How's This From Fox Sports Mock
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If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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If Blackmon and Luck are gone at 4 why wouldn't the Browns trade with Miami or Washington? I would in a second. We have too many holes to fill, and we wouldn't be moving to far back where we couldn't still get a great difference maker with our first pick. We would likely end up with 2 first round picks, two second round picks, and an extra first or second next year.
I am biased though because based on what I saw of RG3 this year, I am envisioning a Vick type of player on the field. Somebody who gets injured when trying to run, isgood but not great at passing. I could be wrong, but I don't think he is the next Cam Newton.
There are so many other QB's this year that I like who we can get later in the draft and still fill the team with stars at WR, RB (if needed), DE, and LB. And we still a QB to compete with McCoy. If we are lucky, Luck falls as RG3 rises and that leaves him sitting there at four. I know I'm dreaming.....
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No you wouldn't.
yeah, you're right.
i might puke now though seeing as the season isn't even over with yet and we've got 20 mock draft threads.
ugh.
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horrible picks...
I'm pretty sure we will get Coples and Martin...we will trade down for Coples and then back in for Martin...then pick up a WR and then a CB. Though I wouldn't mind trading down to Philly for their 15th pick both their 2nd round picks and next years first...i'm pretty sure they would do that to get RG3...imagine the haul we would have this year 2 mid first rounders and 3 2nd rounders this year and 2 first rounders next year...also possibly the bengals would trade us both their mid 1sts plus a 2nd round to get Kalil or blackmon if he drops to us...We would then have 3 firsts this year and 2 2nd rounders. The pick is way to valuable to waste on one player.
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We need a WR with one of our 1st round picks. Blackmon, Floyd, or Wright are the only ones I think are worth first round picks, Floyd and Wright not till the second half of the first round.
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yeah, you're right.
i might puke now though seeing as the season isn't even over with yet and we've got 20 mock draft threads.
ugh.
well, technically the season IS over for the browns........typical browns football, play 16 games and talk about how good u'll be next year.
PLEASE OH PLEASE if there is a God let the stains take RG3 with the 4th pick! it's would be my valentine's, easter, birthay, and x-mas present all rolled into one if they wasted the 4th pick of the draft on him. most overrated QB since jamarcus russel and i can't think of a better place for this mistake of a NFL QB to land than the mistake by the lake.
with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben. -
yeah, you're right.
i might puke now though seeing as the season isn't even over with yet and we've got 20 mock draft threads.
ugh.
well, technically the season IS over for the browns........typical browns football, play 16 games and talk about how good u'll be next year.
PLEASE OH PLEASE if there is a God let the stains take RG3 with the 4th pick! it's would be my valentine's, easter, birthay, and x-mas present all rolled into one if they wasted the 4th pick of the draft on him. most overrated QB since jamarcus russel and i can't think of a better place for this mistake of a NFL QB to land than the mistake by the lake.
well, technically the season IS over for the browns........typical browns football, play 16 games and talk about how good u'll be next year.
PLEASE OH PLEASE if there is a God let the stains take RG3 with the 4th pick! it's would be my valentine's, easter, birthay, and x-mas present all rolled into one if they wasted the 4th pick of the draft on him. most overrated QB since jamarcus russel and i can't think of a better place for this mistake of a NFL QB to land than the mistake by the lake.
Jamarcus Russell was a quiter...I don't see that in RG3.
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well, technically the season IS over for the browns........typical browns football, play 16 games and talk about how good u'll be next year.
PLEASE OH PLEASE if there is a God let the stains take RG3 with the 4th pick! it's would be my valentine's, easter, birthay, and x-mas present all rolled into one if they wasted the 4th pick of the draft on him. most overrated QB since jamarcus russel and i can't think of a better place for this mistake of a NFL QB to land than the mistake by the lake.
Jamarcus Russell was a quiter...I don't see that in RG3.
Jamarcus Russell was a quiter...I don't see that in RG3.
nobody saw it from jamarcus either. what u think the scouting report read something like..........."kid's a HUGE athlete, big and tall at about 6'7" 265lbs, runs a 4.6, can throw LITTERALLY from endzone to endzone, and has had a stellar college career.......oh, and he's a quitter."?
nope.
and jamarcus didn't start quitting until he started going through the rigors of the NFL. it wasnt' until he hit the pro's that he was exposed......same with RG3.
i'm gonna say it right now so it's on record. what should the browns do? get peyton (if healthy, and he should be) for the next 5yrs.....earn instant legitimacy and contender status.......start BUILDING A TRADITION OF WINNING AND CONTENDING........which would make the browns MUCH more attractive to future FA's.....draft another QB and let him spend 3-4yrs learning behind one of the greatest of all times.........franchise is now set for at least a 10yr span.
what the browns WILL (most likely) do.............draft RG3........realize just how overrated he was over the course of the next 2-3yrs of 6-10 records or worse.......and be right in the same position you are now.....top 5 draft pick wondering who you could pick that can improve your team to at least mediocre.
somebody save this post and be ready to post it in a couple years when everyone is asking why the browns still suck.......it'll be like reading an original scroll from Nostradamus.
with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben. -
Jamarcus Russell was a quiter...I don't see that in RG3.
nobody saw it from jamarcus either. what u think the scouting report read something like..........."kid's a HUGE athlete, big and tall at about 6'7" 265lbs, runs a 4.6, can throw LITTERALLY from endzone to endzone, and has had a stellar college career.......oh, and he's a quitter."?
nope.
and jamarcus didn't start quitting until he started going through the rigors of the NFL. it wasnt' until he hit the pro's that he was exposed......same with RG3.
i'm gonna say it right now so it's on record. what should the browns do? get peyton (if healthy, and he should be) for the next 5yrs.....earn instant legitimacy and contender status.......start BUILDING A TRADITION OF WINNING AND CONTENDING........which would make the browns MUCH more attractive to future FA's.....draft another QB and let him spend 3-4yrs learning behind one of the greatest of all times.........franchise is now set for at least a 10yr span.
what the browns WILL (most likely) do.............draft RG3........realize just how overrated he was over the course of the next 2-3yrs of 6-10 records or worse.......and be right in the same position you are now.....top 5 draft pick wondering who you could pick that can improve your team to at least mediocre.
somebody save this post and be ready to post it in a couple years when everyone is asking why the browns still suck.......it'll be like reading an original scroll from Nostradamus.
what the browns WILL (most likely) do.............draft RG3........realize just how overrated he was over the course of the next 2-3yrs of 6-10 records or worse.......and be right in the same position you are now.....top 5 draft pick wondering who you could pick that can improve your team to at least mediocre.
Way to be positive.
Trying to get Peyton, at his age, with the doubts on his health, with his high price tag, is a "Redskins" move. "Win now at all costs! Mortgage the future while we're at it."
This kind of sad-sack pessimism (among other things) is why the Browns organization will never stabilize.
Draft RGIII if available, draft the best WR they can with their next pick, and just focus on the offense for the rest of the picks.
Though Seneca was not great statistically (and had some of the same issues behind the line that Colt did), there were some games where at long last, a substantial drive turned into touchdowns. I'd rather see if RGIII can do the same from a younger vantage point. Peyton is an NFL legend, but the Browns buying up vets for the sake of now, instead of the future is a horribly, sterotypically "Cleveland" thing to do. It's time for some change hereabouts. Besides, I see a "Peyton on some other team" situation looking a lot like Favre in Minnesota. Let's avoid that.
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yeah, you're right.
i might puke now though seeing as the season isn't even over with yet and we've got 20 mock draft threads.
ugh.
well, technically the season IS over for the browns........typical browns football, play 16 games and talk about how good u'll be next year.
PLEASE OH PLEASE if there is a God let the stains take RG3 with the 4th pick! it's would be my valentine's, easter, birthay, and x-mas present all rolled into one if they wasted the 4th pick of the draft on him. most overrated QB since jamarcus russel and i can't think of a better place for this mistake of a NFL QB to land than the mistake by the lake.
well, technically the season IS over for the browns........typical browns football, play 16 games and talk about how good u'll be next year.
PLEASE OH PLEASE if there is a God let the stains take RG3 with the 4th pick! it's would be my valentine's, easter, birthay, and x-mas present all rolled into one if they wasted the 4th pick of the draft on him. most overrated QB since jamarcus russel and i can't think of a better place for this mistake of a NFL QB to land than the mistake by the lake.
Well, that is YOUR evaluation of RGIII. Why in hell should anyone put any stock in your opinion on the quality of a draft pick considering that people who do this for a living rate him very highly. Pray tell, why is your opinion more worthy than yours? Answer: its not. It is just your ignorance speaking.
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well, technically the season IS over for the browns........typical browns football, play 16 games and talk about how good u'll be next year.
PLEASE OH PLEASE if there is a God let the stains take RG3 with the 4th pick! it's would be my valentine's, easter, birthay, and x-mas present all rolled into one if they wasted the 4th pick of the draft on him. most overrated QB since jamarcus russel and i can't think of a better place for this mistake of a NFL QB to land than the mistake by the lake.
Well, that is YOUR evaluation of RGIII. Why in hell should anyone put any stock in your opinion on the quality of a draft pick considering that people who do this for a living rate him very highly. Pray tell, why is your opinion more worthy than yours? Answer: its not. It is just your ignorance speaking.
Well, that is YOUR evaluation of RGIII. Why in hell should anyone put any stock in your opinion on the quality of a draft pick considering that people who do this for a living rate him very highly. Pray tell, why is your opinion more worthy than yours? Answer: its not. It is just your ignorance speaking.
Thank you...I guess some people just don't like RG3 that much, but give no reason why except because he's in the spread...
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Jamarcus Russell was a quiter...I don't see that in RG3.
nobody saw it from jamarcus either. what u think the scouting report read something like..........."kid's a HUGE athlete, big and tall at about 6'7" 265lbs, runs a 4.6, can throw LITTERALLY from endzone to endzone, and has had a stellar college career.......oh, and he's a quitter."?
nope.
and jamarcus didn't start quitting until he started going through the rigors of the NFL. it wasnt' until he hit the pro's that he was exposed......same with RG3.
i'm gonna say it right now so it's on record. what should the browns do? get peyton (if healthy, and he should be) for the next 5yrs.....earn instant legitimacy and contender status.......start BUILDING A TRADITION OF WINNING AND CONTENDING........which would make the browns MUCH more attractive to future FA's.....draft another QB and let him spend 3-4yrs learning behind one of the greatest of all times.........franchise is now set for at least a 10yr span.
what the browns WILL (most likely) do.............draft RG3........realize just how overrated he was over the course of the next 2-3yrs of 6-10 records or worse.......and be right in the same position you are now.....top 5 draft pick wondering who you could pick that can improve your team to at least mediocre.
somebody save this post and be ready to post it in a couple years when everyone is asking why the browns still suck.......it'll be like reading an original scroll from Nostradamus.
nobody saw it from jamarcus either. what u think the scouting report read something like..........."kid's a HUGE athlete, big and tall at about 6'7" 265lbs, runs a 4.6, can throw LITERALLY from endzone to endzone, and has had a stellar college career.......oh, and he's a quitter."?nope.
and jamarcus didn't start quitting until he started going through the rigors of the NFL. it wasn't' until he hit the pro's that he was exposed......same with RG3.
i'm gonna say it right now so it's on record. what should the browns do? get peyton (if healthy, and he should be) for the next 5yrs.....earn instant legitimacy and contender status.......start BUILDING A TRADITION OF WINNING AND CONTENDING........which would make the browns MUCH more attractive to future FA's.....draft another QB and let him spend 3-4yrs learning behind one of the greatest of all times.........franchise is now set for at least a 10yr span.
what the browns WILL (most likely) do.............draft RG3........realize just how overrated he was over the course of the next 2-3yrs of 6-10 records or worse.......and be right in the same position you are now.....top 5 draft pick wondering who you could pick that can improve your team to at least mediocre.
somebody save this post and be ready to post it in a couple years when everyone is asking why the browns still suck.......it'll be like reading an original scroll from Nostradamus.
You're thinking from a STEELERS perspective. Now if you didn't have Ben, and Charlie Batch was your starting qb, sure it would make sense to get Manning.
One thing for sure I got out of Holmgren and Heckert's presser- they're thinking LONG TERM. Peyton Manning is a short term band-aid, admittedly a very attractive band aid- BUT. You're smart enough to know football history, so tell be what Joe Montana got Kansas City- couple of playoff years, and then off to tend the vineyard in California. Sorry, I want a Browns team that's going to put a can of whuup-ass on the Steelers for the next decade or so, not the next two years.
You seriously think Manning's good for another 5 years? The guy has had a cervical fusion, and IF he comes back, he's living on borrowed time. I'm sure he can make a few million a year doing SONY commercials at far less risk of paralysis.
Now I'm far from sold on spread qbs making it in the NFL- but Griffin does have a few things going for him- he's very accurate, has as much arm (if not more) than Andrew Luck, as mobile as Cam Newton, and has one thing Jamarcus Russell was seriously lacking in- smarts. RG III got accepted into law school.
The best thing that could happen to the Browns is Luck- RG III- and Kalil go 1-2-3, and Blackmon falls right into our lap. Better yet, RG III is still there, and Snyder the buffoon offers us his first and second to take Griffin. Seems like Mangini knew what the was doing when he traded away the rights to Sanchez, and H&H are every bit as smart qb wise.
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If Blackmon isn't there, RG3/Wright is my ideal draft.
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what the browns WILL (most likely) do.............draft RG3........realize just how overrated he was over the course of the next 2-3yrs of 6-10 records or worse.......and be right in the same position you are now.....top 5 draft pick wondering who you could pick that can improve your team to at least mediocre.
Way to be positive.
Trying to get Peyton, at his age, with the doubts on his health, with his high price tag, is a "Redskins" move. "Win now at all costs! Mortgage the future while we're at it."
This kind of sad-sack pessimism (among other things) is why the Browns organization will never stabilize.
Draft RGIII if available, draft the best WR they can with their next pick, and just focus on the offense for the rest of the picks.
Though Seneca was not great statistically (and had some of the same issues behind the line that Colt did), there were some games where at long last, a substantial drive turned into touchdowns. I'd rather see if RGIII can do the same from a younger vantage point. Peyton is an NFL legend, but the Browns buying up vets for the sake of now, instead of the future is a horribly, sterotypically "Cleveland" thing to do. It's time for some change hereabouts. Besides, I see a "Peyton on some other team" situation looking a lot like Favre in Minnesota. Let's avoid that.
Way to be positive.
Trying to get Peyton, at his age, with the doubts on his health, with his high price tag, is a "Redskins" move. "Win now at all costs! Mortgage the future while we're at it."
This kind of sad-sack pessimism (among other things) is why the Browns organization will never stabilize.
Draft RGIII if available, draft the best WR they can with their next pick, and just focus on the offense for the rest of the picks.
Though Seneca was not great statistically (and had some of the same issues behind the line that Colt did), there were some games where at long last, a substantial drive turned into touchdowns. I'd rather see if RGIII can do the same from a younger vantage point. Peyton is an NFL legend, but the Browns buying up vets for the sake of now, instead of the future is a horribly, sterotypically "Cleveland" thing to do. It's time for some change hereabouts. Besides, I see a "Peyton on some other team" situation looking a lot like Favre in Minnesota. Let's avoid that.
You mean when favre took them to the nfc championship game and nearly won? I'd be ok with that.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Jamarcus Russell was a quiter...I don't see that in RG3.
nobody saw it from jamarcus either. what u think the scouting report read something like..........."kid's a HUGE athlete, big and tall at about 6'7" 265lbs, runs a 4.6, can throw LITTERALLY from endzone to endzone, and has had a stellar college career.......oh, and he's a quitter."?
nope.
and jamarcus didn't start quitting until he started going through the rigors of the NFL. it wasnt' until he hit the pro's that he was exposed......same with RG3.
i'm gonna say it right now so it's on record. what should the browns do? get peyton (if healthy, and he should be) for the next 5yrs.....earn instant legitimacy and contender status.......start BUILDING A TRADITION OF WINNING AND CONTENDING........which would make the browns MUCH more attractive to future FA's.....draft another QB and let him spend 3-4yrs learning behind one of the greatest of all times.........franchise is now set for at least a 10yr span.
what the browns WILL (most likely) do.............draft RG3........realize just how overrated he was over the course of the next 2-3yrs of 6-10 records or worse.......and be right in the same position you are now.....top 5 draft pick wondering who you could pick that can improve your team to at least mediocre.
somebody save this post and be ready to post it in a couple years when everyone is asking why the browns still suck.......it'll be like reading an original scroll from Nostradamus.
and jamarcus didn't start quitting until he started going through the rigors of the NFL. it wasnt' until he hit the pro's that he was exposed......same with RG3.
dude, he quit as soon as he signed his multi-million dollar contract.
i know you're a steeler troll with some standing on this board BUT can you stop with the 'typical browns football' fan bullshit because not everybody here thinks the same. i know it might be different than your community trailer park thinking, but must of us here can form our own opinions on things.
i know it's your purpose to be annoying but give it a break.
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and jamarcus didn't start quitting until he started going through the rigors of the NFL. it wasnt' until he hit the pro's that he was exposed......same with RG3.
dude, he quit as soon as he signed his multi-million dollar contract.
i know you're a steeler troll with some standing on this board BUT can you stop with the 'typical browns football' fan bullshit because not everybody here thinks the same. i know it might be different than your community trailer park thinking, but must of us here can form our own opinions on things.
i know it's your purpose to be annoying but give it a break.
dude, he quit as soon as he signed his multi-million dollar contract.
i know you're a steeler troll with some standing on this board BUT can you stop with the 'typical browns football' fan bullshit because not everybody here thinks the same. i know it might be different than your community trailer park thinking, but must of us here can form our own opinions on things.
i know it's your purpose to be annoying but give it a break.
ZING!
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as i stated with you before to compare him with russell is completely Retarded and ignorant. They literally are two different athletes, and many saw russell as an extreme risk at the number one overall pick. I bet a lot of money that he falls greatly if Al Davis (RIP) wasn't a crazy owner who was obsessed with speed and arm strength. It's obvious you're basing your opinion off nothing more than faulty slippery slope logic of "man he's a athletic QB who ran a lot in college he can't be good!" What a tool buddy. If you come back here with actual logic why they are the same please, i'm all ears. But right now you just look like a douche
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