Taylor Becoming A Disappointment With The 1St Pick
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Run D requires the entire front 7/8 working together to stick all the gaps. Taylor is a beast, and he is a great big part of the reason the Browns D is as good as it is. Yes, they still get run on occasionally - because the Browns have one of the worst LB groups in the league. No single player is going to shut down a run game.. the Lions have Suh and they still get run on.
Taylor is more than meeting expectations.. he's a big part of the Browns moving forward.
Calling it here first: A Browns DL will make the Pro Bowl after next season.
Run D requires the entire front 7/8 working together to stick all the gaps. Taylor is a beast, and he is a great big part of the reason the Browns D is as good as it is. Yes, they still get run on occasionally - because the Browns have one of the worst LB groups in the league. No single player is going to shut down a run game.. the Lions have Suh and they still get run on.
Taylor is more than meeting expectations.. he's a big part of the Browns moving forward.
Calling it here first: A Browns DL will make the Pro Bowl after next season.
J.S might goto the probowl this year bro.
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Very interesting but you don't judge DTs by stats
What do you judge them by then (serious question)? I don't see any measurements/criterion in your response. I mention double-teams and list tackles and sack numbers.
Taylor does take on blockers...he can rush the QB.....and he's without a doubt the best defensive lineman the browns have this year.
Rubin is our best lineman this year, that much is clear.
And...Rubin's stats are better:
Ahtyba Rubin CLE DT Tackles 67 Sacks 3.0
c-dawg said:
What do you judge them by then (serious question)? I don't see any measurements/criterion in your response. I mention double-teams and list tackles and sack numbers.
Rubin is our best lineman this year, that much is clear.
And...Rubin's stats are better:
Ahtyba Rubin CLE DT Tackles 67 Sacks 3.0
You can't judge success of defensive linemen by stats because their jobs rarely involve making tackles. Just like offensive linemen, defensive tackles are the guys in the trenches that make other ppl look better
The reason Jackson has so many tackles is partly because Phil Taylor is so good at keepin blockers off of Jackson.
It's not a very glorious role to play but defensive tackles, especially good ones, can make a defense very very dominant
Phil Taylor is a huge reason why the browns defense finds success
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Thanks for an insightful post. The amount of negativity and lack of football knowledge on these boards is getting frustrating. I remember when there used to be logical discussion in this forum.
Not to mention Sheard adds 5 forced fumbles which leads the league to those 7.5 sacks. He should finish 2nd in defensive rookie of the year voting behind Von Miller, also a freak.
Not to mention Sheard adds 5 forced fumbles which leads the league to those 7.5 sacks. He should finish 2nd in defensive rookie of the year voting behind Von Miller, also a freak.
Dont forget Aldon Smith who also has 10.5 sacks with Miller but who has played only half the amount of snaps that Von Miller has...
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Not to mention Sheard adds 5 forced fumbles which leads the league to those 7.5 sacks. He should finish 2nd in defensive rookie of the year voting behind Von Miller, also a freak.
Dont forget Aldon Smith who also has 10.5 sacks with Miller but who has played only half the amount of snaps that Von Miller has...
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Aldon Smith benefits by being on the same defense as Pat Willis where's Von Miller IS Denver's Pat Willis.
Are you serious you must not be watching the game tonight Pat Willis isnt playing and Aldon Smith is eating Big Ben alive...Every play hes getting pressure
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Aldon Smith benefits by being on the same defense as Pat Willis where's Von Miller IS Denver's Pat Willis.
Are you serious you must not be watching the game tonight Pat Willis isnt playing and Aldon Smith is eating Big Ben alive...Every play hes getting pressure
Are you serious you must not be watching the game tonight Pat Willis isnt playing and Aldon Smith is eating Big Ben alive...Every play hes getting pressure
Sure Aldon Smith is good, but Justin Smith is also a big name DT for the 49ers playing well today. Aldon Smith, Justin Smith, and Pat Willis are 3 major playmakers for the 49ers defense. Von Miller is the only playmaker for Denver. I think that is his point. Miller has no help while Smith does.
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Aldon Smith benefits by being on the same defense as Pat Willis where's Von Miller IS Denver's Pat Willis.
Are you serious you must not be watching the game tonight Pat Willis isnt playing and Aldon Smith is eating Big Ben alive...Every play hes getting pressure
Are you serious you must not be watching the game tonight Pat Willis isnt playing and Aldon Smith is eating Big Ben alive...Every play hes getting pressure
I didn't say he wasn't good. I simply said he benefits from playing alongside an elite LB, which is the truth.
I'm not watching the game, you are correct.
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Are you serious you must not be watching the game tonight Pat Willis isnt playing and Aldon Smith is eating Big Ben alive...Every play hes getting pressure
Sure Aldon Smith is good, but Justin Smith is also a big name DT for the 49ers playing well today. Aldon Smith, Justin Smith, and Pat Willis are 3 major playmakers for the 49ers defense. Von Miller is the only playmaker for Denver. I think that is his point. Miller has no help while Smith does.
Sure Aldon Smith is good, but Justin Smith is also a big name DT for the 49ers playing well today. Aldon Smith, Justin Smith, and Pat Willis are 3 major playmakers for the 49ers defense. Von Miller is the only playmaker for Denver. I think that is his point. Miller has no help while Smith does.
I would argue that Bunkley is having a great year as well as DJ Williams and you cant count out Dumervill on the other side rushing the passer as well..
Von Miller
Total plays 655
Pass Plays 379
Sacks 10.5
Sacks/pp 2.8%
Aldon Smith
Total Plays 339
Pass Plays 259
Sacks 12.5
Sacks/pp 3.7%
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Not to mention Sheard adds 5 forced fumbles which leads the league to those 7.5 sacks. He should finish 2nd in defensive rookie of the year voting behind Von Miller, also a freak.
Dont forget Aldon Smith who also has 10.5 sacks with Miller but who has played only half the amount of snaps that Von Miller has...
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Sheard is looking to be a first round talent, but Taylor is leaving something to be desired.
His name rarely gets called, he's constantly back around the line of scrimmage (with one guy on him), he rarely gets to the QB, and given our run defense this year, he hasn't stopped jack.
He's looking like Big Baby the 2nd.
He has underachieved as far as I'm concerned with the 1st overall pick from the Browns.
Thank God we have something in Sheard.
Kinda being a disappointment we passed on a multi year all star for this fat slob
Kinda being a disappointment we passed on a multi year all star for this fat slob
Well, the guy you and Ghoolie are creaming your pants over sure isn't going to be an all-star THIS year. 34th in yards, not even in the top 50 in receptions. LOL, Greg Little has more catches, and might even have more yards if Turdmur wasn't afraid to throw the damn ball farther than 30 feet. Tell me who was the better value.
So we got a most excellent fat slob out of the deal, and if Atlanta's pick turns out to be the ammunition we need to make a trade with the Rams to get Blackmon, you two whiners can STFU.
Playmakers, my ass. Jones Drew and Peterson have helped the Jags and Vikings win a grand total of 6 games.
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Sheard is looking to be a first round talent, but Taylor is leaving something to be desired.
His name rarely gets called, he's constantly back around the line of scrimmage (with one guy on him), he rarely gets to the QB, and given our run defense this year, he hasn't stopped jack.
He's looking like Big Baby the 2nd.
He has underachieved as far as I'm concerned with the 1st overall pick from the Browns.
Thank God we have something in Sheard.
Kinda being a disappointment we passed on a multi year all star for this fat slob
Kinda being a disappointment we passed on a multi year all star for this fat slob
Ok we know your drunk again Rich...Taylor and Sheared have been productive. I think you need to double up on your Geritol and Haleys MO!
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Miller is absolutely not the only playmaker in Denver - Elvis Dumervil, as was mentioned before. Dumervil has only 8.5 sacks, because teams focus on him after his league-leading 17 sacks in 2009. Elvis was injured all last year.
It's fun to talk about Smith getting pressure all night, because there's a Squeeler fan who posts on this board twice daily that OL doesn't matter.. however, Big Ben's going nowhere this year because his OL is a gaggle of waiver-wire pickups with a first-round center.
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Thanks for an insightful post. The amount of negativity and lack of football knowledge on these boards is getting frustrating. I remember when there used to be logical discussion in this forum.
Not to mention Sheard adds 5 forced fumbles which leads the league to those 7.5 sacks. He should finish 2nd in defensive rookie of the year voting behind Von Miller, also a freak.
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Are you serious you must not be watching the game tonight Pat Willis isnt playing and Aldon Smith is eating Big Ben alive...Every play hes getting pressure
Sure Aldon Smith is good, but Justin Smith is also a big name DT for the 49ers playing well today. Aldon Smith, Justin Smith, and Pat Willis are 3 major playmakers for the 49ers defense. Von Miller is the only playmaker for Denver. I think that is his point. Miller has no help while Smith does.
Sure Aldon Smith is good, but Justin Smith is also a big name DT for the 49ers playing well today. Aldon Smith, Justin Smith, and Pat Willis are 3 major playmakers for the 49ers defense. Von Miller is the only playmaker for Denver. I think that is his point. Miller has no help while Smith does.
The Broncos have Elvis Dumerville that puts every bit as much pressure on the QBs as Miller does.
...Let's put it this way, we have Sheard, and that is great, but it would also be nice to get a Von Miller or a Dumerville in here as well.
Fair to say?
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Elvis Dumervil, Brodrick Bunkley and D.J. Williams are all very good players.
But Pat Willis is elite. Teams have to gameplan for him alone. It's the same effect Polamalu has for the Steelers. The first step is getting Polamalu blocked, the next step is blocking the rest of the team. While Dumervil, Bunkley and Williams are no doubt great players that could start for any team in the league, they just don't command the same amount of respect.
Smith had a great game last night without Willis there. He's a good player, probably will be a great player. The 1-2 punch of Willis and Smith will probably be the best LB duo for the next few seasons, unless Denver adds another first round draft pick.
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The guy from San Fran that was all over BRs ass last night could even be better than Miller.
That my friend was Aldon Smith Gipper the guy who i was talking about, tearing into Rapitistberger's ass
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Sure Aldon Smith is good, but Justin Smith is also a big name DT for the 49ers playing well today. Aldon Smith, Justin Smith, and Pat Willis are 3 major playmakers for the 49ers defense. Von Miller is the only playmaker for Denver. I think that is his point. Miller has no help while Smith does.
The Broncos have Elvis Dumerville that puts every bit as much pressure on the QBs as Miller does.
...Let's put it this way, we have Sheard, and that is great, but it would also be nice to get a Von Miller or a Dumerville in here as well.
Fair to say?
The Broncos have Elvis Dumerville that puts every bit as much pressure on the QBs as Miller does.
...Let's put it this way, we have Sheard, and that is great, but it would also be nice to get a Von Miller or a Dumerville in here as well.
Fair to say?
Yes. We need a run stopping, pass rushing LB and/or RE to make Sheard even better than he is now..
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