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  • The best Browns first round pick hasn't declared yet...

    but I wonder where he will be projected to go in the first round? Could the Browns trade down a little, pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd this year...

    and still get this kid?

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    Aaron Maybin Scouting Report

    Projected Draft Position

    by FFToolbox Writers

    Position: DE

    School & Year/Status: Penn State - Sophomore

    Height & Weight: 6'4 - 236 lbs.

    2009 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:

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    Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State

    Aaron Maybin has wasted no time in becoming one of the most productive pass rushers in college football. Maybin was highly recruited out of high school in Maryland, and came to Penn State in 2006. After redshirting his first year on campus, Maybin played in every game of his redshirt freshman year. He recorded 12 tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, 1 forced fumble, and broke up a pass in coverage, in 13 games last season. Maybin came out of high school weighing only 220 pounds, but has already added 16 pounds of muscle. He has the frame to add more bulk without losing any speed, which is something NFL scouts will be looking at. Maybin has outstanding speed for his size, and is much stronger than his size would suggest. He does his best work coming off the edge and simply running by offensive tackles. Maybin isn't only a speed rusher though. He has excellent technique, and does a good job of using his hands to keep blocker from cutting his feet out from under him. Maybin is taking full advantage of his starting role this season, having tallied 35 tackles, 15.5 tackles for loss, 11 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, and even breaking up 2 passes in coverage. Maybin will be watched closely by NFL GMs because he's not only an excellent defensive end prospect, but his size and athleticism would make the transition to 3-4 outside linebacker a fairly easy one. If Maybin declares and has a good combine, he could go as high as the second round.

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    PSU Football Notebook: Maybin center of attention for Trojans

    Monday, December 29, 2008

    By Ron Musselman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    LOS ANGELES -- Penn State All-American defensive end Aaron Maybin was a no-show yesterday, but Southern California's players and coaches are well aware of how destructive he can be on the field.

    He finished the season with 12 sacks, the fourth-best total in the country.

    "The biggest thing that impresses me about the guy -- obviously he's a tremendous athlete -- is his effort," Southern California offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian said. "He plays hard. He plays football the way you want it to be played.

    "He doesn't slow up."

    Maybin, 6 feet 4 and 235 pounds, was a first-team All-Big Ten pick. He finished sixth in the nation with 19 tackles for losses and forced a team-high three fumbles.

    Trojans quarterback Mark Sanchez said it's hard not to notice Maybin when he watches tape of Penn State.

    "The guy is sprinting all over the field," Sanchez said. "I haven't seen him walk once. I haven't seen him bend over and put the hands on his hips, a sign that you're tired. He's a phenomenal athlete.

    "He's going to be fun to play against. Hopefully he doesn't get his hands on me."

    Maybin was running with the second team Saturday after violating a team rule and then did not attend yesterday's Rose Bowl news conference.

    "When we start warmups, he's with the first team," Penn State defensive tackle Jared Odrick said.

    Maybin, a redshirt sophomore, and Odrick, a junior first-team All-Big Ten selection, are awaiting feedback from the NFL draft advisory committee before deciding if they are going to leave school a year early.

    Maybin is projected as a first-round pick, while Odrick is expected to go in the second or third round.

    @calfoxwc said:

    The best Browns first round pick hasn't declared yet...

    but I wonder where he will be projected to go in the first round? Could the Browns trade down a little, pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd this year...

    and still get this kid?

    **********************************************

    Aaron Maybin Scouting Report

    Projected Draft Position

    by FFToolbox Writers

    Position: DE

    School & Year/Status: Penn State - Sophomore

    Height & Weight: 6'4 - 236 lbs.

    2009 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:

    person

    Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State

    Aaron Maybin has wasted no time in becoming one of the most productive pass rushers in college football. Maybin was highly recruited out of high school in Maryland, and came to Penn State in 2006. After redshirting his first year on campus, Maybin played in every game of his redshirt freshman year. He recorded 12 tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, 1 forced fumble, and broke up a pass in coverage, in 13 games last season. Maybin came out of high school weighing only 220 pounds, but has already added 16 pounds of muscle. He has the frame to add more bulk without losing any speed, which is something NFL scouts will be looking at. Maybin has outstanding speed for his size, and is much stronger than his size would suggest. He does his best work coming off the edge and simply running by offensive tackles. Maybin isn't only a speed rusher though. He has excellent technique, and does a good job of using his hands to keep blocker from cutting his feet out from under him. Maybin is taking full advantage of his starting role this season, having tallied 35 tackles, 15.5 tackles for loss, 11 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, and even breaking up 2 passes in coverage. Maybin will be watched closely by NFL GMs because he's not only an excellent defensive end prospect, but his size and athleticism would make the transition to 3-4 outside linebacker a fairly easy one. If Maybin declares and has a good combine, he could go as high as the second round.

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    PSU Football Notebook: Maybin center of attention for Trojans

    Monday, December 29, 2008

    By Ron Musselman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    LOS ANGELES -- Penn State All-American defensive end Aaron Maybin was a no-show yesterday, but Southern California's players and coaches are well aware of how destructive he can be on the field.

    He finished the season with 12 sacks, the fourth-best total in the country.

    "The biggest thing that impresses me about the guy -- obviously he's a tremendous athlete -- is his effort," Southern California offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian said. "He plays hard. He plays football the way you want it to be played.

    "He doesn't slow up."

    Maybin, 6 feet 4 and 235 pounds, was a first-team All-Big Ten pick. He finished sixth in the nation with 19 tackles for losses and forced a team-high three fumbles.

    Trojans quarterback Mark Sanchez said it's hard not to notice Maybin when he watches tape of Penn State.

    "The guy is sprinting all over the field," Sanchez said. "I haven't seen him walk once. I haven't seen him bend over and put the hands on his hips, a sign that you're tired. He's a phenomenal athlete.

    "He's going to be fun to play against. Hopefully he doesn't get his hands on me."

    Maybin was running with the second team Saturday after violating a team rule and then did not attend yesterday's Rose Bowl news conference.

    "When we start warmups, he's with the first team," Penn State defensive tackle Jared Odrick said.

    Maybin, a redshirt sophomore, and Odrick, a junior first-team All-Big Ten selection, are awaiting feedback from the NFL draft advisory committee before deciding if they are going to leave school a year early.

    Maybin is projected as a first-round pick, while Odrick is expected to go in the second or third round.

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    Is better and would be a great pick up

  • Penn State is a real NFL factory. 🙄

  • I'm sorry you had to put so much time into that, Z.

    So, which of those guys, especially the top picks, is/was worth a squirt of piss? And don't go all Jack Ham/Curt Warner on me, 'neither. I want something recent. Larry Johnson. That's it. Maybe Poz.

    How dare you "bold" Tamba Hali, Bryant Johnson, Kyle Brady, OJ McDuffie but not Courtney Brown, Curtis Enis, KiJana Carter, Blair Thomas???

    Penn St is practically Bust U.

  • I guess Hali (bust) is/was better than Courtney Brown (mega-bust).

    Perhaps I guess I should have stated that quality counts. I can't think of another school that produces more NFL busts than Penn State. Can you?

    Here are Penn State draftees from rounds 1 and 2, rounds where you need to get quality.

    2007 1 5 5 Levi Brown Cardinals T, 2 2 34 Paul Posluszny Bills LB. Jury still out.

    2006 1 20 20 Tamba Hali Chiefs DE. Brutal.

    2003 was a vintage year for Penn State busts. 1 12 12 Jimmy Kennedy Rams DT, 1 14 14 Michael Haynes Bears DE (out of the NFL), 1 17 17 Bryant Johnson Cardinals WR, 1 27 27 Larry Johnson Chiefs RB, 2 23 55 Bryan Scott Falcons DB and 2 25 57 Anthony Adams 49ers DT. Just wow.

    2000 1 1 1 Courtney Brown Browns DE, 1 2 2 LaVar Arrington Redskins LB. Another solid PSU bust year.

    1998 1 5 5 Curtis Enis Bears RB, 2 25 55 Joe Jurevicius Giants WR. When Joey J. is the biggest "non-bust" so far, you start to get the point.

    1997 2 28 58 Kim Herring Ravens DB. OK.

    1996 1 23 23 Jeff Hartings Lions G (solid), 1 30 30 Andre Johnson Redskins T (who?), 2 22 52 Bobby Engram Bears WR (solid). Probably PSU's best draft.

    1995 1 1 1 Ki-Jana Carter Bengals RB, 1 5 5 Kerry Collins Panthers QB, 1 9 9 Kyle Brady Jets TE. Some prototypical busts here.

    Need I continue? Didn't even get to Tony Sacca and Blair Thomas...

  • I guess I would classify "bust" as a guy who doesn't come close to justifying his draft position with his play.

    As much as I hate OSU, their track-record for 1st round picks panning out seems much better to me than PSU.

    2008 1 6 6 Vernon Gholston Jets DE

    2007 1 9 9 Ted Ginn Jr. Dolphins WR, 1 32 32 Anthony Gonzalez Colts WR

    2006 1 5 5 A.J. Hawk Packers LB, 1 8 8 Donte Whitner Bills DB, 1 18 18 Bobby Carpenter Cowboys LB, 1 25 25 Santonio Holmes Steelers WR, 1 29 29 Nick Mangold Jets C

    2004 1 18 18 Will Smith Saints DE, 1 28 28 Chris Gamble Panthers DB, 1 29 29 Michael Jenkins Falcons WR

    2003 2 26 58 Mike Doss Colts DB

    2002 2 12 44 LeCharles Bentley Saints C

    2001 1 21 21 Nate Clements Bills DB, 1 29 29 Ryan Pickett Rams DE

    2000 1 24 24 Ahmed Plummer 49ers DB

    1999 1 8 8 David Boston Cardinals WR, 1 23 23 Antoine Winfield Bills DB, 1 28 28 Andy Katzenmoyer Patriots LB, 2 18 49 Joe Montgomery Giants RB

    1997 1 1 1 Orlando Pace Rams T, 1 3 3 Shawn Springs Seahawks DB, 2 3 33 Rob Kelly Saints DB

    1996 1 7 7 Terry Glenn Patriots WR, 1 9 9 Rickey Dudley Raiders TE, 1 14 14 Eddie George

    1995 1 8 8 Joey Galloway Seahawks WR, 1 24 24 Korey Stringer Vikings T, 1 30 30 Craig Powell Browns LB

    Sure, there are busts in here (Doss, Plummer, Dudley, Powell, class of 1999...wow), but this looks MUCH better to me.

    I didn't classify Collins as a bust. He just happened to be in that Carter/Brady draft class. Arrington was an injury casualty. So not a true bust, per se (I'd classify him the same I would LeCharles Bentley).

    But pretty much everything else at PSU, save for Poz and maybe Levi Brown, was a washout, especially when taking draft position into consideration.

    BOTTOM LINE: I'm hoping we avoid this Maybin guy like the plague.

  • Shit, you're better off investing in Syracuse guys...

    2007 4 106 Tanard Jackson CB Buccaneers

    2006 3 83 Anthony Smith S Steelers

    2005 2 64 Adam Terry OT Ravens

    2002 1 11 Dwight Freeney DE Colts

    2001 1 22 Will Allen DB Giants

    2000 1 30 Keith Bulluck LB Titans

    1999 1 2 Donovan McNabb QB Eagles

    1999 2 32 Kevin Johnson WR Browns

    1999 2 43 Rob Konrad RB Dolphins

    1998 1 22 Tebucky Jones DB Patriots

    1998 1 25 Donovin Darius DB Jaguars

  • The Syracuse post was a joke. I know how shitty the program has been. And those were selected picks. 🙂

    And you'd be pleased if the Browns drafted Kyle Brady ninth overall???? You'd murder somebody.

  • It wasn't Brady's fault he was drafted there, but it just serves as another reminder of how overrated PSU players are coming out of college, that's all. Brady's like a better Mark Bruener...

    And I can find a blocking TE in the later rounds.

  • notes from watching oregon:

    two players really stood out to me: patrick chung and t.j. ward, both of oregon's safeties. they're both smaller guys, 5'11", and chung's got 20 pounds on ward, 210 to 190, but both are absolutely huge hitters. they flat-out demolish people. the guys they hit bounce off the turf. it's fantastic to watch. they also support the run well and come up to level RBs before they can get through the secondary. most of the time, they were there within six yards of the LOS.

    chung had a pass interference penalty called on him when he had to defend a slot WR running a wheel route. it wasn't the most egregious penalty ever and wasn't nearly as bad as william moore looked in coverage against northwestern. chung's gonna be a solid guy. definitely the second-best in the draft after mays.

    t.j. ward is only a redshirt junior, so he may or may not be coming out this year. based on his low weight, i think he'll stay another year if he wants to be a serious candidate for the NFL.

    i didn't specifically watch unger, but the ducks ran all over oklahoma state. their QB and one RB went over 100 yards and another guy had 70+, so i'd say unger blocks pretty well.

    jeremiah johnson, their RB, backed up jonathan stewart last year, and is a decent RB. he's solid, not spectacular. he doesn't really make people miss all that much or run them over, but he's a jack of all trades and does everything well. good hands, good vision.

    two oregon offensive players looked good: lagarrette blount, a junior RB, and jeremiah masoli, their sophomore QB. blount is a big guy (6'2", 238) and runs with power, dragging people and bowling them over on his way to the end zone. brandon jacobs.

    masoli won't cut it in the NFL, which is a shame. he's only 5'11", which means he's a slot receiver if he can learn the position. however, he runs with power. he destroyed a oklahoma state DB. completely knocked him on his ass on his way to the end zone. has great vision, too.

    one last guy whose name i heard called quite a few times was junior defensive end will tukuafu, who goes 6'4", 278. he had at least one sack and stopped another run behind the LOS. definitely worth a look as a 3-4 DE. he has the size and has produced on the field.

  • notes from watching oregon:

    two players really stood out to me: patrick chung and t.j. ward, both of oregon's safeties. they're both smaller guys, 5'11", and chung's got 20 pounds on ward, 210 to 190, but both are absolutely huge hitters. they flat-out demolish people. the guys they hit bounce off the turf. it's fantastic to watch. they also support the run well and come up to level RBs before they can get through the secondary. most of the time, they were there within six yards of the LOS.

    chung had a pass interference penalty called on him when he had to defend a slot WR running a wheel route. it wasn't the most egregious penalty ever and wasn't nearly as bad as william moore looked in coverage against northwestern. chung's gonna be a solid guy. definitely the second-best in the draft after mays.

    t.j. ward is only a redshirt junior, so he may or may not be coming out this year. based on his low weight, i think he'll stay another year if he wants to be a serious candidate for the NFL.

    i didn't specifically watch unger, but the ducks ran all over oklahoma state. their QB and one RB went over 100 yards and another guy had 70+, so i'd say unger blocks pretty well.

    jeremiah johnson, their RB, backed up jonathan stewart last year, and is a decent RB. he's solid, not spectacular. he doesn't really make people miss all that much or run them over, but he's a jack of all trades and does everything well. good hands, good vision.

    two oregon offensive players looked good: lagarrette blount, a junior RB, and jeremiah masoli, their sophomore QB. blount is a big guy (6'2", 238) and runs with power, dragging people and bowling them over on his way to the end zone. brandon jacobs.

    masoli won't cut it in the NFL, which is a shame. he's only 5'11", which means he's a slot receiver if he can learn the position. however, he runs with power. he destroyed a oklahoma state DB. completely knocked him on his ass on his way to the end zone. has great vision, too.

    one last guy whose name i heard called quite a few times was junior defensive end will tukuafu, who goes 6'4", 278. he had at least one sack and stopped another run behind the LOS. definitely worth a look as a 3-4 DE. he has the size and has produced on the field.

    @jewdago said:

    notes from watching oregon:

    two players really stood out to me: patrick chung and t.j. ward, both of oregon's safeties. they're both smaller guys, 5'11", and chung's got 20 pounds on ward, 210 to 190, but both are absolutely huge hitters. they flat-out demolish people. the guys they hit bounce off the turf. it's fantastic to watch. they also support the run well and come up to level RBs before they can get through the secondary. most of the time, they were there within six yards of the LOS.

    chung had a pass interference penalty called on him when he had to defend a slot WR running a wheel route. it wasn't the most egregious penalty ever and wasn't nearly as bad as william moore looked in coverage against northwestern. chung's gonna be a solid guy. definitely the second-best in the draft after mays.

    Yeah, I have been talking about Chung for a while now. He strikes me as a Troy Palamalu type guy. In the first half he tackled the 260 lb TE and flattened the guy...and Chung didn't even go down. He gave up 60 lbs and won easily. He seemed to have decent speed as well.

    I would love a combo of Curry and Chung for rounds 1 and 2...and then get whatever we can for DA and Winslow to snag a RB and DE.

  • notes from watching oregon:

    two players really stood out to me: patrick chung and t.j. ward, both of oregon's safeties. they're both smaller guys, 5'11", and chung's got 20 pounds on ward, 210 to 190, but both are absolutely huge hitters. they flat-out demolish people. the guys they hit bounce off the turf. it's fantastic to watch. they also support the run well and come up to level RBs before they can get through the secondary. most of the time, they were there within six yards of the LOS.

    chung had a pass interference penalty called on him when he had to defend a slot WR running a wheel route. it wasn't the most egregious penalty ever and wasn't nearly as bad as william moore looked in coverage against northwestern. chung's gonna be a solid guy. definitely the second-best in the draft after mays.

    t.j. ward is only a redshirt junior, so he may or may not be coming out this year. based on his low weight, i think he'll stay another year if he wants to be a serious candidate for the NFL.

    i didn't specifically watch unger, but the ducks ran all over oklahoma state. their QB and one RB went over 100 yards and another guy had 70+, so i'd say unger blocks pretty well.

    jeremiah johnson, their RB, backed up jonathan stewart last year, and is a decent RB. he's solid, not spectacular. he doesn't really make people miss all that much or run them over, but he's a jack of all trades and does everything well. good hands, good vision.

    two oregon offensive players looked good: lagarrette blount, a junior RB, and jeremiah masoli, their sophomore QB. blount is a big guy (6'2", 238) and runs with power, dragging people and bowling them over on his way to the end zone. brandon jacobs.

    masoli won't cut it in the NFL, which is a shame. he's only 5'11", which means he's a slot receiver if he can learn the position. however, he runs with power. he destroyed a oklahoma state DB. completely knocked him on his ass on his way to the end zone. has great vision, too.

    one last guy whose name i heard called quite a few times was junior defensive end will tukuafu, who goes 6'4", 278. he had at least one sack and stopped another run behind the LOS. definitely worth a look as a 3-4 DE. he has the size and has produced on the field.

    @jewdago said:

    notes from watching oregon:

    two players really stood out to me: patrick chung and t.j. ward, both of oregon's safeties. they're both smaller guys, 5'11", and chung's got 20 pounds on ward, 210 to 190, but both are absolutely huge hitters. they flat-out demolish people. the guys they hit bounce off the turf. it's fantastic to watch. they also support the run well and come up to level RBs before they can get through the secondary. most of the time, they were there within six yards of the LOS.

    chung had a pass interference penalty called on him when he had to defend a slot WR running a wheel route. it wasn't the most egregious penalty ever and wasn't nearly as bad as william moore looked in coverage against northwestern. chung's gonna be a solid guy. definitely the second-best in the draft after mays.

    t.j. ward is only a redshirt junior, so he may or may not be coming out this year. based on his low weight, i think he'll stay another year if he wants to be a serious candidate for the NFL.

    i didn't specifically watch unger, but the ducks ran all over oklahoma state. their QB and one RB went over 100 yards and another guy had 70+, so i'd say unger blocks pretty well.

    jeremiah johnson, their RB, backed up jonathan stewart last year, and is a decent RB. he's solid, not spectacular. he doesn't really make people miss all that much or run them over, but he's a jack of all trades and does everything well. good hands, good vision.

    two oregon offensive players looked good: lagarrette blount, a junior RB, and jeremiah masoli, their sophomore QB. blount is a big guy (6'2", 238) and runs with power, dragging people and bowling them over on his way to the end zone. brandon jacobs.

    jeremiah johnson won't cut it in the NFL, which is a shame. he's only 5'11", which means he's a slot receiver if he can learn the position. however, he runs with power. he destroyed a oklahoma state DB. completely knocked him on his ass on his way to the end zone. has great vision, too.

    one last guy whose name i heard called quite a few times was junior defensive end will tukuafu, who goes 6'4", 278. he had at least one sack and stopped another run behind the LOS. definitely worth a look as a 3-4 DE. he has the size and has produced on the field.

    Jeremiah johnson was considered the better back when Stewart was still at Oregon so that is saying something about him. He will be a great pro in a 2 back system.

    Masoli is only a sophomore so he has plenty of time.

  • Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to watch the Oregon game. Thanks for the putting together a writeup on what you noticed, JD. It's good to hear that Chung looked solid in the game.

    Blount's going to be a stud in the NFL. Ever since someone sent me this clip earlier this year, I've been hoping that he'd declare for this year's draft.

    I'm guessing he returns to Oregon for another year & ends up being a 2010 1st Round pick.

    Hadn't heard of DE Will Tukuafu before you mentioned him, but he sounds like an interesting prospect. He's only a junior, so we'll have to keep an eye on him next season.

  • Tony Pauline put together a great list of prospects to watch in tomorrow's game.

    I can't do better than that, so I'll just recommend you guys check out his Prospects to Watch list.

  • Ready for Rey tonight anyone?

  • Ready for Rey tonight anyone?

    @playgroundlegend said:

    Ready for Rey tonight anyone?

    I am not sold on Rey, but I am interested in watching more of him tonight.

    Anyone watching the Mich St/Georgia game? Great defensive battle. Ringer has looked okay, Moreno has looked better...no surprise there. Hoyer (Cleveland kid) has played a smart football game so far. Hope Mich. St. can pull it out. It would be a huge upset.

    Mich St. now leads 6 - 3.

  • It's official. Shonn Greene will declare for the draft.

  • Also declaring: South Carolina DE-OLB Eric Norwood:

    He'll be a interesting guy to consider taking in the Round 2/3 range.

  • J JC

    @playgroundlegend said:

    Ready for Rey tonight anyone?

    I am not sold on Rey, but I am interested in watching more of him tonight.

    Anyone watching the Mich St/Georgia game? Great defensive battle. Ringer has looked okay, Moreno has looked better...no surprise there. Hoyer (Cleveland kid) has played a smart football game so far. Hope Mich. St. can pull it out. It would be a huge upset.

    Mich St. now leads 6 - 3.

    @jc said:

    I am not sold on Rey, but I am interested in watching more of him tonight.

    Not sure I've heard Rey's name called all game...

    In other USC news, Sanchez is a STUD.

  • Orion Martin #90 from VT looks good he has a nose for the ball and plays smart, looks to have good speed and agility and might be one of those tweeners that could play in the 3-4

    possibly middle to late round guy we will have to wait and see what the combine produces.

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    for video follow the this link but you will need to add the busted screen play against CIN. that he intercepted!

    http://virginiatech.rivals.com/cviewplayer...er=51266#videos

  • i have to mention taylor mays in this thread. after the way he showed up against penn state, he's got to be on our radar.

    when picking in the top 10, you've got to be on the lookout for a special player if he presents himself. mays is that guy. i was fulll-on curry because i hadn't seen mays play in a while. i'm torn now. curry will be solid. mays can be spectacular and should be good at the worst.

    he hits so hard that you can feel it through the television and is fast enough to make almost any play.