You Are Delusional If You Think The Browns Get Luck.
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I understand that he is a LT(Kalil) but why not put a guy like that on the opposite side, we would have the best OL in football. Having Thomas with Kalil being his bookend makes for an excellent line... then you have a great center in Mack. Steinbach comes back and thats 4 out of five probowlers. I'm sure you could plug in anyone at RG and have a really successful line!
Think of the lanes Hillis would have to run through, he could pull his truck through one of those gaps! Think of the time it would allow the QB in the Pocket! You've seen the games when the QB has 2 minutes in the pocket to find a wide open wide receiver and always wondered why we don't get that time? Well with Thomas, Mack and Kalil we would have. And since I DO watch football I'd know that more time in the pocket means more time for the defensive coverage to break down. We only need a few more seconds. Plus it would help to stunt all the massive blitzes that Balt and Pitt throw at us twice a year! Just sayin'!
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I understand that he is a LT(Kalil) but why not put a guy like that on the opposite side, we would have the best OL in football. Having Thomas with Kalil being his bookend makes for an excellent line... then you have a great center in Mack. Steinbach comes back and thats 4 out of five probowlers. I'm sure you could plug in anyone at RG and have a really successful line!
Think of the lanes Hillis would have to run through, he could pull his truck through one of those gaps! Think of the time it would allow the QB in the Pocket! You've seen the games when the QB has 2 minutes in the pocket to find a wide open wide receiver and always wondered why we don't get that time? Well with Thomas, Mack and Kalil we would have. And since I DO watch football I'd know that more time in the pocket means more time for the defensive coverage to break down. We only need a few more seconds. Plus it would help to stunt all the massive blitzes that Balt and Pitt throw at us twice a year! Just sayin'!
I understand that he is a LT(Kalil) but why not put a guy like that on the opposite side, we would have the best OL in football. Having Thomas with Kalil being his bookend makes for an excellent line... then you have a great center in Mack. Steinbach comes back and thats 4 out of five probowlers. I'm sure you could plug in anyone at RG and have a really successful line!
Think of the lanes Hillis would have to run through, he could pull his truck through one of those gaps! Think of the time it would allow the QB in the Pocket! You've seen the games when the QB has 2 minutes in the pocket to find a wide open wide receiver and always wondered why we don't get that time? Well with Thomas, Mack and Kalil we would have. And since I DO watch football I'd know that more time in the pocket means more time for the defensive coverage to break down. We only need a few more seconds. Plus it would help to stunt all the massive blitzes that Balt and Pitt throw at us twice a year! Just sayin'!
If an NFL front office drafts a Right Tackle with a top 5 pick in an NFL draft, they should be strung up by the fleshy sack between their legs, where testicles would normally be found.
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I understand that he is a LT(Kalil) but why not put a guy like that on the opposite side, we would have the best OL in football. Having Thomas with Kalil being his bookend makes for an excellent line... then you have a great center in Mack. Steinbach comes back and thats 4 out of five probowlers. I'm sure you could plug in anyone at RG and have a really successful line!
Think of the lanes Hillis would have to run through, he could pull his truck through one of those gaps! Think of the time it would allow the QB in the Pocket! You've seen the games when the QB has 2 minutes in the pocket to find a wide open wide receiver and always wondered why we don't get that time? Well with Thomas, Mack and Kalil we would have. And since I DO watch football I'd know that more time in the pocket means more time for the defensive coverage to break down. We only need a few more seconds. Plus it would help to stunt all the massive blitzes that Balt and Pitt throw at us twice a year! Just sayin'!
If an NFL front office drafts a Right Tackle with a top 5 pick in an NFL draft, they should be strung up by the fleshy sack between their legs, where testicles would normally be found.
If an NFL front office drafts a Right Tackle with a top 5 pick in an NFL draft, they should be strung up by the fleshy sack between their legs, where testicles would normally be found.
...And I think that if you're OL is holding you back, getting your QB killed and committing costly penalties because of a shoddy patched together Rightside, year after year, then you should be strung up by what you referred to.
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Don't think of it as signing at RT with a top 5 pick. Think of it as using a top 5 pick to solidify yourself as having the number 1 offensive line in the NFL period. Think of it as insurance in case Joe T goes down(God forbid and knock on wood)... or think of it as a contingency plan for when Joe Thomas finally retires. Kalil can pick up and give us five years AFTER Joe Thomas leaves us for retirement and we'll still have a beast for a LT. Think of it in those perspectives and it gives those ball-less bastards credence.
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If an NFL front office drafts a Right Tackle with a top 5 pick in an NFL draft, they should be strung up by the fleshy sack between their legs, where testicles would normally be found.
...And I think that if you're OL is holding you back, getting your QB killed and committing costly penalties because of a shoddy patched together Rightside, year after year, then you should be strung up by what you referred to.
...And I think that if you're OL is holding you back, getting your QB killed and committing costly penalties because of a shoddy patched together Rightside, year after year, then you should be strung up by what you referred to.
Let me rephrase...
Only a schmuck thinks you cure your Right Tackle ills with a Top 5 pick.
The Right Tackle covers the 2nd best Defensive End on your opponent's team. That's their SECOND best Defensive End. That's why you don't waste a pick that could get you a #1 QB, or a #1 WR, or a #1 RB, or a #1 CB, or a #1 DE, or a #1 SS, or a #1 OT... etc... etc... on a #2 Offensive Tackle.
No, no, no, on drafting a #2 OT with your Top 5 pick. That's found later. You can find them in free agency, too.
P.S.
At this time, I should probably let you know we shouldn't be looking to draft a #2 wide receiver with our Top 5 pick, either... or a #2 CB... or a #2 RB... or a #2 QB... or a #2 DE... or a...
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Don't think of it as signing at RT with a top 5 pick. Think of it as using a top 5 pick to solidify yourself as having the number 1 offensive line in the NFL period. Think of it as insurance in case Joe T goes down(God forbid and knock on wood)... or think of it as a contingency plan for when Joe Thomas finally retires. Kalil can pick up and give us five years AFTER Joe Thomas leaves us for retirement and we'll still have a beast for a LT. Think of it in those perspectives and it gives those ball-less bastards credence.
Don't think of it as signing at RT with a top 5 pick. Think of it as using a top 5 pick to solidify yourself as having the number 1 offensive line in the NFL period. Think of it as insurance in case Joe T goes down(God forbid and knock on wood)... or think of it as a contingency plan for when Joe Thomas finally retires. Kalil can pick up and give us five years AFTER Joe Thomas leaves us for retirement and we'll still have a beast for a LT. Think of it in those perspectives and it gives those ball-less bastards credence.
Yeah, Lauvao and Pinkston positively blew me away with their stellar play this year. Don't expect an end of career Steinbach to be a huge upgrade next year either.
Think of it, assuming you're looking for a RT as drafting a guy AT LEAST 20 picks higher than he should be taken.
RTs DON'T GET TAKEN IN THE FIRST 5 PICKS. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION.
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If Blackman isn't the pick if he is available for the Browns I will be pissed. I am 100% sold on the guy. It's like Jones last year a no brainer. Blackman and Kuechly will give this team 3-4 extra wins.
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cause its that easy....right?
lmao....
sigh...every offseason is the same for bronws fans...."so and so is beast and will put us into the playoffs!" julio jones was so awesome this year his team won less games and squeaked into the playoffs....
lets see how the shrine and senior bowl look before we start zeroing in on one player that looks good against guys that will be bagging groceries next month.
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I all but guarantee as I said before Holmgren will place a phone call to the Colts and ask about what it's gonna take to get the first pick. So yes, IMO there is going to be that extremely slight chance he trades the draft for Luck. He had the same conversation with the rams about Bradford. Now realistically I highly doubt that's gonna happen, but you never know. Maybe the new guys in the Colts front office don't like Luck and are willing to make a deal for picks even if it's not a crazy package of 1st rounders. There's been crazier things to happen in the NFL before.
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cause its that easy....right?
lmao....
sigh...every offseason is the same for bronws fans...."so and so is beast and will put us into the playoffs!" julio jones was so awesome this year his team won less games and squeaked into the playoffs....
lets see how the shrine and senior bowl look before we start zeroing in on one player that looks good against guys that will be bagging groceries next month.
cause its that easy....right?
lmao....
sigh...every offseason is the same for bronws fans...."so and so is beast and will put us into the playoffs!" julio jones was so awesome this year his team won less games and squeaked into the playoffs....
lets see how the shrine and senior bowl look before we start zeroing in on one player that looks good against guys that will be bagging groceries next month.
Think about it, it's truer this year and next more than ever. This year the Browns would of really benefited from a top wide out. We lost 6 GAMES, WTF 6 GAMES by a TD or less. 6 Games. One less drop a game, one more big play could of won at least 3 of those (not taking into account the play calling, which will be fixed with Childress). Blackmon for sure.
Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12 -
I would be very happy with RG3, or Blackmon or both. Blackmon looked impressive last night and has speed on top of that. Add him to the mix with Cribbs and Little and get Watson and Moore into our game plan and we could have a decent offense.
We do need to shore up our OL though. Colt could actually work out with a better line. But I still have my doubts about a barely over 6' QB who can't see over his linemen, and has multiple passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage. Colt and Seneca are basically the same player IMO. They both give and take in certain areas, but if you looked at them in Madden, they would have the same player rating. If we could land RG3 and Blackmon in the same draft, that would be stellar, highly unlikely but that would be great.
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cause its that easy....right?
lmao....
sigh...every offseason is the same for bronws fans...."so and so is beast and will put us into the playoffs!" julio jones was so awesome this year his team won less games and squeaked into the playoffs....
lets see how the shrine and senior bowl look before we start zeroing in on one player that looks good against guys that will be bagging groceries next month.
Think about it, it's truer this year and next more than ever. This year the Browns would of really benefited from a top wide out. We lost 6 GAMES, WTF 6 GAMES by a TD or less. 6 Games. One less drop a game, one more big play could of won at least 3 of those (not taking into account the play calling, which will be fixed with Childress). Blackmon for sure.
Think about it, it's truer this year and next more than ever. This year the Browns would of really benefited from a top wide out. We lost 6 GAMES, WTF 6 GAMES by a TD or less. 6 Games. One less drop a game, one more big play could of won at least 3 of those (not taking into account the play calling, which will be fixed with Childress). Blackmon for sure.
and in 2010, we lost 7 games by a TD or less. was that the problem then as well?
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Think about it, it's truer this year and next more than ever. This year the Browns would of really benefited from a top wide out. We lost 6 GAMES, WTF 6 GAMES by a TD or less. 6 Games. One less drop a game, one more big play could of won at least 3 of those (not taking into account the play calling, which will be fixed with Childress). Blackmon for sure.
and in 2010, we lost 7 games by a TD or less. was that the problem then as well?
and in 2010, we lost 7 games by a TD or less. was that the problem then as well?
Yes. We didn't pick a play maker. I liked our draft very much. But I think if we concentrated on a #1 receiver, possibly sign a vet WR to mentor Blackmon and Little and draft a run stopper. Yes I think that could be the difference between 4 and 6-7 wins.
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Isnt the Black Mamba still a Freshman???
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Luck's main weakness is his lack of vertical prowness. Even in tonights game, alot of his success came with short compact throws and timing routes showing his great touch. To some teams, that may be a turn off for such a high slot that want hard, long throwers. RGIII has him beat by alot on that area.
Of course the Rams are going with new schemes and so may the Colts. Luck is a baby bonus. If he magically falls or the Colts want RGIII and we dicker to something agreeable, so be it. If he doesn't, no harm or foul. The Browns system is so QB heavy, we are going to have to take them quite often. We were probably one of the least talented teams in terms of QB roster in the NFL just as much as WR. I suspect both will be serviced this draft in the first 3 rounds.
Will we get Luck? It's possible.
Will he fall to us at #4? Highly unlikely.
Will the Colts act like they are set on Luck? Absolutely... If they really want him, it costs them nothing. If they really don't, it only increases the trade value of their pick. It's the oldest draft gambit known to man. The key to watch will be how intense the pre-draft contract negotiations become... and we're a long way from then.
Can the Colts afford Luck and Manning? That gets interesting. IIRC Peyton restructured a couple years ago to allow more talent to be signed. He sure as hell would have no interested in restructuring again to enable them to sign his replacement.
Luck's main weakness is his lack of vertical prowness. Even in tonights game, a lot of his success came with short compact throws and timing routes showing his great touch.
Yeah.. it's not like we're running the West Coast Offense or anything...
Seriously, in the Tostitos he fit some throws into some pretty tight windows. And when he had WR's open deep he laid the ball right in there. He missed a grand total of 4 passes. I could live with that sort of performance.
Of course the Rams are going with new schemes and so may the Colts.
Yup... and as pointed out there are Senior Bowls... and can't forget the Combine... and individual work outs.
There's a whole lot of chest thumping and gnashing of teeth 'round here based upon an incomplete data set...
In other words it's a Forum...
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At no point is a "vet WR" ever a good investment. Never. If Blackmon's available, no hesitation; if he's not available, get Wright at the bottom of the first.
Of course we're going to get OL help - one of those first 3 picks will be an OT/OG for the right side. If Steinbach is healthy (big if) then we have a great LG; if not, a gigantic contract comes off the books and our big FA signing should be a stud LG to replace him.
Oh, and to those of you who think we should get nothing but skill positions: That's the Dallas Cowboy strategy.. and they're not in the playoffs for two years in a row with All-Pros at QB, both starting WR's, and an all-Pro performance from their RB committee.
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