a FG would be. I have never heard anything different until this week. Anyone else hear of this before?
The end zone is 10 yards deep.
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No shit sherlock..that's how I got to 17 yards from the line of scrimmage. 7 yards back to the holder and 10 yards for the end zone which equals 17 yards. I've always heard that was the number but now some are saying that it used to be 6 or Pontbriand wanted it to be 7 and I was confused because every game I watch they always add 17 from the line of scrimmage for FG attempts.
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He should get a custom one or just wait then... i have lost track of how many jerseys ive gone through... I now just put duct tape and something in marker over my Edwards one. I am in the process of unstitching Quinn from my #10
yep, this is why I refuse to buy anything but the jersey shirts until there's a guy who actually sticks. The only jersey that is worth buying on our team is Thomas.
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He should get a custom one or just wait then... i have lost track of how many jerseys ive gone through... I now just put duct tape and something in marker over my Edwards one. I am in the process of unstitching Quinn from my #10
yep, this is why I refuse to buy anything but the jersey shirts until there's a guy who actually sticks. The only jersey that is worth buying on our team is Thomas.
yep, this is why I refuse to buy anything but the jersey shirts until there's a guy who actually sticks. The only jersey that is worth buying on our team is Thomas.
What playoff game has he had many yards and touchdowns, your logic is completely flawed until they win and do it a few times NO JERSEY NAME IS WORTH A CRAP
and to keep on substance of this thread, waiving Pontbriand is an example of a GM AND PREZ in retirement and a head coach and personnel man with no clue
Clean House get Tressel and be a winner
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Remember how Alex Mack stuck his foot in front of the snap? Oh yeah.
Not his fault.
That's complete stupid B.S. look at the replay, if macks foot isn't there (that's where his foots supposed to be anyway) it woulda rolled back to the holder.......look at the tape!!
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I was under the impression that it was always 7 yards back to the holder on FG tries? As long as I can remember it was always add 17 yards to the los to figure out how far a FG would be. I have never heard anything different until this week. Anyone else hear of this before?
that info i posted re: 6 & 7 yard punts was straight from Phil Dawson's lips>>mighta been last year when he said it. PD was pretty clear that RP snapping 7 yards was not the norm in the NFL, but because he was so ridiculously consistent -- like atomic clock consistent -- the pro (bullet proof consistency) outweighed the con (1 yard).
at the time Phil said it i think deep down he was looking for some validation for the extra yard no one ever knows about. like making sure when you see him kick a 54 yarder you know it's really a 55 (!).
i can't say for sure how many players snap 6 vs 7 yards in the League. maybe one of our lurking soccer fags knows for sure.
that info i posted re: 6 & 7 yard punts was straight from Phil Dawson's lips>>mighta been last year when he said it. PD was pretty clear that RP snapping 7 yards was not the norm in the NFL, but because he was so ridiculously consistent -- like atomic clock consistent -- the pro (bullet proof consistency) outweighed the con (1 yard).
at the time Phil said it i think deep down he was looking for some validation for the extra yard no one ever knows about. like making sure when you see him kick a 54 yarder you know it's really a 55 (!).
i can't say for sure how many players snap 6 vs 7 yards in the League. maybe one of our lurking soccer fags knows for sure.
I've always thought the rule was 7 yards
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