Combine Risers/fallers
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NW220: When you reference these players I suggest you put their position on front of their names. Some of us don't actually know all of them or what position they play.
Obviously Browns fans are going to tune into players at positions of need. If someone is a LT or C we know the Browns may have no real interest. But if they are a RT or RG or DE or whatever they need, we are more likely to pay attention to the evaluation of players at those positions.
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Has anyone watched Bernard Pierce play? I really like this guy. I don't know what it is but he looks very similar in running style to Walter Peyton. Don't get me wrong on this, by no means am I saying I think he is as good or will ever be as good as Walter Peyton, but I see similarities in the way he runs.
Has anyone watched Bernard Pierce play? I really like this guy. I don't know what it is but he looks very similar in running style to Walter Peyton. Don't get me wrong on this, by no means am I saying I think he is as good or will ever be as good as Walter Peyton, but I see similarities in the way he runs.
Ya I mentioned him in a thread a couple months ago. I think he has potential. He has great vision and good cut back moves, but he isn't that fast. I don't think we would go after him though because he didn't have too many balls thrown his way in college. The Browns will be looking for a RB that excels at catching the ball out of the backfield.
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Then why didn't you state it that way? Base it on your observations from the season....don't try to tie it to their performance in an event that hasn't even taken place yet.
And, FYI, more NFL scouts base their assessment of players far, far more on what they did in games than they do by what they did at the combine.
Exactly. You said it your self that it's about what happens in games. I'm basing these predictions off of what I see from watching them play and how they are viewed once scouts get a really good, upclose look at them at the combine.
Exactly. You said it your self that it's about what happens in games. I'm basing these predictions off of what I see from watching them play and how they are viewed once scouts get a really good, upclose look at them at the combine.
Well, again, you are sounding like the combine already occurred. Maybe its a semantics thing. Maybe you should desist in referring to the combine at all. The combine is only one event in the evaluation process. This Senior Bowl is a big event. School day workouts are big events. e.g. a lot of players from Ohio Schools will participate in the OSU workout day, even if they didn't attend OSU.
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NW220: When you reference these players I suggest you put their position on front of their names. Some of us don't actually know all of them or what position they play.
Obviously Browns fans are going to tune into players at positions of need. If someone is a LT or C we know the Browns may have no real interest. But if they are a RT or RG or DE or whatever they need, we are more likely to pay attention to the evaluation of players at those positions.
NW220: When you reference these players I suggest you put their position on front of their names. Some of us don't actually know all of them or what position they play.
Obviously Browns fans are going to tune into players at positions of need. If someone is a LT or C we know the Browns may have no real interest. But if they are a RT or RG or DE or whatever they need, we are more likely to pay attention to the evaluation of players at those positions.
There you go Gip i updated it for you
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I believe the Browns will be looking to update their *speed* at most positions they draft this year.
Regardless of rb, de, lb, wr, db..
The Browns need to be a faster team. Like, a rb, wr that can take off and make Troy Polleatspoopoo cry because
he can't even keep up with the guy.
After reading a great article about the TE's that the playoff teams have thrown to with great production...
a TE this year who goes to the combine and shows great hands and Vernon Davis speed, will be a big riser.
I don't know if any of them will, from what I've seen....
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I like Doug Martin better than LeMichael
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Agreed he isnt injury prone, and his frame looks like he could take hits at the next level...
Ya he's also projected to run around a 4.55-4.6. If we are trying to add speed then that is a terrible pick. Chris Rainy RB/WR/PR from Florida catches the ball great out of the backfield and runs near a 4.35.
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Agreed he isnt injury prone, and his frame looks like he could take hits at the next level...
Ya he's also projected to run around a 4.55-4.6. If we are trying to add speed then that is a terrible pick. Chris Rainy RB/WR/PR from Florida catches the ball great out of the backfield and runs near a 4.35.
Ya he's also projected to run around a 4.55-4.6. If we are trying to add speed then that is a terrible pick. Chris Rainy RB/WR/PR from Florida catches the ball great out of the backfield and runs near a 4.35.
You hit it right on the head the two backs i think Cleveland should targert most are Martin and Rainey, if Martin is gone in the third round id take a flyer on Rainey later on in the draft...
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Really, Dawginit? I think not. Martin runs a 4.48 or faster, and he will be a second round pick. And if he isn't? I bet the
Browns would dearly love for him to be there in the third round. I want him with the Browns.
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http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=70789&draftyear=2012&genpos=SS
Doug Martin, DS #5 RB, Boise State
Name: Doug Martin
College: Boise State Number: 22
Height: 5-09 Weight: 219
Position: RB Pos2: SS/ATH
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2012
40 Time: 4.48 40 Low: 4.38 40 High: 4.58
Projected Round: 2-3 Stock:
Rated number 5 out of 178 RB's 69 / 2749 TOTAL
Draft Scout Snapshot: 2010: Started each of the Broncos’ 13 games…named first-team All-Western Athletic Conference with 201 carries for 1,260 yards (6.26 per)…scored 12 touchdowns on the ground…also caught 28 passes for 338 yards and two touchdowns. 2009: Moved to the defensive side of the ball during spring drills after playing running back the past two seasons….Primarily played special teams and defense in the first three games, recording seven tackles and forcing one fumble…Moved back to running back following an injury to DJ Harper…Scored the winning touchdown of the 2010 Fiesta Bowl …Finished the season with the most rushing touchdowns of any Bronco (15)…Rushed for 765 yards on 129 carries…Also caught 8 passes for 68 yards…Finished the season with 16 tackles…Won the Denny Erickson (Valor) Award as voted on by the coaches. 2008: Played in 11 games … Slowed by pulled hamstring at start of his freshman season … Played primarily on special teams … Won "Hammer" award at end of season for most physical special teams play … Carried ball 24 times for 107 yards and caught two passes for 53 yards … Averaged 4.5 yards per rush … Returned 10 kicks for 223 yards … Made 11 tackles on special teams. 2007: Redshirted … Named Offensive Scout Player of the Year.
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Really, Dawginit? I think not. Martin runs a 4.48 or faster, and he will be a second round pick. And if he isn't? I bet the
Browns would dearly love for him to be there in the third round. I want him with the Browns.
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http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=70789&draftyear=2012&genpos=SS
Doug Martin, DS #5 RB, Boise State
Name: Doug Martin
College: Boise State Number: 22
Height: 5-09 Weight: 219
Position: RB Pos2: SS/ATH
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2012
40 Time: 4.48 40 Low: 4.38 40 High: 4.58
Projected Round: 2-3 Stock:
Rated number 5 out of 178 RB's 69 / 2749 TOTAL
Draft Scout Snapshot: 2010: Started each of the Broncos’ 13 games…named first-team All-Western Athletic Conference with 201 carries for 1,260 yards (6.26 per)…scored 12 touchdowns on the ground…also caught 28 passes for 338 yards and two touchdowns. 2009: Moved to the defensive side of the ball during spring drills after playing running back the past two seasons….Primarily played special teams and defense in the first three games, recording seven tackles and forcing one fumble…Moved back to running back following an injury to DJ Harper…Scored the winning touchdown of the 2010 Fiesta Bowl …Finished the season with the most rushing touchdowns of any Bronco (15)…Rushed for 765 yards on 129 carries…Also caught 8 passes for 68 yards…Finished the season with 16 tackles…Won the Denny Erickson (Valor) Award as voted on by the coaches. 2008: Played in 11 games … Slowed by pulled hamstring at start of his freshman season … Played primarily on special teams … Won "Hammer" award at end of season for most physical special teams play … Carried ball 24 times for 107 yards and caught two passes for 53 yards … Averaged 4.5 yards per rush … Returned 10 kicks for 223 yards … Made 11 tackles on special teams. 2007: Redshirted … Named Offensive Scout Player of the Year.
Really, Dawginit? I think not. Martin runs a 4.48 or faster, and he will be a second round pick. And if he isn't? I bet the
Browns would dearly love for him to be there in the third round. I want him with the Browns.
Note:
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http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=70789&draftyear=2012&genpos=SS
Doug Martin, DS #5 RB, Boise State
Name: Doug Martin
College: Boise State Number: 22
Height: 5-09 Weight: 219
Position: RB Pos2: SS/ATH
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2012
40 Time: 4.48 40 Low: 4.38 40 High: 4.58
Projected Round: 2-3 Stock:
Rated number 5 out of 178 RB's 69 / 2749 TOTAL
Draft Scout Snapshot: 2010: Started each of the Broncos’ 13 games…named first-team All-Western Athletic Conference with 201 carries for 1,260 yards (6.26 per)…scored 12 touchdowns on the ground…also caught 28 passes for 338 yards and two touchdowns. 2009: Moved to the defensive side of the ball during spring drills after playing running back the past two seasons….Primarily played special teams and defense in the first three games, recording seven tackles and forcing one fumble…Moved back to running back following an injury to DJ Harper…Scored the winning touchdown of the 2010 Fiesta Bowl …Finished the season with the most rushing touchdowns of any Bronco (15)…Rushed for 765 yards on 129 carries…Also caught 8 passes for 68 yards…Finished the season with 16 tackles…Won the Denny Erickson (Valor) Award as voted on by the coaches. 2008: Played in 11 games … Slowed by pulled hamstring at start of his freshman season … Played primarily on special teams … Won "Hammer" award at end of season for most physical special teams play … Carried ball 24 times for 107 yards and caught two passes for 53 yards … Averaged 4.5 yards per rush … Returned 10 kicks for 223 yards … Made 11 tackles on special teams. 2007: Redshirted … Named Offensive Scout Player of the Year.
Alright, I get my information from walterfootball and I must have misread it. It also says 4.48. I thought it was 4.58. By the way, Bernard Pierce is ranked 7th right behind Martin and runs a 4.51. I know it's against weaker competition but he ran for 1481 yards and 27 touchdowns.
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NW220: When you reference these players I suggest you put their position on front of their names. Some of us don't actually know all of them or what position they play.
Obviously Browns fans are going to tune into players at positions of need. If someone is a LT or C we know the Browns may have no real interest. But if they are a RT or RG or DE or whatever they need, we are more likely to pay attention to the evaluation of players at those positions.
There you go Gip i updated it for you
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By the way, Bernard Pierce is ranked 7th right behind Martin and runs a 4.51. I know it's against weaker competition but he ran for 1481 yards and 27 touchdowns.
Dawginit
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He's interesting - but the injuries are a bit concerning. A team could take a chance on him, and could end up with a
steal. Or, he might still end up with injuries or another concussion. Whatever the Browns do, I'm on board in trusting what they did.
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By the way, Bernard Pierce is ranked 7th right behind Martin and runs a 4.51. I know it's against weaker competition but he ran for 1481 yards and 27 touchdowns.
Dawginit
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He's interesting - but the injuries are a bit concerning. A team could take a chance on him, and could end up with a
steal. Or, he might still end up with injuries or another concussion. Whatever the Browns do, I'm on board in trusting what they did.
By the way, Bernard Pierce is ranked 7th right behind Martin and runs a 4.51. I know it's against weaker competition but he ran for 1481 yards and 27 touchdowns.
Dawginit
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He's interesting - but the injuries are a bit concerning. A team could take a chance on him, and could end up with a
steal. Or, he might still end up with injuries or another concussion. Whatever the Browns do, I'm on board in trusting what they did.
As long as we don't draft another Montario Hardesty then I will trust H&H.
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I'll be interested in watching Justin Blackmon vs. Michael Floyd vs. Kendall Wright.
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Agreed he isnt injury prone, and his frame looks like he could take hits at the next level...
Ya he's also projected to run around a 4.55-4.6. If we are trying to add speed then that is a terrible pick. Chris Rainy RB/WR/PR from Florida catches the ball great out of the backfield and runs near a 4.35.
Ya he's also projected to run around a 4.55-4.6. If we are trying to add speed then that is a terrible pick. Chris Rainy RB/WR/PR from Florida catches the ball great out of the backfield and runs near a 4.35.
Rainy is also only 180 at best. He is not a RB in the NFL. Richardson on the other hand has the size strength and SPEED to be a great NFL RB. He IS timed running a 4.4 40 and at worst he will run a 4.5. No where near these fake as stats you people seem to come up with off the top of your head.
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SI.com Tony Pauline reporting his opinion from senior bowl practice. So far Doug Martin seems to be looking pretty damn good.]
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/writers/tony_pauline/archive/
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