Obamao Mandates Religious Employers Cover Contraceptions And Sterilization Costs
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You were on the slippery slope, and you just slid off.
That was very clever. You deserve a cookie. Or maybe some more seeds and dehydrated meals for your doomsday bunker
... no dude I didn't read the second article, I had shit to do. Give me credit for reading one article from a guy that is trying to prove the Obama administration is trying to push death panels... lol
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no dude I didn't read the second article, I had shit to do. Woodpecker
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Cherry picking to save face, eh? Truth makes libs feel bad, so they ignore the truth?
I'm sure if you find a few minutes in the next week, you could read it. Maybe.
Stop by and let me know when you do. We'll leave the light on for ya.
Maybe you'll *see it.
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Wait a sec, when did I say I was a liberal? Just because I disagree with you on something and don't think Obama is the anti-christ that makes me a liberal?
I didn't notice this before
Pretty smart of Palin
but lulz
I love how you say things pro-life-y. No, its the MURDER of unborn CHILDREN! MURDER! lol. That little squiggly mass of 4 cells right after conception isn't anything, but ok.
If you think it is that's fine, I just don't think you should force your view on to everyone else. You don't see any irony in you being mad at what you think Obama is doing but then being fine with forcing everyone to not get an abortion?
So I watched that second video, and these are the first comments I saw "Not a real surgeon" "Fake" "Hoax", etc. This is already not looking good for you, but I looked into it more. I went to AANS.org and found an official statement about this interview
http://www.aans.org/pdf/AANS_News/Mark_Levin_Statement_FINAL.PDF
There ya go. If you are going to use sources to make your point, at least make sure they are real.... how very Fox News of you
By the way, the posts on that freerepublic forum are hilarious. It reads like a bunch of old people being afraid because a black family moved into their neighborhood lol.
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oh no, now we're for sure going to hell in a handbasket
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Just for the sake of argument, is there any point during the 9 months that you believe a fetus actually becomes a human life?
( Just asking the pro choice guys)
WSS
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Good question. I'd err on the side of caution and say sooner than later. I mean, if shit went down, and it really was better for all parties involved for the female to have an abortion, that seems like a decision you should have to come to pretty early.
To say its a "child" at conception is ridiculous though.
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Just for the sake of argument, is there any point during the 9 months that you believe a fetus actually becomes a human life?
( Just asking the pro choice guys)
WSS
Just for the sake of argument, is there any point during the 9 months that you believe a fetus actually becomes a human life?
( Just asking the pro choice guys)
WSS
It's some form of life from the moment of conception. But that also doesn't mean we have a legal obligation to protect it from then on.
Is there a point where aborting a healthy fetus becomes unconscionable to me? Yes.
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Just for the sake of argument, is there any point during the 9 months that you believe a fetus actually becomes a human life?
( Just asking the pro choice guys)
WSS
It's some form of life from the moment of conception. But that also doesn't mean we have a legal obligation to protect it from then on.
Is there a point where aborting a healthy fetus becomes unconscionable to me? Yes.
Is there a point where aborting a healthy fetus becomes unconscionable to me? Yes.
Maybe you do have a heart.
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And, it isn't about "four cells".
MLD, you missed our previous discussions about partial birth abortions. Children deliberately left to die along in a closet,
simply as a method of abortion.
We're talking Congressional testimony on that. And we're talking Obamao not giving a frickin frak about the subject.
Protecting the lives of unborn and just born children is not "forcing women to not have an abortion". It's adhering to the PRINCIPLE
that we, as an American society, value all human life. I personally don't care about a "morning after pill" much... and people that
equate contraception to killing a child that MIGHT HAVE BEEN CREATED are just something I can believe actually exists.
But, if you research PBA.... you will find testimony that Obamao was rude, and couldnt' have cared less about her testimony.
And that is the scary thing about him. The "life of the mother" has nothing to do with it. That's very much just an emotional lever
to use against those who have reservations about abortion. I believe it is extremely, extremely rare, if it ever has come to be a situation.
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I have no idea what testimony you are talking about but I am sure you will provide me with a link to some underground conservative Tea Party website that provides a link to another, more credible source that says something mostly different.
and honestly, we have way more important shit to worry about than our policy on abortions right now...
so, a partial birth abortion is what, like a third trimester abortion? That's obviously too late in the game. I already stated earlier that the decision needs to made pretty early on in the pregnancy.
Also, you say "it is left to die alone in a closet" , you realize it has to be alive first for it to die. Now if it is that late in the pregnancy its one thing. But early on nothing is being killed.
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I have no idea what testimony you are talking about but I am sure you will provide me with a link to some underground conservative Tea Party website that provides a link to another, more credible source that says something mostly different.
and honestly, we have way more important shit to worry about than our policy on abortions right now...
so, a partial birth abortion is what, like a third trimester abortion? That's obviously too late in the game. I already stated earlier that the decision needs to made pretty early on in the pregnancy.
Also, you say "it is left to die alone in a closet" , you realize it has to be alive first for it to die. Now if it is that late in the pregnancy its one thing. But early on nothing is being killed.
I have no idea what testimony you are talking about but I am sure you will provide me with a link to some underground conservative Tea Party website that provides a link to another, more credible source that says something mostly different.
and honestly, we have way more important shit to worry about than our policy on abortions right now...
so, a partial birth abortion is what, like a third trimester abortion? That's obviously too late in the game. I already stated earlier that the decision needs to made pretty early on in the pregnancy.
Also, you say "it is left to die alone in a closet" , you realize it has to be alive first for it to die. Now if it is that late in the pregnancy its one thing. But early on nothing is being killed.
Of course you realize that third trimester abortion is perfectly legal, right?
Should it be in your opinion?
WSS
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Of course you realize that third trimester abortion is perfectly legal, right?
Well.... now that's pushing it. I mean, by that point you've known about this kid for awhile and you should have been able to make up your mind. I would probably make abortion that late illegal, because there is no good reason (probably) for why you had to wait so long.
I mean, I'm clearly no expert, and I really don't want to start searching google for fear of what I might find, and I think pro-life groups tactics of driving around my campus showing pictures of aborted fetuses is underhanded and makes me hate them more, but by that point in your pregnancy, I would think you should know if you're down for the long hall or not.
Of course, a trimester is a 3 month block of time. It seems kind of arbitrary. It would make more sense to look at the historical development of a fetus and look at the point where is really start to develop and move (I'm not even sure at what point this is, or what exactly is going on) and then go back a little bit in time in the pregnancy and make that the cut off.
See, you guys just thought I was some baby murdering liberal, right?
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Of course you realize that third trimester abortion is perfectly legal, right?
Well.... now that's pushing it. I mean, by that point you've known about this kid for awhile and you should have been able to make up your mind. I would probably make abortion that late illegal, because there is no good reason (probably) for why you had to wait so long.
I mean, I'm clearly no expert, and I really don't want to start searching google for fear of what I might find, and I think pro-life groups tactics of driving around my campus showing pictures of aborted fetuses is underhanded and makes me hate them more, but by that point in your pregnancy, I would think you should know if you're down for the long hall or not.
Of course, a trimester is a 3 month block of time. It seems kind of arbitrary. It would make more sense to look at the historical development of a fetus and look at the point where is really start to develop and move (I'm not even sure at what point this is, or what exactly is going on) and then go back a little bit in time in the pregnancy and make that the cut off.
See, you guys just thought I was some baby murdering liberal, right?
Well.... now that's pushing it. I mean, by that point you've known about this kid for awhile and you should have been able to make up your mind. I would probably make abortion that late illegal, because there is no good reason (probably) for why you had to wait so long.
I mean, I'm clearly no expert, and I really don't want to start searching google for fear of what I might find, and I think pro-life groups tactics of driving around my campus showing pictures of aborted fetuses is underhanded and makes me hate them more, but by that point in your pregnancy, I would think you should know if you're down for the long hall or not.
Of course, a trimester is a 3 month block of time. It seems kind of arbitrary. It would make more sense to look at the historical development of a fetus and look at the point where is really start to develop and move (I'm not even sure at what point this is, or what exactly is going on) and then go back a little bit in time in the pregnancy and make that the cut off.
See, you guys just thought I was some baby murdering liberal, right?
You guys?
All I'm trying to point out is this: if you think there is a point in the third trimester which would make an abortion the killing of an innocent human being then I'm not sure how you would describe that other than baby killing.
Furthermore if that is going to be condoned under the law the pro life group has every right to be outraged.
And it has nothing to do with the viablity of the infant.
Also there's probably not much excuse for getting pregnant in the first place other than irresponsibility.
WSS
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You know that Roe v Wade allows for post-viability regulation, right, Steve? The stuff you're saying is "condoned" under the law, in most states, is not condoned at all.
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You're right, its not you guys. Just a few on here.
I'll try not to poet right when I wake up anymore. Also, I think I'll just answer all ur questions in the other thread
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No the biggest problem is one group calling the opposing group "hippies and peace living faggots"
Name calling wont get anything done. That's why are political system is fucked up
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