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  • If we lose out, I'd get a WR with that first pick - both Jeffrey and Blackmon will be better than Jones. Yes, RG3 will be available but we have so many needs that a new QB is neither the answer nor the problem.

    Then Kuechly with our second pick in the first round. If Burfict slips to the top of the second, which isn't implausible given his questionable character, he'd be a great value pick. We also need a pass-rushing RDE and CB help to replace the aging Sheldon.

    We also need a RG at some point - Pashos is not an NFL starter.

  • Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25

    Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.

    If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.

  • RG3 would be the flashy pick, and I would love him to be in Cleveland based on his personality and attitude alone.

    But he doesn't get hit a lot, because he's so damn fast. A QB that doesn't get hit a lot in college doesn't normally translate into a QB who succeeds in the NFL. Cam Newton is like the perfect, prototypical scrambling QB. He is big. fast, and got slammed around a bunch in college. So much so that it's made him just as elusive and adept at shrugging off would-be tacklers in the NFL.

    Guys who never get touched and simply outrun their opponents find that they can't outrun everyone in the NFL, and then they don't know what to do.

  • Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25

    Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.

    If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.

    @represent said:

    Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25

    Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.

    If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.

    +100!!!!!

    what this guy said!

  • Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25

    Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.

    If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.

    @represent said:

    Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25

    Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.

    .

    Yes sir this is how it should be

  • Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25

    Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.

    If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.

    @represent said:

    Blackmon at 4-6 and Minnifield at 22-25

    Address LB OL rest of the draft to hit that crown jewel.

    If i had a way to draft Barkley/Blackmon with two top 10 picks i might make some moves but without some type of ungodly give away of picks that won't happen so i would be happy with Black and Minni with the two picks.

    I would like to see Blackmon and then Zach Brown or Burfict if they slip to our second pick. The reason our linebackers suck is because they are slow. Why the hell would the draft a slow middle linebacker like Luke Keuchly. Manti Te'o is one I like much better than Keuchly but after the other two. Second round I would go either corner like Minnifield/Hosley or a Tackle like Levy Adcock or any others who may have slipped out of the first round.

  • At this point, based on how things fall, the Browns could actually be drafting as high as 4th with their own pick and 22d to 25th with their second pick. Here is the current draft order with today's standings:

    1. Colts

    2. Vikings

    3. Rams (could tie Vikes with loss tonight)

    4 through 9: Browns, Panthers, Redskins, Jags, Dolphins, Buccaneers

    10-13: Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, Seahawks

    14-15: Cardinals, Chargers

    16-21: Bengals, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Cowboys, Bears

    22-25: Falcons (Browns pick), Lions, Broncos, Jets

    26-31: 49ers, Saints, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots.

    32. Packers

    @the-gipper said:

    At this point, based on how things fall, the Browns could actually be drafting as high as 4th with their own pick and 22d to 25th with their second pick. Here is the current draft order with today's standings:

    1. Colts

    2. Vikings

    3. Rams (could tie Vikes with loss tonight)

    4 through 9: Browns, Panthers, Redskins, Jags, Dolphins, Buccaneers

    10-13: Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, Seahawks

    14-15: Cardinals, Chargers

    16-21: Bengals, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Cowboys, Bears

    22-25: Falcons (Browns pick), Lions, Broncos, Jets

    26-31: 49ers, Saints, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots.

    32. Packers

    To be more realistic I believe we will get the 5th pick overall.

  • Don't get me wrong ghoolie...

    But we both agree we have no talent on offense. How can you judge a guy who has no weapons?

    Don't get me wrong, I don't think he is a "franchise qb" but I do think he can be servicable.

  • @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    I would take RG all day long. As long as he is allowed to dictate the offense around him. This WCO if all smoke and mirrors. A play is what transpires after the snap. RG is a guy who can think on his feet. Whoever drafts him needs to let him play HIS game and have plays designed aorund his strengths.

    Picking the WCO ahead of the QB is idiotic.

    As for McCoy, he is qualified to run the Shit in My Pants offense. He can't play.

    I've seen RG3 in the nfl already, his name was Kordell Stewert.

    Plz don't compare to Vick or Newton either.

  • @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    I would take RG all day long. As long as he is allowed to dictate the offense around him. This WCO if all smoke and mirrors. A play is what transpires after the snap. RG is a guy who can think on his feet. Whoever drafts him needs to let him play HIS game and have plays designed aorund his strengths.

    Picking the WCO ahead of the QB is idiotic.

    As for McCoy, he is qualified to run the Shit in My Pants offense. He can't play.

    I would generally agree with you about a guy like RGIII and the WCO, then I think back to Steve Young who was as good a scrambling QB as we have seen, so it makes we wonder if perhaps and RGIII type might fit in.

    Because you know that Holmgren and Shurmur are NOT going to change their offense. The guy is going to have to fit their system, not vice versa.

  • @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    I would take RG all day long. As long as he is allowed to dictate the offense around him. This WCO if all smoke and mirrors. A play is what transpires after the snap. RG is a guy who can think on his feet. Whoever drafts him needs to let him play HIS game and have plays designed aorund his strengths.

    Picking the WCO ahead of the QB is idiotic.

    As for McCoy, he is qualified to run the Shit in My Pants offense. He can't play.

    I've seen RG3 in the nfl already, his name was Kordell Stewert.

    Plz don't compare to Vick or Newton either.

    @represent said:

    I've seen RG3 in the nfl already, his name was Kordell Stewert.

    Plz don't compare to Vick or Newton either.

    Or Andre Ware, or Eric Crouch or Pat White or Dennis Dixon or David Klingler or Danny Wuerffel or Vince Young or Tavaris Jackson or Quincy Carter or Akili Smith or Troy Smith or Chris Weinke or Jason White or Charlie Ward.

    On the other hand, is it possible he could be a Steve McNair or Brett Favre or Donovan McNabb or Josh Freeman or Mike Vick or Cam Newton?

  • getting Offensive talent is mroe important then getting a good QB, in the Browns case. Lets worry about QB in 2013. If we trade down we can fill in 4+ holes which are at LB, CB, DE, WR, RB, RT

  • Thats just it. It's always a gamble. They all look good coming out of college. Remember there was a debate between Manning and Leaf. So really you never know. I just realized the other day that Favre and Marinovich both came out in the same draft.

  • getting Offensive talent is mroe important then getting a good QB, in the Browns case. Lets worry about QB in 2013. If we trade down we can fill in 4+ holes which are at LB, CB, DE, WR, RB, RT

    @hurricane said:

    getting Offensive talent is mroe important then getting a good QB, in the Browns case. Lets worry about QB in 2013. If we trade down we can fill in 4+ holes which are at LB, CB, DE, WR, RB, RT

    I don't want to trade down, but I do agree that we go for LBs, WRs, DBs etc. The Browns should be able to get 3 immediate starters with their first 3 picks.

  • At this point, based on how things fall, the Browns could actually be drafting as high as 4th with their own pick and 22d to 25th with their second pick. Here is the current draft order with today's standings:

    1. Colts

    2. Vikings

    3. Rams (could tie Vikes with loss tonight)

    4 through 9: Browns, Panthers, Redskins, Jags, Dolphins, Buccaneers

    10-13: Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, Seahawks

    14-15: Cardinals, Chargers

    16-21: Bengals, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Cowboys, Bears

    22-25: Falcons (Browns pick), Lions, Broncos, Jets

    26-31: 49ers, Saints, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots.

    32. Packers

    @the-gipper said:

    At this point, based on how things fall, the Browns could actually be drafting as high as 4th with their own pick and 22d to 25th with their second pick. Here is the current draft order with today's standings:

    1. Colts

    2. Vikings

    3. Rams (could tie Vikes with loss tonight)

    4 through 9: Browns, Panthers, Redskins, Jags, Dolphins, Buccaneers

    10-13: Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, Seahawks

    14-15: Cardinals, Chargers

    16-21: Bengals, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Cowboys, Bears

    22-25: Falcons (Browns pick), Lions, Broncos, Jets

    26-31: 49ers, Saints, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots.

    32. Packers

    Yeah, and they better draft offensive skill players in the first three rounds...................or you all just be content sucking hind teat for many more years

  • @the-gipper said:

    At this point, based on how things fall, the Browns could actually be drafting as high as 4th with their own pick and 22d to 25th with their second pick. Here is the current draft order with today's standings:

    1. Colts

    2. Vikings

    3. Rams (could tie Vikes with loss tonight)

    4 through 9: Browns, Panthers, Redskins, Jags, Dolphins, Buccaneers

    10-13: Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, Seahawks

    14-15: Cardinals, Chargers

    16-21: Bengals, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Cowboys, Bears

    22-25: Falcons (Browns pick), Lions, Broncos, Jets

    26-31: 49ers, Saints, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots.

    32. Packers

    Yeah, and they better draft offensive skill players in the first three rounds...................or you all just be content sucking hind teat for many more years

    @rich4eagle said:

    Yeah, and they better draft offensive skill players in the first three rounds...................or you all just be content sucking hind teat for many more years

    "You all". I thought you were one of us Rich?

  • They we can grab a really good Right Tackle with a first pick and the best right Guard with the second...Then we could have ALL FIVE STARTERS BE FIRST ROUND PICKS.....yea baby!!!!

  • @represent said:

    I've seen RG3 in the nfl already, his name was Kordell Stewert.

    Plz don't compare to Vick or Newton either.

    Or Andre Ware, or Eric Crouch or Pat White or Dennis Dixon or David Klingler or Danny Wuerffel or Vince Young or Tavaris Jackson or Quincy Carter or Akili Smith or Troy Smith or Chris Weinke or Jason White or Charlie Ward.

    On the other hand, is it possible he could be a Steve McNair or Brett Favre or Donovan McNabb or Josh Freeman or Mike Vick or Cam Newton?

    @the-gipper said:

    Or Andre Ware, or Eric Crouch or Pat White or Dennis Dixon or David Klingler or Danny Wuerffel or Vince Young or Tavaris Jackson or Quincy Carter or Akili Smith or Troy Smith or Chris Weinke or Jason White or Charlie Ward.

    On the other hand, is it possible he could be a Steve McNair or Brett Favre or Donovan McNabb or Josh Freeman or Mike Vick or Cam Newton?

    McNair possibly... but no thanks.

    Blackmon Minnifield first round picks if they are there, OL LB the entire rest of the draft if we want the most improvement based on the last 2-3 seasons i think you need to address these first.... As for QB man o man it is a pickle but if we can't focus on colts strengths to fit the WCO than we have to cut em loose, but when to deal with it is up in the air.

  • Isnt there any FA QB with good accuracy and an average arm ?

  • Isnt there any FA QB with good accuracy and an average arm ?

    @brownindian said:

    Isnt there any FA QB with good accuracy and an average arm ?

    Yea, how about Drew Brees? He's a FA. He will likely go back to the Saints of course.

    Otherwise you have: Jason Campbell, Matt Flynn, Kyle Orton