Luck, Kalil, & Claiborne Are Gone... Is Rgiii Your Pick?
-
If we trade down, we will not get a superstar. Then, we will continue to have the same crappy team. You guys are clueless
You still can if you stay in the top 10. It wouldn't be like last year when they traded out to the mid 20's. The Browns could easily trade back to 6 and still have a shot at Blackmon if he is there when we pick at 4 and the Browns also have a real chance to trade back anywhere in the top 10 and select Richardson.Chickenwang said:
If we trade down, we will not get a superstar. Then, we will continue to have the same crappy team. You guys are clueless
Blackmon. If you think the browns will take a qb with their 4 pick ur an idiot
Depends on what the top guys think. Blackmon is just as much or a sure thing as RGIII would be a QB. No one knows yet and no one knows what our FO is going to think of all the different players. They could just as easily take RGIII and then Wright later in the first.
-
I cant believe people are really saying landry jones?? He looks terrible to me has some of the worst happy feet ive seen in a QB
I cant believe people are really saying landry jones?? He looks terrible to me has some of the worst happy feet ive seen in a QB
I don't like Landry Jones that much either, but I would take him over RG3. I think he'll be a better pro under center. He has all the tools, just needs to fine tune them. When your playing in a shotgun offense its easy to get happy feet while your standing back there waiting for someone to get open. If he's under center taking 3,5 and 7 step drops that will eliminate alot of that. As will more experience.
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
"As luck would have it", fortunately for Andrew, he's not condemned to the fate that is being a first-round QB draft pick for them stains.
Nothing spells career hell than being a contending prospect drafted high by Cleveland.
Yinz wrecked the career of Tim Couch, Brady Queen and fortunately for Luck, he'll land with a franchise (likely Indy) that will maximize his potential.
Head coaches are in the same boat which is probably why the stains look the other way when performing background checks on coaching prospects.
Regards...
... an'at
.
-
amen, cleveland is where football goes to die a slow horrible death.
oh, and PLEASE DEAR LORD PLEASE take RG3!!!! biggest bust since jamarcus russel.
-
draft the best player available if he can fill a hole that needs to be filled or draft down.
we drafted a qb 2 years ago and no matter what anyone says he is serviceable until the rest of the team is built. hell he might even be decent if given some protection, a running game and a top notch receiver who doesn't drop the ball.
if we drafted nothing but defense next year (i know we won't) we might have the best in our division overnite.
We finished 10th in overall defense, while finishing 30th in offensive points, (13.6 pts/gm,)... and our top priority should be... defense?
Compare that with the two worst, bottom of the barrel defenses in the 2011 NFL regular season...
31.) New England Patriots
32.) Green Bay Packers
This isn't 1950, where 75% of the offensive playbook is fullback runs up the middle and a clothesline from the defense. For better or worse, NFL rules are geared toward maximum offense and points, now. Specifically, pass offense.
Rule #1 in Drafting 101: You do not pass on a franchise QB, if you do not have a franchise QB.
Rule #2: Even if you do have a franchise QB, you still consider drafting a franchise QB, (See: New England Patriots, Ryan Mallett.)
We finished 10th in overall defense, while finishing 30th in offensive points, (13.6 pts/gm,)... and our top priority should be... defense?
Compare that with the two worst, bottom of the barrel defenses in the 2011 NFL regular season...
31.) New England Patriots
32.) Green Bay Packers
This isn't 1950, where 75% of the offensive playbook is fullback runs up the middle and a clothesline from the defense. For better or worse, NFL rules are geared toward maximum offense and points, now. Specifically, pass offense.
Rule #1 in Drafting 101: You do not pass on a franchise QB, if you do not have a franchise QB.
Rule #2: Even if you do have a franchise QB, you still consider drafting a franchise QB, (See: New England Patriots, Ryan Mallett.)
i'm not saying we should draft defense, i was just saying it meaning we are only 2 or 3 guys away from being dominate on that side of the ball. hell i know we need ALL kinds of help on offense BUT i don't think there is ever a sure thing franchise QB. why not fill some other major holes and keep our qb package we have now, seeing whether or not a couple of more weapons could make the difference in mccoy's play. if not, draft one in 2013.
it's not like we're going on a super bowl run next year.
-
We finished 10th in overall defense, while finishing 30th in offensive points, (13.6 pts/gm,)... and our top priority should be... defense?
Compare that with the two worst, bottom of the barrel defenses in the 2011 NFL regular season...
31.) New England Patriots
32.) Green Bay Packers
This isn't 1950, where 75% of the offensive playbook is fullback runs up the middle and a clothesline from the defense. For better or worse, NFL rules are geared toward maximum offense and points, now. Specifically, pass offense.
Rule #1 in Drafting 101: You do not pass on a franchise QB, if you do not have a franchise QB.
Rule #2: Even if you do have a franchise QB, you still consider drafting a franchise QB, (See: New England Patriots, Ryan Mallett.)
i'm not saying we should draft defense, i was just saying it meaning we are only 2 or 3 guys away from being dominate on that side of the ball. hell i know we need ALL kinds of help on offense BUT i don't think there is ever a sure thing franchise QB. why not fill some other major holes and keep our qb package we have now, seeing whether or not a couple of more weapons could make the difference in mccoy's play. if not, draft one in 2013.
it's not like we're going on a super bowl run next year.
i'm not saying we should draft defense, i was just saying it meaning we are only 2 or 3 guys away from being dominate on that side of the ball. hell i know we need ALL kinds of help on offense BUT i don't think there is ever a sure thing franchise QB. why not fill some other major holes and keep our qb package we have now, seeing whether or not a couple of more weapons could make the difference in mccoy's play. if not, draft one in 2013.
it's not like we're going on a super bowl run next year.
This was 3rd round draft pick Colt McCoy's tryout year. This was it.
FAIL.
We can't sit around with a #4 draft pick selection, pass on an obscenely talented franchise QB talent like RG3, with fingers crossed, hoping our 3rd round shitty QB miraculously becomes kind of okay, someday... hopefully... maybe... so long as every other offensive player around him is All-Pro.
Your evaluation of Colt McCoy's abilities is clouded by your emotional attachment to him, simply because he's the quarterback of the Browns.
In other words, (like I said before,) if McCoy was the starting QB for Indy, St. Louis, or Minnesota... EVERY one of us would be assuming that each of those teams would be dying to get Luck or RG3.
Get rid of the emotional attachment to a below average Browns player, and you'll see why we need a TRUE franchise QB, instead of this inadequate, failed 3rd round experiment.
-
I cant believe people are really saying landry jones?? He looks terrible to me has some of the worst happy feet ive seen in a QB
I don't like Landry Jones that much either, but I would take him over RG3. I think he'll be a better pro under center. He has all the tools, just needs to fine tune them. When your playing in a shotgun offense its easy to get happy feet while your standing back there waiting for someone to get open. If he's under center taking 3,5 and 7 step drops that will eliminate alot of that. As will more experience.
I don't like Landry Jones that much either, but I would take him over RG3. I think he'll be a better pro under center. He has all the tools, just needs to fine tune them. When your playing in a shotgun offense its easy to get happy feet while your standing back there waiting for someone to get open. If he's under center taking 3,5 and 7 step drops that will eliminate alot of that. As will more experience.
Landry Jones would be smart to stay in school another year. He was bad this yr. You like Landry Jones better why exactly doesn't Oklahoma run the spread too? If so you actually think Jones performed better than RG3? No way, RG3 is accurate, has a cannon, is mobile, dude is smart he had already graduated, he has things to work on and will be put through the paces this off season. If FO determine McCoy isn't the guy be prepared for us to take RG3 in he falls to us at 4.
-
I would trade with Washington. They get the 4 spot for RG3 we ask for their pick at 6, Rex Grossman and their 2nd round or 3rd round pick. With the pick at 6 we take Blackmon or the WR from ND. One of them will definately still be on the board. We also select Kase Keenum, Russell Wilson, or Jones later in the draft. We let all four QBs show us what they have in camp. One of them is bound to impress us. Worst case McCoy is cut, Grossman is our QB for a year and then the young guy takes over. Wallace still stays at #2. With or 2nd pick in the first round I take a DE or LB if there is a great one on the board. Sheard is AMAZING and needs some help so he can really break out next year.
Then with early 2 second round picks we have flexibility and can go RB, DE, CB, whatever the best available players left are.
I really feel this team needs another early to mid second round pick to fill more holes, but cannot afford to NOT get a game changer with their first pick in the 1st round.
I would trade with Washington. They get the 4 spot for RG3 we ask for their pick at 6, Rex Grossman and their 2nd round or 3rd round pick. With the pick at 6 we take Blackmon or the WR from ND. One of them will definately still be on the board. We also select Kase Keenum, Russell Wilson, or Jones later in the draft. We let all four QBs show us what they have in camp. One of them is bound to impress us. Worst case McCoy is cut, Grossman is our QB for a year and then the young guy takes over. Wallace still stays at #2. With or 2nd pick in the first round I take a DE or LB if there is a great one on the board. Sheard is AMAZING and needs some help so he can really break out next year.
Then with early 2 second round picks we have flexibility and can go RB, DE, CB, whatever the best available players left are.
I really feel this team needs another early to mid second round pick to fill more holes, but cannot afford to NOT get a game changer with their first pick in the 1st round.
Rex Grossman?! Are you kidding me?! You can hate on Colt all you want, but Rex freaking Grossman? I can understand trading down but no way in hell we include Grossman in the trade..
-
draft the best player available if he can fill a hole that needs to be filled or draft down.
we drafted a qb 2 years ago and no matter what anyone says he is serviceable until the rest of the team is built. hell he might even be decent if given some protection, a running game and a top notch receiver who doesn't drop the ball.
if we drafted nothing but defense next year (i know we won't) we might have the best in our division overnite.
We finished 10th in overall defense, while finishing 30th in offensive points, (13.6 pts/gm,)... and our top priority should be... defense?
Compare that with the two worst, bottom of the barrel defenses in the 2011 NFL regular season...
31.) New England Patriots
32.) Green Bay Packers
This isn't 1950, where 75% of the offensive playbook is fullback runs up the middle and a clothesline from the defense. For better or worse, NFL rules are geared toward maximum offense and points, now. Specifically, pass offense.
Rule #1 in Drafting 101: You do not pass on a franchise QB, if you do not have a franchise QB.
Rule #2: Even if you do have a franchise QB, you still consider drafting a franchise QB, (See: New England Patriots, Ryan Mallett.)
We finished 10th in overall defense, while finishing 30th in offensive points, (13.6 pts/gm,)... and our top priority should be... defense?
Compare that with the two worst, bottom of the barrel defenses in the 2011 NFL regular season...
31.) New England Patriots
32.) Green Bay Packers
This isn't 1950, where 75% of the offensive playbook is fullback runs up the middle and a clothesline from the defense. For better or worse, NFL rules are geared toward maximum offense and points, now. Specifically, pass offense.
Rule #1 in Drafting 101: You do not pass on a franchise QB, if you do not have a franchise QB.
Rule #2: Even if you do have a franchise QB, you still consider drafting a franchise QB, (See: New England Patriots, Ryan Mallett.)
First of all, the Patriots and Packers do not have the worst defenses in the league. Sure they have allowed the most yards, but that isn't the only statistic you should look at. The Patriots are 15th in points allowed and the Packers are 19 in points allowed (still not great but far from the worst). The most telling statistic is that Green Bay is 2nd in turnovers with a +22 differential and New England is 3rd in takeaways with a +14 differential. The Packers and Patriots give up lots of yards, but make up for it by forcing turnovers.
Now about your comments on franchis QBs. There is no rule about franchise QBs because selecting a QB is such a crapshoot. No one really knows who will be any good. If you are a GM and think a QB is franchise material, then you most likely take him. But you are acting like RG3 and Luck are already HOFers before playing a down in the NFL.
And finally, the Patriots selected Ryan Mallet in the 3rd round - the same round in which Colt McCoy was selected. So you really don't have a good argument there..
-
I don't like Landry Jones that much either, but I would take him over RG3. I think he'll be a better pro under center. He has all the tools, just needs to fine tune them. When your playing in a shotgun offense its easy to get happy feet while your standing back there waiting for someone to get open. If he's under center taking 3,5 and 7 step drops that will eliminate alot of that. As will more experience.
Landry Jones would be smart to stay in school another year. He was bad this yr. You like Landry Jones better why exactly doesn't Oklahoma run the spread too? If so you actually think Jones performed better than RG3? No way, RG3 is accurate, has a cannon, is mobile, dude is smart he had already graduated, he has things to work on and will be put through the paces this off season. If FO determine McCoy isn't the guy be prepared for us to take RG3 in he falls to us at 4.
Landry Jones would be smart to stay in school another year. He was bad this yr. You like Landry Jones better why exactly doesn't Oklahoma run the spread too? If so you actually think Jones performed better than RG3? No way, RG3 is accurate, has a cannon, is mobile, dude is smart he had already graduated, he has things to work on and will be put through the paces this off season. If FO determine McCoy isn't the guy be prepared for us to take RG3 in he falls to us at 4.
You kinda missed my point. Yes they both run a spread, and yes RG3 obviously performed better. But my point is I feel Jones is better suited for the pro game under center. He's a classic big armed, tall, pocket passer. He doesn't fit the spread offense the way its run in college. QB's that excel in college by making plays with there feet rarely succeed in the NFL. Whether they have a big arm or not. They either get hurt, or cant read defenses because they didn't have to in college..ex Mike Vick. Thats just my opinion, I've been wrong before and if we draft him I'll get behind him and hope he breaks the trend. But I'd rather not take that risk with that high of a pick.
-
We finished 10th in overall defense, while finishing 30th in offensive points, (13.6 pts/gm,)... and our top priority should be... defense?
Compare that with the two worst, bottom of the barrel defenses in the 2011 NFL regular season...
31.) New England Patriots
32.) Green Bay Packers
This isn't 1950, where 75% of the offensive playbook is fullback runs up the middle and a clothesline from the defense. For better or worse, NFL rules are geared toward maximum offense and points, now. Specifically, pass offense.
Rule #1 in Drafting 101: You do not pass on a franchise QB, if you do not have a franchise QB.
Rule #2: Even if you do have a franchise QB, you still consider drafting a franchise QB, (See: New England Patriots, Ryan Mallett.)
First of all, the Patriots and Packers do not have the worst defenses in the league. Sure they have allowed the most yards, but that isn't the only statistic you should look at. The Patriots are 15th in points allowed and the Packers are 19 in points allowed (still not great but far from the worst). The most telling statistic is that Green Bay is 2nd in turnovers with a +22 differential and New England is 3rd in takeaways with a +14 differential. The Packers and Patriots give up lots of yards, but make up for it by forcing turnovers.
Now about your comments on franchis QBs. There is no rule about franchise QBs because selecting a QB is such a crapshoot. No one really knows who will be any good. If you are a GM and think a QB is franchise material, then you most likely take him. But you are acting like RG3 and Luck are already HOFers before playing a down in the NFL.
And finally, the Patriots selected Ryan Mallet in the 3rd round - the same round in which Colt McCoy was selected. So you really don't have a good argument there..
First of all, the Patriots and Packers do not have the worst defenses in the league. Sure they have allowed the most yards, but that isn't the only statistic you should look at. The Patriots are 15th in points allowed and the Packers are 19 in points allowed (still not great but far from the worst). The most telling statistic is that Green Bay is 2nd in turnovers with a +22 differential and New England is 3rd in takeaways with a +14 differential. The Packers and Patriots give up lots of yards, but make up for it by forcing turnovers.
Now about your comments on franchis QBs. There is no rule about franchise QBs because selecting a QB is such a crapshoot. No one really knows who will be any good. If you are a GM and think a QB is franchise material, then you most likely take him. But you are acting like RG3 and Luck are already HOFers before playing a down in the NFL.
And finally, the Patriots selected Ryan Mallet in the 3rd round - the same round in which Colt McCoy was selected. So you really don't have a good argument there..
And... finally... Colt McCoy showed himself to be nothing better than a failed, year after year backup QB, named Seneca Wallace.
Open your listening ears... (or "seeing eyes," as it were...)
You do not pass on a franchise QB, when your current QB is playing far below average. Your argument is ridiculous.
You have a mad, lingering man-crush on Colt McCoy, that began a year or two ago. It's time to let him go.
READ THIS AGAIN... Please! (Open your ability to understand, instead of just wanting to win an argument with me, okay?)------
--- If McCoy was the starting QB of the Colts... or the Rams... or the Vikings....... we would ALL be assuming those three teams would be trying to land Luck or RG3.
NOBODY wants McCoy as a starting QB........ He... SUCKS. Time to say bye-bye.
-
I wouldn't say that Colt sucks...I would say that i'm not convinced that he's a starting QB in the NFL and if a #1 draft pick (#4 overall) is available in the draft I think we have to take him. I think Colt is going to have a very long career in the NFL as a backup because he works hard and is a likable kid and will probably win a lot of games as a back up QB.
I don't know if RGIII is the guy for this team/offense/system. I don't think it's worth trading up for Luck because of what we would give up.
-
How about Russel Wilson from Wisconsin? He is atheletic and looked very good in the rose bowl. He had great anticipation and a decent arm. He's small but already plays in a pro style offense with NFL sized linemen. He does benefit from a great run game but he made some really nice throws and runs tonight.
And I'm not saying use a first round pick on him. Just discussing qb options. Id take him over Landry.
-
Landry Jones would be smart to stay in school another year. He was bad this yr. You like Landry Jones better why exactly doesn't Oklahoma run the spread too? If so you actually think Jones performed better than RG3? No way, RG3 is accurate, has a cannon, is mobile, dude is smart he had already graduated, he has things to work on and will be put through the paces this off season. If FO determine McCoy isn't the guy be prepared for us to take RG3 in he falls to us at 4.
You kinda missed my point. Yes they both run a spread, and yes RG3 obviously performed better. But my point is I feel Jones is better suited for the pro game under center. He's a classic big armed, tall, pocket passer. He doesn't fit the spread offense the way its run in college. QB's that excel in college by making plays with there feet rarely succeed in the NFL. Whether they have a big arm or not. They either get hurt, or cant read defenses because they didn't have to in college..ex Mike Vick. Thats just my opinion, I've been wrong before and if we draft him I'll get behind him and hope he breaks the trend. But I'd rather not take that risk with that high of a pick.
You kinda missed my point. Yes they both run a spread, and yes RG3 obviously performed better. But my point is I feel Jones is better suited for the pro game under center. He's a classic big armed, tall, pocket passer. He doesn't fit the spread offense the way its run in college. QB's that excel in college by making plays with there feet rarely succeed in the NFL. Whether they have a big arm or not. They either get hurt, or cant read defenses because they didn't have to in college..ex Mike Vick. Thats just my opinion, I've been wrong before and if we draft him I'll get behind him and hope he breaks the trend. But I'd rather not take that risk with that high of a pick.
Only difference is if you watch the way Griffin plays you see he never really wants to tuck the ball and run, he is a pocket passer before he is a scrambler..He rarely ever takes off unless he absoultely has to,as far as big arm he may have the biggest arm out of any QB in this draft,from watching tape i would say he has the quickest release out of all the other QBs even Luck....I do think he will be a good NFL QB and if the Browns take him i will be behind him just like i still am with McCoy, i can understand the thoughts he might bust but i would say he has just as good a chance of being an All Pro QB as Luck....
This is coming from someone who isnt high on drafting QBs and starting over but i feel that after the combine that this more than likely could be a mute point because Griffin wont be there with the 4th pick
-
i'm not saying we should draft defense, i was just saying it meaning we are only 2 or 3 guys away from being dominate on that side of the ball. hell i know we need ALL kinds of help on offense BUT i don't think there is ever a sure thing franchise QB. why not fill some other major holes and keep our qb package we have now, seeing whether or not a couple of more weapons could make the difference in mccoy's play. if not, draft one in 2013.
it's not like we're going on a super bowl run next year.
This was 3rd round draft pick Colt McCoy's tryout year. This was it.
FAIL.
We can't sit around with a #4 draft pick selection, pass on an obscenely talented franchise QB talent like RG3, with fingers crossed, hoping our 3rd round shitty QB miraculously becomes kind of okay, someday... hopefully... maybe... so long as every other offensive player around him is All-Pro.
Your evaluation of Colt McCoy's abilities is clouded by your emotional attachment to him, simply because he's the quarterback of the Browns.
In other words, (like I said before,) if McCoy was the starting QB for Indy, St. Louis, or Minnesota... EVERY one of us would be assuming that each of those teams would be dying to get Luck or RG3.
Get rid of the emotional attachment to a below average Browns player, and you'll see why we need a TRUE franchise QB, instead of this inadequate, failed 3rd round experiment.
This
Your evaluation of Colt McCoy's abilities is clouded by your emotional attachment to him, simply because he's the quarterback of the Browns.
In other words, (like I said before,) if McCoy was the starting QB for Indy, St. Louis, or Minnesota... EVERY one of us would be assuming that each of those teams would be dying to get Luck or RG3.
Get rid of the emotional attachment to a below average Browns player, and you'll see why we need a TRUE franchise QB, instead of this inadequate, failed 3rd round experiment.
i've got no emotional attachment to mccoy. i think he's undersized with a weak arm. but i wouldn't pick ANOTHER qb next year when we need LBs RT RB CB DE etc. etc. etc.
believe me, they'll be another list of qbs in 2013 that everybody will be slobering over. putting a qb picked at number 4 w/o addressing other issues will only get the kid killed while we'll have wasted the chance to impact the team with another pick. besides mccoy is not the reason we sucked this year. yeah he's part of the reason but how about a receiver that doesn't drop a ball thrown into his hands or a running back that can break through the line and outrun everyone for 65 yards.
i don't think anyone arguing this point either way is wrong. heckert has done a good job in the draft the last couple of years and this will be one of hundreds of posts with the same topic til next april.
let's just hope we don't do another courtney brown.
-
mikeyP72 said:
JUSTIN BLACKMON BREAKS A 67-yard TD.
Hmm...
-
This
Your evaluation of Colt McCoy's abilities is clouded by your emotional attachment to him, simply because he's the quarterback of the Browns.
In other words, (like I said before,) if McCoy was the starting QB for Indy, St. Louis, or Minnesota... EVERY one of us would be assuming that each of those teams would be dying to get Luck or RG3.
Get rid of the emotional attachment to a below average Browns player, and you'll see why we need a TRUE franchise QB, instead of this inadequate, failed 3rd round experiment.
i've got no emotional attachment to mccoy. i think he's undersized with a weak arm. but i wouldn't pick ANOTHER qb next year when we need LBs RT RB CB DE etc. etc. etc.
believe me, they'll be another list of qbs in 2013 that everybody will be slobering over. putting a qb picked at number 4 w/o addressing other issues will only get the kid killed while we'll have wasted the chance to impact the team with another pick. besides mccoy is not the reason we sucked this year. yeah he's part of the reason but how about a receiver that doesn't drop a ball thrown into his hands or a running back that can break through the line and outrun everyone for 65 yards.
i don't think anyone arguing this point either way is wrong. heckert has done a good job in the draft the last couple of years and this will be one of hundreds of posts with the same topic til next april.
let's just hope we don't do another courtney brown.
believe me, they'll be another list of qbs in 2013 that everybody will be slobering over. b]
Well lets take a look whos out there you think Barkley??
Tyler Wilson? Tyler Bray?
I would not select anyone of these guys over Griffin.
Give me one Prospect you like better
-
Landry Jones would be smart to stay in school another year. He was bad this yr. You like Landry Jones better why exactly doesn't Oklahoma run the spread too? If so you actually think Jones performed better than RG3? No way, RG3 is accurate, has a cannon, is mobile, dude is smart he had already graduated, he has things to work on and will be put through the paces this off season. If FO determine McCoy isn't the guy be prepared for us to take RG3 in he falls to us at 4.
You kinda missed my point. Yes they both run a spread, and yes RG3 obviously performed better. But my point is I feel Jones is better suited for the pro game under center. He's a classic big armed, tall, pocket passer. He doesn't fit the spread offense the way its run in college. QB's that excel in college by making plays with there feet rarely succeed in the NFL. Whether they have a big arm or not. They either get hurt, or cant read defenses because they didn't have to in college..ex Mike Vick. Thats just my opinion, I've been wrong before and if we draft him I'll get behind him and hope he breaks the trend. But I'd rather not take that risk with that high of a pick.
You kinda missed my point. Yes they both run a spread, and yes RG3 obviously performed better. But my point is I feel Jones is better suited for the pro game under center. He's a classic big armed, tall, pocket passer. He doesn't fit the spread offense the way its run in college. QB's that excel in college by making plays with there feet rarely succeed in the NFL. Whether they have a big arm or not. They either get hurt, or cant read defenses because they didn't have to in college..ex Mike Vick. Thats just my opinion, I've been wrong before and if we draft him I'll get behind him and hope he breaks the trend. But I'd rather not take that risk with that high of a pick.
Jones may look the part but he doesn't have the correct mentality to be a successful QB. Every OU fan has wanted Jones benched in favor of the Bell-dozer (he's basically Tebow except he really can't throw for shit. He makes Tebow look like Dan Marino) Jones looks good against weak opponents but once you put him out there against an even mediocre opponent he gets those happy feet and throws pick after backbreaking pick. If Jones has an ounce of intelligence he'll stay at OU for another year and pray to God that all he plays are cupcakes next year (which he won't). Bradford is the only decent QB to come out of OU in the Bob Stoops era and as far as I'm concerned Jones has no shot whatsoever at changing that. If he does come out this year the highest pick I'd be willing to spend on him is a third rounder at best. I've seen at least 90% of the game he's played at OU and while I'm no talent scout by any stretch, he doesn't have that killer instinct, moxie, whatever you want to call it to be a big time NFL starting QB. If I'm taking a QB high in the draft he better be one clutch s.o.b and I've never, ever seen or gotten that vibe from Jones.
-
Well lets take a look whos out there you think Barkley??
Tyler Wilson? Tyler Bray?
I would not select anyone of these guys over Griffin.
Give me one Prospect you like better
hell, i don't know. right now i don't care. all i know is we need like 12 picks to swap out some of these guys who can't play and people want to use the best pick on a position that we have someone who can do the job. not spectacularly BUT when you need so many other things why not wait another year? the dude (mccoy) played pretty good last year and if not for a new system and a doofus HC no right side OL help no running game receivers that drop the ball............who knows what he could have done.
back to your point: no i wouldn't pick any of those guys over griffin either. BUT i guarantee you this time next year they'll be some guy everyone is touting to be the second coming of tebow as well. wait and see.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login