Browns Fans Need To Relax--It Takes Time!
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Just look at the bungals. They have a asshat of an owner. Their franchise QB walked out on the team and have a mediocre coach. Everyone was saying they would be lucky to win two games. They are now on the verge of making the playoffs. Whats Holmgrams excuse?
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for all the Bengal's flaws, which are many....Marvin Lewis (right?)is actually a pretty good, well-respected coach.
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Just look at the bungals. They have a asshat of an owner. Their franchise QB walked out on the team and have a mediocre coach. Everyone was saying they would be lucky to win two games. They are now on the verge of making the playoffs. Whats Holmgrams excuse?
hanson said:
Just look at the bungals. They have a asshat of an owner. Their franchise QB walked out on the team and have a mediocre coach. Everyone was saying they would be lucky to win two games. They are now on the verge of making the playoffs. Whats Holmgrems excuse?
Um, he doesn't have AJ Green and Andy Dalton?
As to having a "stable" atmosphere, I loved it when Mike Brown stabilized with Mike Shula for way too long.
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I just want the Browns to come out and attack from BOTH sides of the ball. Is UnShurmer going to adopt that in his game plan?
I am so sick & tired of watching conservative football. These coaching staffs (of every team) break down film constantly, and come up with punts on 4th & 2 inches, roll-out screens behind the weakest link of the O-line (should I continue?).
If I hear Holmrgen, Heckert, & UnShurmer talk about how they loved their draft, they simply have NO EXCUSES not to ATTACK the opposition in 2012.
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47 years with how many coaches? 20+?
thats about 2 years per head coach
i wonder how many QBs have started for the browns in the same amount of time
the article.....which you clearly didnt read.....talks about giving the current organization time to get its people in order. you guys have waited almost 50 years.....whats a few more to help turn things around?
You can really be goddamn dumb sometimes. The Browns (and Cleveland) won their last title in 1964, when I was 12.
I will turn 60 in January.
Now, given that information do you want to look me in the fucking face and tell me to wait?
The fricking 49ers went from 6-10 last year to a Super Bowl contender this year with a new coach/system.
Why should we not expect the same results?
The Bengals were 4-12 last year and are now fighting for a playoff birth.
Why should we not expect the same?
The Broncos were 4-12 last year and now lead their division.
Why should we not expect the same?
The Detroit Lions were 6-10 last year, now they are 9-5 and expect a playoff birth.
Why should we not expect the same?
The Packers won the Super Bowl last year.
Why should we not expect the same?
You became a Saints fan what? 2-3 years ago? I believe you should now wait until at least the year 2060 for them to even have another shot at a title.
When the year 2060 gets here and you've been waiting do you want some young dumbass to tell you: Just wait, be patient. No. This is what you will probably want to do:
You can really be goddamn dumb sometimes. The Browns (and Cleveland) won their last title in 1964, when I was 12.
I will turn 60 in January.
Now, given that information do you want to look me in the fucking face and tell me to wait?
The fricking 49ers went from 6-10 last year to a Super Bowl contender this year with a new coach/system.
Why should we not expect the same results?
The Bengals were 4-12 last year and are now fighting for a playoff birth.
Why should we not expect the same?
The Broncos were 4-12 last year and now lead their division.
Why should we not expect the same?
The Detroit Lions were 6-10 last year, now they are 9-5 and expect a playoff birth.
Why should we not expect the same?
The Packers won the Super Bowl last year.
Why should we not expect the same?
You became a Saints fan what? 2-3 years ago? I believe you should now wait until at least the year 2060 for them to even have another shot at a title.
When the year 2060 gets here and you've been waiting do you want some young dumbass to tell you: Just wait, be patient. No. This is what you will probably want to do:
No shit Gipper! I'm tired of waiting! We've waited long enough in this city! The 80s are my best memories of the Browns, and they came up short courtesy of John Elway! I'm so done with the excuses!
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Why won't you count interim coaches? If a new guy takes over a team mid season it almost always guarantees a new mentality along with new play calling. That can really hamper a team even more
12 coaches in 47 years is a ton. That's just under 4 years per coach and that's not including interim guys that didn't get to see a full season.
The browns have no stability so they will have no wins...that's how it works
Interim coaches:
Dick Modzelewski, coached last game of 1977 against Seattle, after Forrest Gregg (should have kept Gregg for sure)
Jim Shofner, 1-6 with an aging/declining team after Bud Carson
Terry Robiskie- nice guy, but didn't even wear a hat in the snow games-caused brain freezes & clock mismanagement, 1-4, after replacing Butch Davis
Interim coaches:
Dick Modzelewski, coached last game of 1977 against Seattle, after Forrest Gregg (should have kept Gregg for sure)
Jim Shofner, 1-6 with an aging/declining team after Bud Carson
Terry Robiskie- nice guy, but didn't even wear a hat in the snow games-caused brain freezes & clock mismanagement, 1-4, after replacing Butch Davis
The Saints have had a new coach every 3.3 years through out their history. But, you may not know that you condescending front runner.
Soccer, Futball, Fusball, Futsal, Foosball, Europe ... Mods are all gay. -
Interim coaches:
Dick Modzelewski, coached last game of 1977 against Seattle, after Forrest Gregg (should have kept Gregg for sure)
Jim Shofner, 1-6 with an aging/declining team after Bud Carson
Terry Robiskie- nice guy, but didn't even wear a hat in the snow games-caused brain freezes & clock mismanagement, 1-4, after replacing Butch Davis
The Saints have had a new coach every 3.3 years through out their history. But, you may not know that you condescending front runner.
The Saints have had a new coach every 3.3 years through out their history. But, you may not know that you condescending front runner.
U moron. The saints are historically one of the worst teams in nfl history and a lot of that had to do with instability just like the browns
However...guys like Jim mora, Jim haslett and Sean payton were all pretty solid and all led their teams to the postseason. Coincidentally they all were also allowed to coach up to at least 5 years a piece.
The issues with haslett came when the saints went from a playoff team to 3-13 and the 2nd pick in the draft but that was after we had already seen the max potential of hasletts team
You can't even judge shurmer or mangini because they weren't given enough time
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Interim coaches:
Dick Modzelewski, coached last game of 1977 against Seattle, after Forrest Gregg (should have kept Gregg for sure)
Jim Shofner, 1-6 with an aging/declining team after Bud Carson
Terry Robiskie- nice guy, but didn't even wear a hat in the snow games-caused brain freezes & clock mismanagement, 1-4, after replacing Butch Davis
The Saints have had a new coach every 3.3 years through out their history. But, you may not know that you condescending front runner.
The Saints have had a new coach every 3.3 years through out their history. But, you may not know that you condescending front runner.
Me? A frontrunner?
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The Saints have had a new coach every 3.3 years through out their history. But, you may not know that you condescending front runner.
U moron. The saints are historically one of the worst teams in nfl history and a lot of that had to do with instability just like the browns
However...guys like Jim mora, Jim haslett and Sean payton were all pretty solid and all led their teams to the postseason. Coincidentally they all were also allowed to coach up to at least 5 years a piece.
The issues with haslett came when the saints went from a playoff team to 3-13 and the 2nd pick in the draft but that was after we had already seen the max potential of hasletts team
You can't even judge shurmer or mangini because they weren't given enough time
U moron. The saints are historically one of the worst teams in nfl history and a lot of that had to do with instability just like the browns
However...guys like Jim mora, Jim haslett and Sean payton were all pretty solid and all led their teams to the postseason. Coincidentally they all were also allowed to coach up to at least 5 years a piece.
The issues with haslett came when the saints went from a playoff team to 3-13 and the 2nd pick in the draft but that was after we had already seen the max potential of hasletts team
You can't even judge shurmer or mangini because they weren't given enough time
Well, Shurmur will be given time, whether he deserves it or not. But recall The Walrus's words when he let Mangini go: Quote: "5-11 isn't good enough". No shit Sherlock? Was that just pablum or do you really believe that.
OK, we have to deal with all the brain farts Shurmur has given us this year, but next year he better replace that bag of feces between his ears with an actual brain.
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U moron. The saints are historically one of the worst teams in nfl history and a lot of that had to do with instability just like the browns
However...guys like Jim mora, Jim haslett and Sean payton were all pretty solid and all led their teams to the postseason. Coincidentally they all were also allowed to coach up to at least 5 years a piece.
The issues with haslett came when the saints went from a playoff team to 3-13 and the 2nd pick in the draft but that was after we had already seen the max potential of hasletts team
You can't even judge shurmer or mangini because they weren't given enough time
Well, Shurmur will be given time, whether he deserves it or not. But recall The Walrus's words when he let Mangini go: Quote: "5-11 isn't good enough". No shit Sherlock? Was that just pablum or do you really believe that.
OK, we have to deal with all the brain farts Shurmur has given us this year, but next year he better replace that bag of feces between his ears with an actual brain.
Well, Shurmur will be given time, whether he deserves it or not. But recall The Walrus's words when he let Mangini go: Quote: "5-11 isn't good enough". No shit Sherlock? Was that just pablum or do you really believe that.
OK, we have to deal with all the brain farts Shurmur has given us this year, but next year he better replace that bag of feces between his ears with an actual brain.
Oh gee, can't wait.
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