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Interesting Stats On Kickoffs And Touchbacks.

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  • VaporTrail VaporTrailV Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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    I just checked your numbers, they're right. When I get back on campus, I think I'll graph some of this data. I don't want to do it in Excel.

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      jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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      Thanks for double checking me. I did this when I basically woke up so I figured something was wrong haha. It'd be cool to see this as a graph too, I'm good at math and that type of stuff but I'm sure you can do that better than me.

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        jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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        Does anyone have an opinion on this? I feel like this was an underlying issue of the NFL this year that really changed the game.

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          halfsaneH halfsane wrote on last edited by
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          My only opinions on the matter are that Dawson can't kick far enough and the new rules need reversed because commercial, touchback, commercial pisses me off.

          BTW, We have all witnessed Dawson not kicking the ball into the endzone, but then how does he make those long ass field goals?

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          • halfsaneH halfsane

            My only opinions on the matter are that Dawson can't kick far enough and the new rules need reversed because commercial, touchback, commercial pisses me off.

            BTW, We have all witnessed Dawson not kicking the ball into the endzone, but then how does he make those long ass field goals?

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            TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns wrote on last edited by TypicalBrowns
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            @halfsane said:

            My only opinions on the matter are that Dawson can't kick far enough and the new rules need reversed because commercial, touchback, commercial pisses me off.

            BTW, We have all witnessed Dawson not kicking the ball into the endzone, but then how does he make those long ass field goals?

            It truly is an awful rule and takes away the excitement from kickoffs. However, the league is becoming pussified, so I bet even more rules are on the way for next season.

            And Dawson should stay because he's led the team in scoring the past 5 years, and he still only scores half what other players score.

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              P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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              How about judging Dawson's net avg for kickoffs instead of the # of touchbacks. Who cares if he doesn't get a lot of touchbacks if the opponent start at a field position worse than their own 20.

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                How about judging Dawson's net avg for kickoffs instead of the # of touchbacks. Who cares if he doesn't get a lot of touchbacks if the opponent start at a field position worse than their own 20.

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                jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                @pumpkin-eater said:

                How about judging Dawson's net avg for kickoffs instead of the # of touchbacks. Who cares if he doesn't get a lot of touchbacks if the opponent start at a field position worse than their own 20.

                This is true, but I would have to believe that it would be significantly higher than the 20 yard line. I have been looking for this stat for a minute but can't really find much. The biggest thing that is concerning is just the top part, that nearly half of kickoffs lead to touchbacks and the opportunity to change the game on special teams.

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                  jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                  wow ghoolie, I can only imagine how cool of a guy you are in real life. I never stated once that I was a wizard of math, I was just helping out people who didn't quite get the idea. The mean and median is used just in calculus as well but it is a statistical function. I don't think I did some magical mathematical evaluation there, but you're such a douche you just assume everything about everyone. I realize that the median would technically be 16.5 there, but it was still at 44% either way give or take.

                  Why are you the way you are? That's a serious question, I don't get why people act the way you do. Instead of talking about football you take the time to point out little things I wrote that wasn't spot on correct to boost your ego and make you feel like you're some big man talking crap on an internet football forum. I just hope I don't get to be an over the hill man who resorts to doing this in my life. I'm sure if you respond you'll write something you think is witty and intelligent, but it's just sad.

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                    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                    Just ignore him. I've taken all the math courses he has, and then some. He's right, it's stats, and no calculus is involved, but he didn't have to be such a dick about it. Why bite his head off for trying? Anyways, I'm glad you presented the data.

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                      B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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                      @king-ghoolie-lives said:

                      Calculus is mathematics. Statistics is simple arithmatic, NOT MATH.

                      Despite being a complete asshole, you were right until the above statement. Stats isn't math?! Stats can involve simple arithmetic but can also be very complex. Topics involving stochastic processes, Bayesian Methods, time series analysis, life contingencies, investment analysis, portfolio theory, ect. all involve plenty of complex probability and statistical theories and analysis.

                      The point is, you chastise someone for making incorrect mathematical statements and then make the same error yourself. You are the epitome of a hypocritical douchebag..

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @vaportrail said:

                        ITT: Mathematics dick measuring contest

                        I guess while we're at it. I've got a graduate level math course that starts today. I haven't taken a math or physics course for 3 semesters. This feels like an eternity. That said, it's biostatistics, since we're on the topic. It should be a cakewalk.

                        Here are the only "Biostatistics you need": Men are men, women are women.....and then there are eunuchs.

                        Which one are you?

                        http://www.kenyon.edu/biology.xml

                        (my son is a bio major)

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @king-ghoolie-lives said:

                          I thik we all agree whether by statistics or calculus............. Joshua Cribbs is a turd.

                          You mean he is a fractional interest like turdy tree and a turd? 33 1/3 (rpm)?

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