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Seneca Wallace Starts, Browns Beat Arizona--What Happens To Colt Mccoy-Poll

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  • Nw220 N
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    N Nw220 wrote on last edited by
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    Take RG3 if hes available in the draft,if not put as many peices around Colt and give him another year to prove himself...

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      hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by
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      He starts once he is healthy

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        JibzJ Jibz wrote on last edited by
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        Knowing Holmgren and his fat lazy decisions (Shurmenr) Colt is our QB for life!

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          TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns wrote on last edited by
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          If it wasn't for drops, an inconsistent O-line, and an actual running game thats threatening, Mccoy is certainly not a bad QB. What the problem is though is that those 3 things I just mentioned are all problems still plagueing the team. Mccoy deserves one more year.

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            Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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            Once McCoy is healthy they will put him back in so that can say without a doubt that he is/isn't our guy... most likely that he isn't our guy. By starting Senacca the rest of the season you just make a group of people who say, "Hey not fair Colt needed more time!" and that is annoying as shit.

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              N Neo wrote on last edited by
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              mikeyP72 said:

              You utilize a time machine and keep him in the game against Pittsburgh last Thursday.

              The DeLorean was destroyed in 1985 πŸ™

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                N Neo wrote on last edited by
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                A lot of smart people voted "Nothing, Colt is the starter. Wallace sucks.

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                  C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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                  Ahahahahahaha first off...Seneca shouldve been starting the whole time

                  Secondly...the browns have far bigger problems to worry about than the QB. If they draft a QB next year it'll be another 10 years of disappointment.

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                    Ahahahahahaha first off...Seneca shouldve been starting the whole time

                    Secondly...the browns have far bigger problems to worry about than the QB. If they draft a QB next year it'll be another 10 years of disappointment.

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                    @cantonlegend said:

                    Ahahahahahaha first off...Seneca shouldve been starting the whole time

                    Secondly...the browns have far bigger problems to worry about than the QB. If they draft a QB next year it'll be another 10 years of disappointment.

                    There is some truth to this.

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                      htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                      Please tell me how drafting a Qb puts you back 10 years. 1 1st round pick puts you back 10 years?!?! Get fucking real!!! Don't be blind.

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                        I think Colt is gone after this season regardless of how Seneca performs or how Colt finishes the season

                        Seneca Wallace Starts, Browns Beat Arizona--What Happens To Colt McCoy-POLL

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                        rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                        @tennreb said:

                        I think Colt is gone after this season regardless of how Seneca performs or how Colt finishes the season

                        Seneca Wallace Starts, Browns Beat Arizona--What Happens To Colt McCoy-POLL

                        man that is so cool, diverting the members to your site................get a life awipe

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                          rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                          Zombo said:

                          If he wins in an offensive explosion, you start him against Baltimore.

                          If he wins against Baltimore, you start him against Pittsburgh.

                          If he wins against Pittsburgh, I will marry him.

                          Zombo

                          finally coming out of the closed eh bubba, I knew it for so many years and just did not want to burst you blow bubble

                          Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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                          • htownbrownH htownbrown

                            Please tell me how drafting a Qb puts you back 10 years. 1 1st round pick puts you back 10 years?!?! Get fucking real!!! Don't be blind.

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                            C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by CantonLegend
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                            @htownbrown said:

                            Please tell me how drafting a Qb puts you back 10 years. 1 1st round pick puts you back 10 years?!?! Get fucking real!!! Don't be blind.

                            It's pretty much guaranteed. You invest a first round pick on a QB...especially a top 10(maybe top 5) pick and it sets Ur team back a decade. The money and time you have to invest in a first round QB means not only are you rebuilding, but you also have to give him time to succeed which could be up to 5 years

                            If he fails in those 5 years you scramble to find a replacement in free agency and begin rebuilding all over again. By the time you get over the fear of drafting another first round QB so much time has gone by

                            It's not true for every position but QBs are an all-in type pick

                            You pick the face of Ur franchise for the next several years and it either works out or it cripples you

                            Examples...Tim couch...Brady Quinn

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                              A lot of smart people voted "Nothing, Colt is the starter. Wallace sucks.

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                              cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                              @neo said:

                              A lot of smart people voted "Nothing, Colt is the starter. Wallace sucks.

                              That's not what i think. Wallace maybe one of if not the best backup in league. but that's his job...this is not an audition.

                              "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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                                @htownbrown said:

                                Please tell me how drafting a Qb puts you back 10 years. 1 1st round pick puts you back 10 years?!?! Get fucking real!!! Don't be blind.

                                It's pretty much guaranteed. You invest a first round pick on a QB...especially a top 10(maybe top 5) pick and it sets Ur team back a decade. The money and time you have to invest in a first round QB means not only are you rebuilding, but you also have to give him time to succeed which could be up to 5 years

                                If he fails in those 5 years you scramble to find a replacement in free agency and begin rebuilding all over again. By the time you get over the fear of drafting another first round QB so much time has gone by

                                It's not true for every position but QBs are an all-in type pick

                                You pick the face of Ur franchise for the next several years and it either works out or it cripples you

                                Examples...Tim couch...Brady Quinn

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                                htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                @cantonlegend said:

                                It's pretty much guaranteed. You invest a first round pick on a QB...especially a top 10(maybe top 5) pick and it sets Ur team back a decade. The money and time you have to invest in a first round QB means not only are you rebuilding, but you also have to give him time to succeed which could be up to 5 years

                                If he fails in those 5 years you scramble to find a replacement in free agency and begin rebuilding all over again. By the time you get over the fear of drafting another first round QB so much time has gone by

                                It's not true for every position but QBs are an all-in type pick

                                You pick the face of Ur franchise for the next several years and it either works out or it cripples you

                                Examples...Tim couch...Brady Quinn

                                First off, your whole argument hinges on the fact that RG3, Luck, or Barkley are busts.

                                Second, the investment has never been cheaper based on new rookie wages.

                                Last of all, you can't be set back anymore than we already are.

                                Watch a game.

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                                  @cantonlegend said:

                                  It's pretty much guaranteed. You invest a first round pick on a QB...especially a top 10(maybe top 5) pick and it sets Ur team back a decade. The money and time you have to invest in a first round QB means not only are you rebuilding, but you also have to give him time to succeed which could be up to 5 years

                                  If he fails in those 5 years you scramble to find a replacement in free agency and begin rebuilding all over again. By the time you get over the fear of drafting another first round QB so much time has gone by

                                  It's not true for every position but QBs are an all-in type pick

                                  You pick the face of Ur franchise for the next several years and it either works out or it cripples you

                                  Examples...Tim couch...Brady Quinn

                                  First off, your whole argument hinges on the fact that RG3, Luck, or Barkley are busts.

                                  Second, the investment has never been cheaper based on new rookie wages.

                                  Last of all, you can't be set back anymore than we already are.

                                  Watch a game.

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                                  C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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                                  @htownbrown said:

                                  First off, your whole argument hinges on the fact that RG3, Luck, or Barkley are busts.

                                  Second, the investment has never been cheaper based on new rookie wages.

                                  Last of all, you can't be set back anymore than we already are.

                                  Watch a game.

                                  This argument assumes a first round QB being a bust but with the team the browns have now, they need way way more than a QB

                                  Colt or Seneca is good enough to get the brownies through this stage of rebuilding

                                  No they aren't franchise QBs but you don't draft a franchise QB when the rest of Ur team is garbage. The browns are terrible from top to bottom except for a handful of players like Joe thomas and Alex Mack.

                                  Of course the browns are terrible...don't you want them to get better? Drafting a QB means Ur ignoring all the other issues that are far more pressing.

                                  I watch every game...apparently more than you because you don't understand how to fundamentally build a team

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                                    @htownbrown said:

                                    First off, your whole argument hinges on the fact that RG3, Luck, or Barkley are busts.

                                    Second, the investment has never been cheaper based on new rookie wages.

                                    Last of all, you can't be set back anymore than we already are.

                                    Watch a game.

                                    This argument assumes a first round QB being a bust but with the team the browns have now, they need way way more than a QB

                                    Colt or Seneca is good enough to get the brownies through this stage of rebuilding

                                    No they aren't franchise QBs but you don't draft a franchise QB when the rest of Ur team is garbage. The browns are terrible from top to bottom except for a handful of players like Joe thomas and Alex Mack.

                                    Of course the browns are terrible...don't you want them to get better? Drafting a QB means Ur ignoring all the other issues that are far more pressing.

                                    I watch every game...apparently more than you because you don't understand how to fundamentally build a team

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                                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @cantonlegend said:

                                    This argument assumes a first round QB being a bust but with the team the browns have now, they need way way more than a QB

                                    Colt or Seneca is good enough to get the brownies through this stage of rebuilding

                                    No they aren't franchise QBs but you don't draft a franchise QB when the rest of Ur team is garbage. The browns are terrible from top to bottom except for a handful of players like Joe thomas and Alex Mack.

                                    Of course the browns are terrible...don't you want them to get better? Drafting a QB means Ur ignoring all the other issues that are far more pressing.

                                    I watch every game...apparently more than you because you don't understand how to fundamentally build a team

                                    that argument is so so wrong, wow. Look at every team that has gotten good, and there's always a clear pattern there. Despite the needs of the team, a franchise QB is need number 1. Do you think the colts were good before they drafted peyton? saints before the trade for brees? Falcons before Ryan? A franchise QB is the quintessential piece in framing a team in today's NFL, period. There's no argument you can make against it. Colt is a game manager QB and that type of QB is gone from the NFL. Without a guy who can sling the rock around that team is never going to win a championship. The only true exception to this right now is the 49ers and I think they'll be out before the NFC championship game. The argument that investing in a bad QB that ends up sucking is obviously true, it doesn't take a football guru to point out that genius piece of info. But nearly every starting QB in the NFL has been a high 1st round QB (Brady and Brees being the exceptions, and Brees was still early 2nd)

                                    If you honestly think having a franchise QB isn't the most important part of a winning NFL team you have no business talking football. It's not ignoring other needs when QB is a need in and of itself.

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                                      @cantonlegend said:

                                      This argument assumes a first round QB being a bust but with the team the browns have now, they need way way more than a QB

                                      Colt or Seneca is good enough to get the brownies through this stage of rebuilding

                                      No they aren't franchise QBs but you don't draft a franchise QB when the rest of Ur team is garbage. The browns are terrible from top to bottom except for a handful of players like Joe thomas and Alex Mack.

                                      Of course the browns are terrible...don't you want them to get better? Drafting a QB means Ur ignoring all the other issues that are far more pressing.

                                      I watch every game...apparently more than you because you don't understand how to fundamentally build a team

                                      that argument is so so wrong, wow. Look at every team that has gotten good, and there's always a clear pattern there. Despite the needs of the team, a franchise QB is need number 1. Do you think the colts were good before they drafted peyton? saints before the trade for brees? Falcons before Ryan? A franchise QB is the quintessential piece in framing a team in today's NFL, period. There's no argument you can make against it. Colt is a game manager QB and that type of QB is gone from the NFL. Without a guy who can sling the rock around that team is never going to win a championship. The only true exception to this right now is the 49ers and I think they'll be out before the NFC championship game. The argument that investing in a bad QB that ends up sucking is obviously true, it doesn't take a football guru to point out that genius piece of info. But nearly every starting QB in the NFL has been a high 1st round QB (Brady and Brees being the exceptions, and Brees was still early 2nd)

                                      If you honestly think having a franchise QB isn't the most important part of a winning NFL team you have no business talking football. It's not ignoring other needs when QB is a need in and of itself.

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                                      C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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                                      @jrb12711 said:

                                      that argument is so so wrong, wow. Look at every team that has gotten good, and there's always a clear pattern there. Despite the needs of the team, a franchise QB is need number 1. Do you think the colts were good before they drafted peyton? saints before the trade for brees? Falcons before Ryan?

                                      Actually the colts were still bad with manning in his first seasons...why not give colt that kind of confidence? The saints also brought a stellar draft class in with drew who was not a draft pick...he was a free agent. The falcons were a competitive team before drafting Matt Ryan so Ur wrong about that one

                                      A franchise QB is the quintessential piece in framing a team in today's NFL, period. There's no argument you can make against it. Colt is a game manager QB and that type of QB is gone from the NFL. Without a guy who can sling the rock around that team is never going to win a championship. The only true exception to this right now is the 49ers and I think they'll be out before the NFC championship game. The argument that investing in a bad QB that ends up sucking is obviously true, it doesn't take a football guru to point out that genius piece of info. But nearly every starting QB in the NFL has been a high 1st round QB (Brady and Brees being the exceptions, and Brees was still early 2nd)

                                      If you honestly think having a franchise QB isn't the most important part of a winning NFL team you have no business talking football. It's not ignoring other needs when QB is a need in and of itself.

                                      first off...colt has great accuracy and that's the most important attribute for any QB in a west coast offense. He throws far too much to be just a game manager and this is only his first full season as a starter. Not only that but he has scrubs that he's throwing the ball to. Why not try and help a prior investment than start from scratch be drafting a completely new QB?

                                      Colt and Seneca are both good enough to play in the NFL. QBs like Brady brees and manning don't come around very often so if Ur hoping for a guy like that keep dreaming. If you want a guy who can win games you already have it in colt McCoy. The problem is he has nobody to throw it to and nobody blocking for him

                                      Joe Thomas and Alex Mack are great but 2 out of 11 guys on offense aren't going to carry a team to the playoffs

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                                        @htownbrown said:

                                        First off, your whole argument hinges on the fact that RG3, Luck, or Barkley are busts.

                                        Second, the investment has never been cheaper based on new rookie wages.

                                        Last of all, you can't be set back anymore than we already are.

                                        Watch a game.

                                        This argument assumes a first round QB being a bust but with the team the browns have now, they need way way more than a QB

                                        Colt or Seneca is good enough to get the brownies through this stage of rebuilding

                                        No they aren't franchise QBs but you don't draft a franchise QB when the rest of Ur team is garbage. The browns are terrible from top to bottom except for a handful of players like Joe thomas and Alex Mack.

                                        Of course the browns are terrible...don't you want them to get better? Drafting a QB means Ur ignoring all the other issues that are far more pressing.

                                        I watch every game...apparently more than you because you don't understand how to fundamentally build a team

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                                        htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                        @cantonlegend said:

                                        This argument assumes a first round QB being a bust but with the team the browns have now, they need way way more than a QB

                                        Colt or Seneca is good enough to get the brownies through this stage of rebuilding

                                        No they aren't franchise QBs but you don't draft a franchise QB when the rest of Ur team is garbage. The browns are terrible from top to bottom except for a handful of players like Joe thomas and Alex Mack.

                                        Of course the browns are terrible...don't you want them to get better? Drafting a QB means Ur ignoring all the other issues that are far more pressing.

                                        I watch every game...apparently more than you because you don't understand how to fundamentally build a team

                                        You build an offense and in many ways a team around a qb. You draft players for him, you design plays for him. He is the offense. If he sucks, the offense sucks. Stop acting like it takes a decade to build a team. You've bought too far into the Holmgrenomics.

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                                          @cantonlegend said:

                                          This argument assumes a first round QB being a bust but with the team the browns have now, they need way way more than a QB

                                          Colt or Seneca is good enough to get the brownies through this stage of rebuilding

                                          No they aren't franchise QBs but you don't draft a franchise QB when the rest of Ur team is garbage. The browns are terrible from top to bottom except for a handful of players like Joe thomas and Alex Mack.

                                          Of course the browns are terrible...don't you want them to get better? Drafting a QB means Ur ignoring all the other issues that are far more pressing.

                                          I watch every game...apparently more than you because you don't understand how to fundamentally build a team

                                          You build an offense and in many ways a team around a qb. You draft players for him, you design plays for him. He is the offense. If he sucks, the offense sucks. Stop acting like it takes a decade to build a team. You've bought too far into the Holmgrenomics.

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                                          C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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                                          @htownbrown said:

                                          You build an offense and in many ways a team around a qb. You draft players for him, you design plays for him. He is the offense. If he sucks, the offense sucks. Stop acting like it takes a decade to build a team. You've bought too far into the Holmgrenomics.

                                          And u r buying too much into espn. There are 53 guys on a team. The QB may be the leader but you can't win w just a QB. You are the type of person that really thinks Tebow is winning all these games for Denver huh?

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