Jim Tressel H.c. Of The I.c.?
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I would sentence Tressel to dress like Angus Young and make him shower with Sandusky every day for 10 years. I think a true fan of OSU would chastise anyone that brought a bad light to this school! But nooooo, we'll just blow smoke up everyone's ass and act like a big baby. If you want to be proud of anything, you must promote honesty and class! Making excuses for these morons is just childish.
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Bullshit, he new it was wrong an tried to cover it up! If you don't like the NCAA red tape, either work to change the rules, live by them or get a job slinging fries. I see many rules that I do not agree with but I have to comply or be punished. Have you ever known one of these sport stars? They are treated like royalty and feel the rules don't apply to them, they are special. And for the most part, they are correct!
"no one thinks what Tressel did was that bad" I know many alum that don't have their head up their ass that think he did OSU wrong by protecting these narcissistic players. I am an OSU fan and would love to be proud of it's football program but, I'm not!
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You heard me and understand....just can't swallow the truth cause you have been nothing more that a click cheerleader your whole life! Get your ticket out and go see lady goo goo and cry!
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thanks woody for being an idiot but he did win 6 straight Big Ten TiTles and oh yeah more BCS games than any other coach
so you can now stick your head back up yrass
Wow, ok. That's a reasonable response to someone that has a different opinion than you....
Not to turn this into a college discussion but Ohio St fans need to realize something, when people bring up OSU, Tressel and cheating, we aren't talking about the tattoos and items the players sold. No one cars about that. Sure, it was kind of suspicious that Pryor drove around in a new car every week and sure it was a dick move by Tressel to rig student raffles so recruits would win, but that isn't the main point here. Tressel knowingly played players that were ineligible and did not tell the NCAA about it. That sounds like a competitive advantage to me.
Wow, ok. That's a reasonable response to someone that has a different opinion than you....
Not to turn this into a college discussion but Ohio St fans need to realize something, when people bring up OSU, Tressel and cheating, we aren't talking about the tattoos and items the players sold. No one cars about that. Sure, it was kind of suspicious that Pryor drove around in a new car every week and sure it was a dick move by Tressel to rig student raffles so recruits would win, but that isn't the main point here. Tressel knowingly played players that were ineligible and did not tell the NCAA about it. That sounds like a competitive advantage to me.
Hell, the NCAA let them play even after they found out about the violations. If it was such a bad deal, why did they let them play in the Sugar Bowl.
Pure Hypocrisy.
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Wow, I say one thing you guys don't like and you just throw insults my way. Mighty big of you.
I'm not saying the NCAA rules are perfect, they are far from it, but rules are rules, some OSU players broke them, and Tressel purposely kept that hidden so he could keep them on the field.
and on Meyer, you say OSU will dominate Michigan for the next decade. Has Urban Meyer ever stayed anywhere for a decade?
Wow, I say one thing you guys don't like and you just throw insults my way. Mighty big of you.
I'm not saying the NCAA rules are perfect, they are far from it, but rules are rules, some OSU players broke them, and Tressel purposely kept that hidden so he could keep them on the field.
and on Meyer, you say OSU will dominate Michigan for the next decade. Has Urban Meyer ever stayed anywhere for a decade?
You see, to Meyer, there is no higher plane to achieve than being the OSU coach. Even the almighty (and heavily cheat filled 200K players) SEC wasn't as high as OSU.
I mean, it would be like if a guy born/raised in Michigan wanted to come back to Michigan to coach....but we know that all the good coaches come from Ohio...even those from the SEC. Les Miles, Nick Saban, Meyer....and other conferences like Stoop for OK.
Name any good coaches that came from Michigan.
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Hell, I don't care where Joe is dancing, he's dead! But, JT is alive, here on earth, in a leadership position. Let's hold him to the highest standard and show everyone that the risk of being a cheat is not worth it.
Hell, I don't care where Joe is dancing, he's dead! But, JT is alive, here on earth, in a leadership position. Let's hold him to the highest standard and show everyone that the risk of being a cheat is not worth it.
It is irrelevent in the pro game. A guy can be given, say, a Super Bowl ring....and then turn around and sell it. And he won't be declared "ineligible" to play the next season.
Even after the NFL knew he sold it.
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^ I am a traitor to Ohio because I chose to go to a college better than any in the state of Ohio? Why should I have to limit myself academically just to prove I am a real Browns fan/Ohioan?
Also, I don't believe you understand what Walmart Wolverine is. I know you guys love to insult me every chance you get because of the M in my avatar, but at least insult me correctly...
^ I am a traitor to Ohio because I chose to go to a college better than any in the state of Ohio? Why should I have to limit myself academically just to prove I am a real Browns fan/Ohioan?
Also, I don't believe you understand what Walmart Wolverine is. I know you guys love to insult me every chance you get because of the M in my avatar, but at least insult me correctly...
Shoulda applied at MIT dude.
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I never said I agreed with the rules, I just said he lied to the NCAA.
I'm not sure if that children line is sarcastic or not. If it is, that's pretty funny.
I never said I agreed with the rules, I just said he lied to the NCAA.
I'm not sure if that children line is sarcastic or not. If it is, that's pretty funny.
How do you reconcile the fact that after he DID report it....and it WAS Tressel who reported it....and it was Tressel who told them the first time that he did not report the violation....that the NCAA allowed the players to play even knowing what they did?
They essentially said: we know you violated our archaic rules, we know the coach didn't report you....we have all the facts....but we are going to ignore everything and allow you to play in the Sugar Bowl.
Explain that.
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Zombo said:
As an outsider and a fan of a rival team ... no one thinks what Tressel did was that bad, he just caught up in all the ridiculous NCAA red tape bureaucracy ... he was a great coach and his good FAR outweighs any bad ... to suggest otherwise is a complete moron or someone with an ax to grind.
Z
Which team is that Z?
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I was going to and help the Michigan guy out and say Brady Hoke but he's from Ohio and went to college in Indiana...
I was going to and help the Michigan guy out and say Brady Hoke but he's from Ohio and went to college in Indiana...
I didn't know he was from Ohio. I think he is probably going to be a good coach....but it just proves the adage I said before:
"There ain't nothin' good about Michigan that didn't come from Ohio".
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How do you reconcile the fact that after he DID report it....and it WAS Tressel who reported it....and it was Tressel who told them the first time that he did not report the violation....that the NCAA allowed the players to play even knowing what they did?
They essentially said: we know you violated our archaic rules, we know the coach didn't report you....we have all the facts....but we are going to ignore everything and allow you to play in the Sugar Bowl.
Explain that.
Two corrupt, incompetent organizations do not make a right.
The NCAA shouldn't have let them play in the Sugar Bowl.
Tressel shouldn't have lied to the NCAA and played players he knew were ineligible.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I was going to and help the Michigan guy out and say Brady Hoke but he's from Ohio and went to college in Indiana...
I didn't know he was from Ohio. I think he is probably going to be a good coach....but it just proves the adage I said before:
"There ain't nothin' good about Michigan that didn't come from Ohio".
I didn't know he was from Ohio. I think he is probably going to be a good coach....but it just proves the adage I said before:
"There ain't nothin' good about Michigan that didn't come from Ohio".
I actually didn't know that either. I thought he was from Indiana. But he is a very very good football coach.
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How do you reconcile the fact that after he DID report it....and it WAS Tressel who reported it....and it was Tressel who told them the first time that he did not report the violation....that the NCAA allowed the players to play even knowing what they did?
They essentially said: we know you violated our archaic rules, we know the coach didn't report you....we have all the facts....but we are going to ignore everything and allow you to play in the Sugar Bowl.
Explain that.
Two corrupt, incompetent organizations do not make a right.
The NCAA shouldn't have let them play in the Sugar Bowl.
Tressel shouldn't have lied to the NCAA and played players he knew were ineligible.
Two corrupt, incompetent organizations do not make a right.
Are we talking about Michigan,who in 2009 admitted to NCAA allegations that they practiced too soon and too long according to NCAA rules?
Then being a stand up institution, they are,gave themselves a self imposed slap on the wrist to pacify the NCAA
Let's see which rule infraction "should" make your team better?
Trinkets for Tattoos ?
Practicing when the rules say your not allowed ?
But you see all was forgiven , because Michigan sucked
The NCAA shouldn't have let them play in the Sugar Bowl
The problem here is the NCAA couldn't guarantee the fine sponsors of the "Whogivesashit Sugar Bowl" anyone would show if OSU doesn't
show with all it's star power
My question is...If Ohio State has to forfeit it's win from the Sugar Bowl because of infractions the NCAA knew about
Shouldn't they also have to give up their share of the take from playing in a BCS game? Which they split evenly with the rest of the Big Ten
I believe it's around 20 million per game for a BCS purse...So I say come on boys...lets all pony up that ill gotten cash , and give back to it's rightful owner
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I'm not going to debate the legitimacy or competence of the NCAA and their rules. I am just here to state that Tressel lied to the NCAA and broke the rules.
and yes, Rich Rod did get caught practicing too long (about 20 minutes a day). Most of which was stretching and warm ups, but it was still against the rules. It was something most schools do and many coaches defended him on it, including Tressel, but that doesn't change the fact it was against the rules. I'm very disappointed that Rich Rod tainted the name of Michigan and Michigan football. I don't believe what Rich Rod did was as bad as Tressel, as we worked with the NCAA the entire way and imposed our own adequate and fair punishments, unlike Tressel and OSU. It also doesn't help when you have fatass pussies transferring away because they don't have the endurance for the spread {Boren) so on the way out they try to hurt the program as much as they can.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
How do you reconcile the fact that after he DID report it....and it WAS Tressel who reported it....and it was Tressel who told them the first time that he did not report the violation....that the NCAA allowed the players to play even knowing what they did?
They essentially said: we know you violated our archaic rules, we know the coach didn't report you....we have all the facts....but we are going to ignore everything and allow you to play in the Sugar Bowl.
Explain that.
Two corrupt, incompetent organizations do not make a right.
The NCAA shouldn't have let them play in the Sugar Bowl.
Tressel shouldn't have lied to the NCAA and played players he knew were ineligible.
Two corrupt, incompetent organizations do not make a right.
The NCAA shouldn't have let them play in the Sugar Bowl.
Tressel shouldn't have lied to the NCAA and played players he knew were ineligible.
Except, of course, no on is ineligible until the NCAA declares them ineligible.
The NCAA ALLOWED to play AFTER what they knew what they did. If the NCAA didn't declare them ineligible when they knew the facts why should Tressel declare them ineligible?
Tressel's problem was in failing to report the potential violations, sure.
Here is the point: nothing that Tressel or these players did was either corrupt or incompetent. All these were were technical rules violations.
So, you go a little fast on the highway...a minor technical violation...neither corrupt nor incompetent, just a violation.
Then you lie to the cop that stops you. You get a charge for falsification. More serious than the speeding violation, but still a technical violation.
Cops and the NCAA both want YOU to make their job easy for them...so they make it a serious violation if you inconvenience them.If he had just reported it, this situation would have been nothing at all. Since he didn't, that is where the big trouble came from. If in fact the FBI told him not to report it, then that should have been a mitigating factor that woulda/shoulda absolved him completely. (but that is not what happened from my understanding)
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I'm not going to debate the legitimacy or competence of the NCAA and their rules. I am just here to state that Tressel lied to the NCAA and broke the rules.
and yes, Rich Rod did get caught practicing too long (about 20 minutes a day). Most of which was stretching and warm ups, but it was still against the rules. It was something most schools do and many coaches defended him on it, including Tressel, but that doesn't change the fact it was against the rules. I'm very disappointed that Rich Rod tainted the name of Michigan and Michigan football. I don't believe what Rich Rod did was as bad as Tressel, as we worked with the NCAA the entire way and imposed our own adequate and fair punishments, unlike Tressel and OSU. It also doesn't help when you have fatass pussies transferring away because they don't have the endurance for the spread {Boren) so on the way out they try to hurt the program as much as they can.
I'm not going to debate the legitimacy or competence of the NCAA and their rules. I am just here to state that Tressel lied to the NCAA and broke the rules.
and yes, Rich Rod did get caught practicing too long (about 20 minutes a day). Most of which was stretching and warm ups, but it was still against the rules. It was something most schools do and many coaches defended him on it, including Tressel, but that doesn't change the fact it was against the rules. I'm very disappointed that Rich Rod tainted the name of Michigan and Michigan football. I don't believe what Rich Rod did was as bad as Tressel, as we worked with the NCAA the entire way and imposed our own adequate and fair punishments, unlike Tressel and OSU. It also doesn't help when you have fatass pussies transferring away because they don't have the endurance for the spread {Boren) so on the way out they try to hurt the program as much as they can.
It wasn't Rich Rod who tainted the name of Michigan.
It was Michigan that tainted the name of Michigan.
Tressel asking for an extension of his punishment, and then ultimately resigning isn't a fair punishment? What world do you live in?
I also guarantee you wouldn't call Boren a fat pussy to his face, nor would you do it to someone a quarter of his size.
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Asking for extended punishment, when your punishment was nothing to begin with, isn't noble. Especially when you eventually had to resign to help the university save face anyway, making the earlier punishment null and void.
Besides, I was talking about the punishment the university put on itself. Their original punishment was nothing, then the NCAA added to it and at least got it up to adequate. Compared to what USC got, they sure feel awfully lucky
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Well this thread took a turn for the boring. Both teams got caught, move on. Just consider yourselves lucky the punishments received/imposed are mere slaps on the wrist.
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