Mel Kiper Jrs First Rd Mock
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Zombo said:
You had us trading up.
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I dont understand?
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I just checked. He got 3 out of 32 right.
That is probably no worse than anyone else who does a mock draft would do.
I will say this: last year he had the Browns taking AJ Green. The Browns WOULD have taken AJ Green if he were there. But the Bengals snatched Green first. It is the whole butterfly effect. One move throws off the entire rest of the draft from the perspective of someone doing a mock.
Think what the Browns situation would have been if AJ Green were there. They take him, which means they don't trade down. No Phil Taylor, no Greg Little....it is quite possible that not a single player that they got would have been taken by them.
That is probably no worse than anyone else who does a mock draft would do.
I will say this: last year he had the Browns taking AJ Green. The Browns WOULD have taken AJ Green if he were there. But the Bengals snatched Green first. It is the whole butterfly effect. One move throws off the entire rest of the draft from the perspective of someone doing a mock.
Think what the Browns situation would have been if AJ Green were there. They take him, which means they don't trade down. No Phil Taylor, no Greg Little....it is quite possible that not a single player that they got would have been taken by them.
Gips, it's not just one year- compared to some other mock guys Kiper has consistently sucked in his predictions.
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That is probably no worse than anyone else who does a mock draft would do.
I will say this: last year he had the Browns taking AJ Green. The Browns WOULD have taken AJ Green if he were there. But the Bengals snatched Green first. It is the whole butterfly effect. One move throws off the entire rest of the draft from the perspective of someone doing a mock.
Think what the Browns situation would have been if AJ Green were there. They take him, which means they don't trade down. No Phil Taylor, no Greg Little....it is quite possible that not a single player that they got would have been taken by them.
Actually my final mock draft last year got several more correct than Kiper.
Just like almost all mocks out there have you guys taking RGIII, im wondering if you think Cleveland absolutely HAS to trade up with St. Louis to get him? At this point, and with the whole Rookie Wage Scale, im saying that almost HAVE to. I think if St. Louis is on the clock and no one trades with them, there will be guys on the phone with Minnesota. I think Cleveland has to trade up or theyll lose out on RGIII.
Actually my final mock draft last year got several more correct than Kiper.
Just like almost all mocks out there have you guys taking RGIII, im wondering if you think Cleveland absolutely HAS to trade up with St. Louis to get him? At this point, and with the whole Rookie Wage Scale, im saying that almost HAVE to. I think if St. Louis is on the clock and no one trades with them, there will be guys on the phone with Minnesota. I think Cleveland has to trade up or theyll lose out on RGIII.
So we should take RG III just because a bunch of mock drafts say we should? AND trade up to do so? All depends on what kind of offers the Rams get for that pick. Let 'em trade out of it- to have Blackmon fall right in our lap.
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All else fails Richardson is there and we take him. He's NFL ready and runs with purpose kinda like Peterson. He'd fill a hole and would be the best available.
All else fails Richardson is there and we take him. He's NFL ready and runs with purpose kinda like Peterson. He'd fill a hole and would be the best available.
Richardson will be there, take it to the bank. And we won't be taking him. "and runs with purpose kinda like Arian Foster" undrafted free agent.
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Actually my final mock draft last year got several more correct than Kiper.
Just like almost all mocks out there have you guys taking RGIII, im wondering if you think Cleveland absolutely HAS to trade up with St. Louis to get him? At this point, and with the whole Rookie Wage Scale, im saying that almost HAVE to. I think if St. Louis is on the clock and no one trades with them, there will be guys on the phone with Minnesota. I think Cleveland has to trade up or theyll lose out on RGIII.
So we should take RG III just because a bunch of mock drafts say we should? AND trade up to do so? All depends on what kind of offers the Rams get for that pick. Let 'em trade out of it- to have Blackmon fall right in our lap.
So we should take RG III just because a bunch of mock drafts say we should? AND trade up to do so? All depends on what kind of offers the Rams get for that pick. Let 'em trade out of it- to have Blackmon fall right in our lap.
If I were you guys, Id be very happy. Im sure you are anyway. Like mentioned in what I quoted, if you dont move up to take RGIII, be more than happy with Blackmon. I dont think the Browns 2012 is gonna be made or broken by the selection of RGIII.
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Kiper is a joke, there are more quality mocks out there than his. But on a side note, I hope the Browns pass on the whole RGIII phenomenon because although he is good the Browns have bigger needs than a QB. I'm hoping they do what they did last year and trade back a few picks and grab another first rounder for next year and a third or second rounder this year. Next year's draft is going to be loaded with QBs if McCoy doesn't prove himself yet again. Number one need for the Browns has to be a RT or RG, they were pitiful last year on the ride side. This is what I think they should do in the draft in order to most important:
1. OL (right side)
2. WR (Kendal Wright?)
3. OLB
4. CB
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yeah here's his first mock from last year. tell me how many he got right? HA!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/579050-mel-kipers-2011-nfl-mock-draft-a-pick-by-pick-critique
Um this link has a Jan 20, 2011 date on it so I hardly doubt that this was Mels final mock before the draft. The freaking complete draft order wasn't even set etc. Its fair to criticize Kiper but at least do so with his final mock.
Um this link has a Jan 20, 2011 date on it so I hardly doubt that this was Mels final mock before the draft. The freaking complete draft order wasn't even set etc. Its fair to criticize Kiper but at least do so with his final mock.
hey dipshit i was comparing his first mock of last year with his first mock of this year since everybody is jumping on his "the browns will pick RGlll" bandwagon.
tell me, how did he do in his final mock einstein?
fxxk mr. brylcream.
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Um this link has a Jan 20, 2011 date on it so I hardly doubt that this was Mels final mock before the draft. The freaking complete draft order wasn't even set etc. Its fair to criticize Kiper but at least do so with his final mock.
hey dipshit i was comparing his first mock of last year with his first mock of this year since everybody is jumping on his "the browns will pick RGlll" bandwagon.
tell me, how did he do in his final mock einstein?
fxxk mr. brylcream.
hey dipshit i was comparing his first mock of last year with his first mock of this year since everybody is jumping on his "the browns will pick RGlll" bandwagon.
tell me, how did he do in his final mock einstein?
fxxk mr. brylcream.
I dont know how he did but everybodys mocks change based on combine performances, knowing the actual final draft order would help too. Its silly to say Mel Kiper sucks because his mock 3 months before the draft was only 9% accurate. Well how many other drafts sites were much better. The early mocks are just fun discussion starters until we get within a couple weeks of the draft. Free agency can also affect team needs, where they lose or gain players. Dont get mad a me for making because you made a dumb observation.
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only dumb observation was on your part because you didn't realize what we were talking about, johnny-come-lately.
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Um this link has a Jan 20, 2011 date on it so I hardly doubt that this was Mels final mock before the draft. The freaking complete draft order wasn't even set etc. Its fair to criticize Kiper but at least do so with his final mock.
hey dipshit i was comparing his first mock of last year with his first mock of this year since everybody is jumping on his "the browns will pick RGlll" bandwagon.
tell me, how did he do in his final mock einstein?
fxxk mr. brylcream.
hey dipshit i was comparing his first mock of last year with his first mock of this year since everybody is jumping on his "the browns will pick RGlll" bandwagon.
tell me, how did he do in his final mock einstein?
fxxk mr. brylcream.
Well I dont have ESPN insider so I cant tell you how many he did get right. I can tell you he got the first 6 picks right as can be seen here:
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2011/4/28/2138205/mel-kipers-final-mock-cleveland-browns-julio-jones
However you could pull up his final mock here if you have insider:
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That is probably no worse than anyone else who does a mock draft would do.
I will say this: last year he had the Browns taking AJ Green. The Browns WOULD have taken AJ Green if he were there. But the Bengals snatched Green first. It is the whole butterfly effect. One move throws off the entire rest of the draft from the perspective of someone doing a mock.
Think what the Browns situation would have been if AJ Green were there. They take him, which means they don't trade down. No Phil Taylor, no Greg Little....it is quite possible that not a single player that they got would have been taken by them.
Actually my final mock draft last year got several more correct than Kiper.
Just like almost all mocks out there have you guys taking RGIII, im wondering if you think Cleveland absolutely HAS to trade up with St. Louis to get him? At this point, and with the whole Rookie Wage Scale, im saying that almost HAVE to. I think if St. Louis is on the clock and no one trades with them, there will be guys on the phone with Minnesota. I think Cleveland has to trade up or theyll lose out on RGIII.
Actually my final mock draft last year got several more correct than Kiper.
Just like almost all mocks out there have you guys taking RGIII, im wondering if you think Cleveland absolutely HAS to trade up with St. Louis to get him? At this point, and with the whole Rookie Wage Scale, im saying that almost HAVE to. I think if St. Louis is on the clock and no one trades with them, there will be guys on the phone with Minnesota. I think Cleveland has to trade up or theyll lose out on RGIII.
The screw him. Let the other teams have him. We need quality talent....and we need numbers....not just one guy...who like I said, is a question mark.
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Kiper is a joke, there are more quality mocks out there than his. But on a side note, I hope the Browns pass on the whole RGIII phenomenon because although he is good the Browns have bigger needs than a QB. I'm hoping they do what they did last year and trade back a few picks and grab another first rounder for next year and a third or second rounder this year. Next year's draft is going to be loaded with QBs if McCoy doesn't prove himself yet again. Number one need for the Browns has to be a RT or RG, they were pitiful last year on the ride side. This is what I think they should do in the draft in order to most important:
1. OL (right side)
2. WR (Kendal Wright?)
3. OLB
4. CB
Kiper is a joke, there are more quality mocks out there than his. But on a side note, I hope the Browns pass on the whole RGIII phenomenon because although he is good the Browns have bigger needs than a QB. I'm hoping they do what they did last year and trade back a few picks and grab another first rounder for next year and a third or second rounder this year. Next year's draft is going to be loaded with QBs if McCoy doesn't prove himself yet again. Number one need for the Browns has to be a RT or RG, they were pitiful last year on the ride side. This is what I think they should do in the draft in order to most important:
1. OL (right side)
2. WR (Kendal Wright?)
3. OLB
4. CB
OOOh, there you said the Magic Words: the Browns have bigger need than QB.
I agree 100%, but a lot of guys cannot see the forest for the trees. All they see is the QB...as if this were tennis or golf and the QB is the only player out there. he ain't.
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I think it might be smarter for Cleveland NOT to trade up. I mean, its not like you guys DONT have a QB. Because if you do trade up, most likely youre gonna have to give up #22. So ask the question, would I rather have ONE or TWO first round players? To me, i would rather have 2. Especially for a team with multiple needs. Just my 2 cents.
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I think it might be smarter for Cleveland NOT to trade up. I mean, its not like you guys DONT have a QB. Because if you do trade up, most likely youre gonna have to give up #22. So ask the question, would I rather have ONE or TWO first round players? To me, i would rather have 2. Especially for a team with multiple needs. Just my 2 cents.
I think it might be smarter for Cleveland NOT to trade up. I mean, its not like you guys DONT have a QB. Because if you do trade up, most likely youre gonna have to give up #22. So ask the question, would I rather have ONE or TWO first round players? To me, i would rather have 2. Especially for a team with multiple needs. Just my 2 cents.
And we all agree with you. So please dont believe any mock drafts by any experts that say we will trade both our picks for #2. It is not worth it.
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