Play-Off Overtime Rules
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
HEre is the difference between you and me. I believe in doing the right thing, even if it means my family, friends or even I suffer because of it.
In your mind, as long as the Steelers lost, the rules were fine.
You lack of character and principle is direct testimony to why teh workd is getting more and more fucked up each day. You are all for fairness, unless it hinders you. This is Madoff thinking. This is Joe Paterno and Tressel thinking................. Hey, if its good for winning, its good for everyone.
This is CEO thinking to take $30 million bonuses when workers are being laid off.
Hey, it's the Steelers, right? Condemn Big Ben, but ignore that Jim Brown was tried for rape, TWICE.
Let me tell you something fuck-up, whenever ANY RULE favors one entity over another, it is a bullshit rule.
The NFL system of overtime has never been fair and this playoff system is even more flawed.
Both teams deserve a chance at the football. No need to even comment because there is no rebuttal.
You are an asshole. The justification you have for supporting this rule is that it went against a team you hate. When it goes against the Browns, you will hate it. Fortunately for you, the Browns are not likely to win many games or be competitive in many so you won't have to worried about even seeing the Browns in overtime.
The Steelers got screwed.
I don't think the Steelers got screwed. Not by the rules anyway. (they screwed themselves by playing poor defense on that "drive"). You play the game with the framework of the rules and you live with it.
Under the OT rules that were in place for the last nearly 40 years, the Steelers would have lost that game. Under the new rules that were in place for just this year, the Steelers did lose that game. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Steelers.
I don't mind the new rule, if that is going to be the rule.
Like I said before, I do NOT think there should be different rules for the playoffs than for the regular season. If you don't want sudden death on the first possession of an OT by a FG, fine. Implement that for the entire season.
I bet that when the Competition committee meets next that is just what they do.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
HEre is the difference between you and me. I believe in doing the right thing, even if it means my family, friends or even I suffer because of it.
In your mind, as long as the Steelers lost, the rules were fine.
You lack of character and principle is direct testimony to why teh workd is getting more and more fucked up each day. You are all for fairness, unless it hinders you. This is Madoff thinking. This is Joe Paterno and Tressel thinking................. Hey, if its good for winning, its good for everyone.
This is CEO thinking to take $30 million bonuses when workers are being laid off.
Hey, it's the Steelers, right? Condemn Big Ben, but ignore that Jim Brown was tried for rape, TWICE.
Let me tell you something fuck-up, whenever ANY RULE favors one entity over another, it is a bullshit rule.
The NFL system of overtime has never been fair and this playoff system is even more flawed.
Both teams deserve a chance at the football. No need to even comment because there is no rebuttal.
You are an asshole. The justification you have for supporting this rule is that it went against a team you hate. When it goes against the Browns, you will hate it. Fortunately for you, the Browns are not likely to win many games or be competitive in many so you won't have to worried about even seeing the Browns in overtime.
The Steelers got screwed.
Blah Blah Blah. I liked the new rules as soon as they were implemented 2 years ago. My opinions have nothing to do with the steelers or any other team. But if you honestly think the new rules make it easier for the receiving team to win the game, you clearly still don't understand the rules. Why don't you read them sometime instead of ranting about random shit that has nothing to do with this thread?
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I really don't get why the NFL doesn't just use the college rules regarding overtime. The only thing I would change about the college rules is move the ball back to either the 50 or to the 20 of the team in possession of the ball. How can you not like colleges overtime rules? It's fair, compelling and most importantly entertaining. Isn't that everything you look for in a football game?
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I really don't get why the NFL doesn't just use the college rules regarding overtime. The only thing I would change about the college rules is move the ball back to either the 50 or to the 20 of the team in possession of the ball. How can you not like colleges overtime rules? It's fair, compelling and most importantly entertaining. Isn't that everything you look for in a football game?
I really don't get why the NFL doesn't just use the college rules regarding overtime. The only thing I would change about the college rules is move the ball back to either the 50 or to the 20 of the team in possession of the ball. How can you not like colleges overtime rules? It's fair, compelling and most importantly entertaining. Isn't that everything you look for in a football game?
The college rules are the biggest abomination in sports. Nobody in their right fucking mind would ever use those rules.
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I really don't get why the NFL doesn't just use the college rules regarding overtime. The only thing I would change about the college rules is move the ball back to either the 50 or to the 20 of the team in possession of the ball. How can you not like colleges overtime rules? It's fair, compelling and most importantly entertaining. Isn't that everything you look for in a football game?
The college rules are the biggest abomination in sports. Nobody in their right fucking mind would ever use those rules.
The college rules are the biggest abomination in sports. Nobody in their right fucking mind would ever use those rules.
Do you mind telling me why your so staunchly opposed to the college OT rules? I get that you don't like it but you haven't really provided the logic of how you've arrived at this belief or at least not in this thread. I do agree with you that OT rules need to be same in the regular and post seasons.
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The college rules are the biggest abomination in sports. Nobody in their right fucking mind would ever use those rules.
Do you mind telling me why your so staunchly opposed to the college OT rules? I get that you don't like it but you haven't really provided the logic of how you've arrived at this belief or at least not in this thread. I do agree with you that OT rules need to be same in the regular and post seasons.
Do you mind telling me why your so staunchly opposed to the college OT rules? I get that you don't like it but you haven't really provided the logic of how you've arrived at this belief or at least not in this thread. I do agree with you that OT rules need to be same in the regular and post seasons.
The reasons I am against the college rules are voluminous. First off, it is not football. It is a bastardization of football. It takes away ALL special teams play except the field goal.
It is complete an utter horsheshit.
It is like deciding a baseball game by not playing baseball, but by having a home run derby contest.
It would be like deciding a basketball game by having a three point,or foul shot shooting contest.
You are not playing the game.
It is like these shootouts they have in certain hockey games or soccer. It is a joke.
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I understand your position from a baseball and basketball stand point. But like the overtime rules for baseball and basketball the first one to score doesn't automatically win. I would be fine with just playing a 15 minute overtime period but the sudden death rule would have to be done away with. As far as soccer and hockey are concerned they don't have much in common with the other popular sports due to their scoring methods. Shootouts are necessary to prevent ties which is why you see shootouts in playoff/tournament formats. Im pretty sure hockey goes to shootouts in the regular season now but that's more to bring interest to the game then in the interest of fairness (although the points system evens it out). As far as the NFL goes they either need to go to a 15 minute period without sudden death and continue playing until someone wins (no ties) or go to the college system (where there are no ties). Their problem is that the 15 minute period without sudden death takes away excitement and the college system runs into problems with the fundamental properties of the game itself so instead of making a tough call they prefer to create convoluted rules in the interest of placating all parties involved but in the end, end up pissing off all said parties. Bottom line the NFL needs to decide between those two options stated above and stick with it. Those are the only two options that they can realistically pick while being able to say their overtime rules are fair to both teams.
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I understand your position from a baseball and basketball stand point. But like the overtime rules for baseball and basketball the first one to score doesn't automatically win. I would be fine with just playing a 15 minute overtime period but the sudden death rule would have to be done away with. As far as soccer and hockey are concerned they don't have much in common with the other popular sports due to their scoring methods. Shootouts are necessary to prevent ties which is why you see shootouts in playoff/tournament formats. Im pretty sure hockey goes to shootouts in the regular season now but that's more to bring interest to the game then in the interest of fairness (although the points system evens it out). As far as the NFL goes they either need to go to a 15 minute period without sudden death and continue playing until someone wins (no ties) or go to the college system (where there are no ties). Their problem is that the 15 minute period without sudden death takes away excitement and the college system runs into problems with the fundamental properties of the game itself so instead of making a tough call they prefer to create convoluted rules in the interest of placating all parties involved but in the end, end up pissing off all said parties. Bottom line the NFL needs to decide between those two options stated above and stick with it. Those are the only two options that they can realistically pick while being able to say their overtime rules are fair to both teams.
As far as the NFL goes they either need to go to a 15 minute period without sudden death and continue playing until someone wins (no ties) or go to the college system (where there are no ties).
The losing team is going to be unhappy no matter what the rules are. You can't just keep adding extra quarters to football games unless you want to see both teams decimated by injuries..
Gipper already explained why the college system blows.
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I understand your position from a baseball and basketball stand point. But like the overtime rules for baseball and basketball the first one to score doesn't automatically win. I would be fine with just playing a 15 minute overtime period but the sudden death rule would have to be done away with. As far as soccer and hockey are concerned they don't have much in common with the other popular sports due to their scoring methods. Shootouts are necessary to prevent ties which is why you see shootouts in playoff/tournament formats. Im pretty sure hockey goes to shootouts in the regular season now but that's more to bring interest to the game then in the interest of fairness (although the points system evens it out). As far as the NFL goes they either need to go to a 15 minute period without sudden death and continue playing until someone wins (no ties) or go to the college system (where there are no ties). Their problem is that the 15 minute period without sudden death takes away excitement and the college system runs into problems with the fundamental properties of the game itself so instead of making a tough call they prefer to create convoluted rules in the interest of placating all parties involved but in the end, end up pissing off all said parties. Bottom line the NFL needs to decide between those two options stated above and stick with it. Those are the only two options that they can realistically pick while being able to say their overtime rules are fair to both teams.
I understand your position from a baseball and basketball stand point. But like the overtime rules for baseball and basketball the first one to score doesn't automatically win. I would be fine with just playing a 15 minute overtime period but the sudden death rule would have to be done away with. As far as soccer and hockey are concerned they don't have much in common with the other popular sports due to their scoring methods. Shootouts are necessary to prevent ties which is why you see shootouts in playoff/tournament formats. Im pretty sure hockey goes to shootouts in the regular season now but that's more to bring interest to the game then in the interest of fairness (although the points system evens it out). As far as the NFL goes they either need to go to a 15 minute period without sudden death and continue playing until someone wins (no ties) or go to the college system (where there are no ties). Their problem is that the 15 minute period without sudden death takes away excitement and the college system runs into problems with the fundamental properties of the game itself so instead of making a tough call they prefer to create convoluted rules in the interest of placating all parties involved but in the end, end up pissing off all said parties. Bottom line the NFL needs to decide between those two options stated above and stick with it. Those are the only two options that they can realistically pick while being able to say their overtime rules are fair to both teams.
My point about OT is that I want teams to play the game....not some bastardized, pussified version of the game.....that goes for football, hockey, basketball, whatever. The college system is a bastardized, pussifies version of football. Play fucking football.
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Zombo said:
Instead of sudden death, they should just play a fifth quarter. And in the playoffs, it becomes sudden death only after time expires in the fifth quarter.
Don't change the game or the normal rules ... last man standing.
Z
That would probably be OK....though it would not bother me if they played a reduced period, say a 10 minute OT period. That way the teams would feel more of an expediancy to score in OT...but also not just settle for FGs. Then Sudden Death if still tied.
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