Real Question
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Heck translation, as best I can think it through including reading between the lines:
"I think only intellectuals want gay perverted marriage to be legal, and assaults on children to be legal, and drugs to be legal,
and all the people should get a lot of money from those who have some of it, and only intellectuals should be allowed to vote,
and like, I think that all the people who don't have any money should be supported by the federal government with free everything,
and only intellectuals want to have sex with exotic animals made legal, and I want in on some of that handout action,
and only intellectuals want to get rid of God out of everything and everywhere
because I agree with them and Calfox makes me cry when he uses phrases and compound words like "pseudo-intellectuals" and "perverted stuff".... "
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Well, a couple of points, Heck.
First, I'm not at all surprised that you thought that was a pretty funny line.
So since we both agree the krugman is an educated man I doubt that you would think it was as hilarious had someone made the same statement about the president.
Especially since you seem to think that a law degree is not much of a test for intelligence.
Now remember I'm not saying little Obama is stupid, but many of those who think that he's brilliant are by and large swayed by his speaking voice and the ability to read david axelrod's words for prompter.
But to the other point, sure I understand that the front runner will attract more fire.
That's not what I meant by marching orders. I actually spend more time watching the left lane news than I do fox. Seems to me that the plan is to pimp the guy that's not in the lead.
When gingrich was a long shot they all talked about how smart he was and how is really not that conservative and that republicans should wake up and see that.
Now republican darling of the left is huntsman. I hear how smart and wonderful and by golly conservative he is. I don't have much doubt that should he take the lead he'll be painted as big an idiot as rick perry.
Furthermore I understand your criticisms of gingrich. He might well be an ego maniac a loose cannon non disciplined what ever.
And if my main goal was to change the president I suppose it might be a better idea to vote for mitt.
But I'll think on that andmake my decisions closer to next fall.
WSS
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Dude he just posted 2 posts ago.
WSS
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Well, a couple of points, Heck.
First, I'm not at all surprised that you thought that was a pretty funny line.
So since we both agree the krugman is an educated man I doubt that you would think it was as hilarious had someone made the same statement about the president.
Especially since you seem to think that a law degree is not much of a test for intelligence.
Now remember I'm not saying little Obama is stupid, but many of those who think that he's brilliant are by and large swayed by his speaking voice and the ability to read david axelrod's words for prompter.
But to the other point, sure I understand that the front runner will attract more fire.
That's not what I meant by marching orders. I actually spend more time watching the left lane news than I do fox. Seems to me that the plan is to pimp the guy that's not in the lead.
When gingrich was a long shot they all talked about how smart he was and how is really not that conservative and that republicans should wake up and see that.
Now republican darling of the left is huntsman. I hear how smart and wonderful and by golly conservative he is. I don't have much doubt that should he take the lead he'll be painted as big an idiot as rick perry.
Furthermore I understand your criticisms of gingrich. He might well be an ego maniac a loose cannon non disciplined what ever.
And if my main goal was to change the president I suppose it might be a better idea to vote for mitt.
But I'll think on that andmake my decisions closer to next fall.
WSS
Well, a couple of points, Heck.
First, I'm not at all surprised that you thought that was a pretty funny line.
So since we both agree the krugman is an educated man I doubt that you would think it was as hilarious had someone made the same statement about the president.
Especially since you seem to think that a law degree is not much of a test for intelligence.
Now remember I'm not saying little Obama is stupid, but many of those who think that he's brilliant are by and large swayed by his speaking voice and the ability to read david axelrod's words for prompter.
WSS
Let me straighten some things out for you. And perhaps you'll defer to me because I know a little bit about this stuff.
David Axelrod does not write the president's speeches. He's an advisor, and he has a hand in message crafting, but he's not writing speeches. You know who writes Obama's speeches? It's often President Obama. Certainly all of the major speeches are largely written by the President himself, and the final drafts are all his. And he's also got a speechwriting team, like any president, led by a guy named Jon Favreau. But nothing but the most general stuff is written for the President without him being involved in the process. It's also common knowledge that the best speechwriter in the White House is the president himself. (Obama famously thinks this as well.) So to say he's just reading David Axelrod's words off a teleprompter is just wrong on a whole host of levels. It's an effort to use falsehoods to make him sound like he's an incompetent actor, or what you like to call "an empty suit." The problem with this line is that it's simply not true.
Will that stop you from using it? Of course not. You love it too much.
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As to your question, I think it's clear, judging from his books/writing to his educational background and years as a professor to his grasp of policy and his ability to articulate it to the fact that he came from pretty much nothing to become the President of the United States, that President Obama is a remarkably bright guy. I don't think any fair observer questions his intellect. Whether or not that translates into a great or effective politician is another story. I happen to think that if you could merge Obama's personal disposition and character with Clinton's political skill you might really have something. I think Obama could use some Clinton, and Clinton could have really benefitted from some Obama.
As for your mix up, I do think a law degree is a decent barometer for measuring someone's intelligence. I just think it's laughable to suggest that graduating from Harvard Law and editing the Law Review and becoming a professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago is even remotely the same thing as graduating from Regent University Law. It simply isn't. That should be a pretty easy distinction to make, even for you. One is one - if not the - toughest, most selective, and most highly respected law school in the world, and the other is ranked at the bottom of every survey.
So there's no reason to hold up a JD and insist that it levels the playing field. Michele Bachmann gives us evidence of her policy ignorance almost daily. And policy is her job. What are we supposed to think of people who live and breathe issues for a living and still can't display a working knowledge of the relevant issues? That they're really smart?
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Yes dear I know you you think you made a big fun point but of course I realize that david axelrod doesnt write obama's speeches.
I merely use him as your guys used karl rove as the pit from where all evil springs.
Or the way napoleon used farmer jones.
And you did make the point that not all tax lawyers are smart.
Only the democrats right?
WSS
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and let me repeat that my buddy Doug went to cleveland state or toledo or somewhere and passed the bar on his first try. Unlike 3 others from that section who had gone to harvard.
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I guess when you write that "many of those who think that he's brilliant are by and large swayed by his speaking voice and the ability to read david axelrod's words for prompter" I'm supposed to know that what you mean is that Daxid Axelord is not writing the words on the prompter. You're making an unrelated point about Democrats and Karl Rove somehow. And assuming people who think Obama is smart are relying solely on his speeches, which would be dumb because they were written by someone else and he's only performing them. Except you're not saying they were written by someone else. Even though that's what you always mean when you call him an "empty suit."
Gotcha, buddy.
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No, I didn't think axelrod wrote the president's speeches.
Then again, outside of possibly having some kind of a vague notion, I don't suppose the president writes formulates or plans too many of his policy items either.
BTW I doubt that bush did.
WSS
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And I apologize for confusing you with the Rove reference.
WSS
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and let me repeat that my buddy Doug went to cleveland state or toledo or somewhere and passed the bar on his first try. Unlike 3 others from that section who had gone to harvard.
WSS
and let me repeat that my buddy Doug went to cleveland state or toledo or somewhere and passed the bar on his first try. Unlike 3 others from that section who had gone to harvard.
WSS
The only thing that someone doing their undergrad at Harvard tells me is that this person has rich parents.
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and let me repeat that my buddy Doug went to cleveland state or toledo or somewhere and passed the bar on his first try. Unlike 3 others from that section who had gone to harvard.
WSS
The only thing that someone doing their undergrad at Harvard tells me is that this person has rich parents.
The only thing that someone doing their undergrad at Harvard tells me is that this person has rich parents.
Well, some kind of outside influence anyway.
I mean, didn't Bush go to princeton?
I don't dislike the little fellow but he never seems like an ivy league type to me.
That said, I was kind of impressed by a doctor I met in key west who'd graduated from harvard and done his residency at johns hopkins.
WSS
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And I apologize for confusing you with the Rove reference.
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And I apologize for confusing you with the Rove reference.
WSS
But there wasn't a Rove reference. You wrote that Axelrod wrote the words on Obama's prompter. Which kind of makes it hard to pick it on a Rove reference.
You write like shit, and then pretend you're going too fast for us.
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No, I didn't think axelrod wrote the president's speeches.
Then again, outside of possibly having some kind of a vague notion, I don't suppose the president writes formulates or plans too many of his policy items either.
BTW I doubt that bush did.
WSS
No, I didn't think axelrod wrote the president's speeches.
Then again, outside of possibly having some kind of a vague notion, I don't suppose the president writes formulates or plans too many of his policy items either.
BTW I doubt that bush did.
WSS
You don't seem to have a very good handle on what it is a president does.
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And I apologize for confusing you with the Rove reference.
WSS
But there wasn't a Rove reference. You wrote that Axelrod wrote the words on Obama's prompter. Which kind of makes it hard to pick it on a Rove reference.
You write like shit, and then pretend you're going too fast for us.
But there wasn't a Rove reference. You wrote that Axelrod wrote the words on Obama's prompter. Which kind of makes it hard to pick it on a Rove reference.
You write like shit, and then pretend you're going too fast for us.
Not "us"; you.
WSS
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@vaportrail said:
Your last example is wayyyy different. If you get a professional degree from places like those, it says much more about your intelligence than a bachelor's. Someone who's kicked ass through Harvard and Johns Hopkins medical schools is going to be very intelligent. It's just hard to say that about anyone who gets their undergrad there, as there are going to be many underachievers. For example, I went to UD to get my BS in Physics, I was a huuuuge underachiever, though. Even though the school isn't prestigious, the degree is, and I love when I tell people that, and all of a sudden, they treat me like I'm going to be the next Einstein.
When really, I figured out I wasn't a good enough physicist to cut it in grad school, which is where all the important research goes. I found out I was a better chemist and biologist, and now I'm getting a masters in biology, with my research focus in biophysics. I feel what I'm doing now says wayyyyy more about me than anything I did as an undergrad. And another thing, just because someone is working towards a masters, phd, jd, etc, it doesn't necessarily imply that they're intelligent. The only thing that having "Dr." in front of your name absolutely means to me is that you spent a big chunk of your life becoming well versed in a likely narrow subject. For example, I think that anyone and their brotherhood can get a PhD in biology or chemistry if they put enough time into it, and it takes a little bit more for them to convince me that they're intelligent. Physicists, on the other hand, those guys are wizards... It takes a whole new level of understanding of math and the ability to manipulate a coordinate system to cut it as a PhD in physics. My intelligence grading scale would be completely different from heck or sev's... Let's see...
I'll work my way down
10 - Physicists of all sorts and sizes, Programmers
9 - MD's, DO's, lawyers, chemists, mathematicians (even though I place lawyers as a 1 in all other subjects because they're scumbags)
8 - Engineers, people with MS's in math, physics, chem, or engineering
7 - Pharmacists, Biochemists
6 - Psychologists
5 - People with MS's in soft sciences
4 - Science majors
3 - High school educated
2 - English majors, Business majors
1 - Communications majors
Basically, if I know nothing else about you, this is how intelligent I think you are. Once you open your mouth, you're able to move anywhere. For example, one of my friends was a history major at West Point. Now he's learning to fly helicopters in the army. He's an 8.
Well bud, I think you put lawyes a little higher on the list then I would have.
But it's still a pretty humorous though insightful list.
Communication major made me laugh but even below them I place the marketing major.
" How can you spot a marketing major? He's the guy in taco bell wearing a neck tie. "
WSS
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What you are is God's gift to you. What you make of yourself is your gift to God.
I respectfully disagree
Well bud, I think you put lawyes a little higher on the list then I would have.
But it's still a pretty humorous though insightful list.
Communication major made me laugh but even below them I place the marketing major.
" How can you spot a marketing major? He's the guy in taco bell wearing a neck tie. "
I try to infuse everything I do with a touch of smartass douchebaggery
And it's hilarious, every year since I've been to college, around May or June, I've seen at least one of my friends post on facebook, "Nobody told me my communications degree was going to be worthless!" And when you get a bunch of people who paid a shitload of money to go to a private school, then choose to pick a useless degree, you can't help but laugh at their plight. I was a business major for two weeks, before I realized I was paying way too much money for a degree everyone and their brother has.
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"Nobody told me my communications degree was going to be worthless!"
Well they shoulda guessed.
If it seems easy and kind of fun and there are a shitload of people in the claasses and the job you really want is on the cool side of the camera.......
One of my gripes with the OWS kids is that they shoulda thought a little harder about the need for graduates in whatever they took out a loan to study.
I was a theater major. I didn't want to build sets or hang par cans.
But you need those guys more.
That's why you get more points for debate than boy's extemp.
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WSS
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But there wasn't a Rove reference. You wrote that Axelrod wrote the words on Obama's prompter. Which kind of makes it hard to pick it on a Rove reference.
You write like shit, and then pretend you're going too fast for us.
Not "us"; you.
WSS
Not "us"; you.
WSS
Okay, sure. Your Axelrod quip was obviously a slight at Democrats and their fixation on Rove circa 2004, and anyone who didn't get it isn't up to your speed.
Whatever helps you get through your day.
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