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Zombo said:
You don't HAVE to give him anything.
That's what the Quinn Apologists and the Frye Apologists said ... and my how their careers blossomed once they left Cleveland.
You only have one year in the system invested in McCoy, if they see someone with better tools and a higher ceiling that is available then by all means grab him, we don't owe Colt anything. It's a Big Boy league. Colt is a late third round pick that has played like a late third round pick, if there is a better QB out there for the Cleveland Browns, then by all means grab him.
All the off-seasons in the world aren't going to make him taller or his arm much stronger, they have to decide if has the tools to win with or not instead of wasting another year trying to find out.
Make a gut call and move on.
Zombo
This is absolutely the perfect response to the Colt problem. It's today's NFL, you show the tools to succeed now and not later. We don't owe him anything, he's had 22 ish starts now to prove he's got it. Stop marring his ability on everything else. A QB in the NFL either has it or he doesn't.
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Zombo said:
You don't HAVE to give him anything.
That's what the Quinn Apologists and the Frye Apologists said ... and my how their careers blossomed once they left Cleveland.
You only have one year in the system invested in McCoy, if they see someone with better tools and a higher ceiling that is available then by all means grab him, we don't owe Colt anything. It's a Big Boy league. Colt is a late third round pick that has played like a late third round pick, if there is a better QB out there for the Cleveland Browns, then by all means grab him.
All the off-seasons in the world aren't going to make him taller or his arm much stronger, they have to decide if has the tools to win with or not instead of wasting another year trying to find out.
Make a gut call and move on.
Zombo
This is absolutely the perfect response to the Colt problem. It's today's NFL, you show the tools to succeed now and not later. We don't owe him anything, he's had 22 ish starts now to prove he's got it. Stop marring his ability on everything else. A QB in the NFL either has it or he doesn't.
This is absolutely the perfect response to the Colt problem. It's today's NFL, you show the tools to succeed now and not later. We don't owe him anything, he's had 22 ish starts now to prove he's got it. Stop marring his ability on everything else. A QB in the NFL either has it or he doesn't.
If that's the case, who's our guy? I'm not sold on RG3.
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I'm not done with Colt either. Dude has given 110% every play. If you look at his numbers they aren't that good. Know why? Our garbage WR's cant catch a cold!!! He puts the ball on thier numbers and they can't catch the damn ball. I'm not sure if he is our franchise QB, but I think we need more games with more talent to see. RG3 has talent, but so did every other QB we drafted. Can't expect to win if we have players for 2 years and cut/trade them.
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a lot of people here are under the assumption that we're a QB away from the super bowl and ignore the fact that we picked a QB two years ago that has done everything the team has asked him to do with shit players all around him. he did fine in 2010 when hillis was healthy and running the ball and had an offense he understood.
hell anderson and quinn sucked ass, so has every qb we've had since '99 but does anyone ever look at the team? no, peyton manning will not bring us to the superbowl next year. neither will RGlll.
fix the TEAM then get the qb if colt is not the answer. you can hardly say what happened last year is colt mccoy's fault.
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a lot of people here are under the assumption that we're a QB away from the super bowl and ignore the fact that we picked a QB two years ago that has done everything the team has asked him to do with shit players all around him. he did fine in 2010 when hillis was healthy and running the ball and had an offense he understood.
hell anderson and quinn sucked ass, so has every qb we've had since '99 but does anyone ever look at the team? no, peyton manning will not bring us to the superbowl next year. neither will RGlll.
fix the TEAM then get the qb if colt is not the answer. you can hardly say what happened last year is colt mccoy's fault.
a lot of people here are under the assumption that we're a QB away from the super bowl and ignore the fact that we picked a QB two years ago that has done everything the team has asked him to do with shit players all around him. he did fine in 2010 when hillis was healthy and running the ball and had an offense he understood.
hell anderson and quinn sucked ass, so has every qb we've had since '99 but does anyone ever look at the team? no, peyton manning will not bring us to the superbowl next year. neither will RGlll.
fix the TEAM then get the qb if colt is not the answer. you can hardly say what happened last year is colt mccoy's fault.
Well, I can't sit here and argue that Colt didn't have much of anything to work with. But look at the franchise guys around the league, the Brees, Mannings, Bradys of the world. They made those guys better around them. Let me put it to this way: if Jimmy Graham comes onto this team same as was the case in New Orleans, do you see him as a viable threat in the offense? I would dare to say that the franchise guys often do not get top notch, 1st round talent at the skill positions. The steelers show this perfectly. Not a single skill position outside of Mendenhall is a first round talent. Ben makes them better. The Patriots? the same exact position, with Welker AND Green-Ellis undrafted guys (granted Welker wasn't a pats guy i get that). The Giants? Nicks is a first rounder but guess what? All the other starting skill positions aren't first round picks. I think it's fair to see across the league that franchise all pro QB's make their players better and don't need first round talent all around to succeed. I'm all but certain this is the case for the saints and packers as well.
Now, I think a more fair argument is that the offensive system let Colt down. That shitty attempt at the WCO last year was downright dreadful. I think anyone would be limited by the fact that we pretty much handed the playbook over to the defense before the game. But still, a true franchise guy shows himself. And flat out you don't win in today's NFL without a light up the scoreboard franchise guy.
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This is absolutely the perfect response to the Colt problem. It's today's NFL, you show the tools to succeed now and not later. We don't owe him anything, he's had 22 ish starts now to prove he's got it. Stop marring his ability on everything else. A QB in the NFL either has it or he doesn't.
If that's the case, who's our guy? I'm not sold on RG3.
If that's the case, who's our guy? I'm not sold on RG3.
Well, I really do like RGIII. I've been watching more of his actual game film and based on my lowly, extremely uninformed opinion he just strikes me as a guy who's going to come in and do amazing things at the next level. It's too early to really say though.
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Baloney. Let's see what Colt can do with a complete offensive team personel. Tom Brady started out playing like a SIXTH round draft pick. They should have dumped him, and drafted somebody better...
I tell you, there is no way RGIII would start his rookie year over Colt.
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Professional career
2000 season
Brady was selected with pick #199, a compensatory pick, in the sixth round of the 2000 NFL Draft. According to Michael Holley's book Patriot Reign, the Patriots were considering Brady and Tim Rattay, both of whom had received positive reviews from then-quarterbacks coach Dick Rehbein. Ultimately, the Patriots front office chose Brady. Ironically, even though the Patriots drafted a future superstar in the next to last round, the class of 2000 was a mediocre vintage for quarterbacks. Brady, Chad Pennington and Marc Bulger were the only ones to see success at the NFL level.
The Patriots made the unusual decision to carry four quarterbacks (instead of three) on the roster. Brady started the season as the fourth string quarterback, behind starter Drew Bledsoe and backups John Friesz and Michael Bishop; by season's end, he was number two on the depth chart behind Bledsoe. During his rookie season, he was 1-of-3 passing, for six yards.
2001 season
The Patriots opened the season with a 23β17 loss at Cincinnati, with Bledsoe as the starting quarterback. Their second game, and home opener, on September 23, was against their AFC East rival, the New York Jets. Bledsoe was again the starter, when in the fourth quarter he suffered internal bleeding after a hit from Jets linebacker Mo Lewis. Bledsoe returned for the next series, but was replaced with Brady for the Patriots' final series of the game. New York would hold on to win, 10β3, and the Patriots fell to 0β2 on the season.[23]
Brady was named the starter for the season's third game, against the Indianapolis Colts. In his first two games as starter, Brady posted unspectacular passer ratings of 79.6 and 58.7, respectively, in a 44β13 victory over the Colts (in their last season in the AFC East) and a 30β10 loss to the Miami Dolphins.[24]
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Chickenwang said:
You stick any QB in our anemic offense and they will look the same. This has nothing to do with Colt
I was starting to think I was the only one that realized this. RGIII is not the answer. Is Colt? I don't know. There's no way I could. Give him some talent to work with at RB and WR and for God's sake keep him off his ass and you'll be suprised what he could do. Hopefully the Browns will have a healthy running game this year so Colt doesn't have to throw 30 times a game. Also, a deep threat will open up the underneath routes that continually were jammed up and stuffed last year because of the lack of threat our receivers posed to defenses.
I was starting to think I was the only one that realized this. RGIII is not the answer. Is Colt? I don't know. There's no way I could. Give him some talent to work with at RB and WR and for God's sake keep him off his ass and you'll be suprised what he could do. Hopefully the Browns will have a healthy running game this year so Colt doesn't have to throw 30 times a game. Also, a deep threat will open up the underneath routes that continually were jammed up and stuffed last year because of the lack of threat our receivers posed to defenses.
There ya go! Colt needs tools & a full training camp WITH Coaches. THEN we'll see more of what he can do. I am not ready to give up on him yet.
As far as RG3, I don't get folks wanting to spend the 4th pick in the draft (or even trade up) on a PROJECT!! His college competition was suspect & he played in a simplified offense & NOT under center. He certainly is NOT NFL ready. To me, the 4th pick needs to start & contribute NOW. I don't see that happening, but that's just my opinion.
Mike
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Baloney. Let's see what Colt can do with a complete offensive team personel. Tom Brady started out playing like a SIXTH round draft pick. They should have dumped him, and drafted somebody better...
I tell you, there is no way RGIII would start his rookie year over Colt.
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Professional career
2000 season
Brady was selected with pick #199, a compensatory pick, in the sixth round of the 2000 NFL Draft. According to Michael Holley's book Patriot Reign, the Patriots were considering Brady and Tim Rattay, both of whom had received positive reviews from then-quarterbacks coach Dick Rehbein. Ultimately, the Patriots front office chose Brady. Ironically, even though the Patriots drafted a future superstar in the next to last round, the class of 2000 was a mediocre vintage for quarterbacks. Brady, Chad Pennington and Marc Bulger were the only ones to see success at the NFL level.
The Patriots made the unusual decision to carry four quarterbacks (instead of three) on the roster. Brady started the season as the fourth string quarterback, behind starter Drew Bledsoe and backups John Friesz and Michael Bishop; by season's end, he was number two on the depth chart behind Bledsoe. During his rookie season, he was 1-of-3 passing, for six yards.
2001 season
The Patriots opened the season with a 23β17 loss at Cincinnati, with Bledsoe as the starting quarterback. Their second game, and home opener, on September 23, was against their AFC East rival, the New York Jets. Bledsoe was again the starter, when in the fourth quarter he suffered internal bleeding after a hit from Jets linebacker Mo Lewis. Bledsoe returned for the next series, but was replaced with Brady for the Patriots' final series of the game. New York would hold on to win, 10β3, and the Patriots fell to 0β2 on the season.[23]
Brady was named the starter for the season's third game, against the Indianapolis Colts. In his first two games as starter, Brady posted unspectacular passer ratings of 79.6 and 58.7, respectively, in a 44β13 victory over the Colts (in their last season in the AFC East) and a 30β10 loss to the Miami Dolphins.[24]
Baloney. Let's see what Colt can do with a complete offensive team personel. Tom Brady started out playing like a SIXTH round draft pick. They should have dumped him, and drafted somebody better...
I tell you, there is no way RGIII would start his rookie year over Colt.
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Professional career
2000 season
Brady was selected with pick #199, a compensatory pick, in the sixth round of the 2000 NFL Draft. According to Michael Holley's book Patriot Reign, the Patriots were considering Brady and Tim Rattay, both of whom had received positive reviews from then-quarterbacks coach Dick Rehbein. Ultimately, the Patriots front office chose Brady. Ironically, even though the Patriots drafted a future superstar in the next to last round, the class of 2000 was a mediocre vintage for quarterbacks. Brady, Chad Pennington and Marc Bulger were the only ones to see success at the NFL level.
The Patriots made the unusual decision to carry four quarterbacks (instead of three) on the roster. Brady started the season as the fourth string quarterback, behind starter Drew Bledsoe and backups John Friesz and Michael Bishop; by season's end, he was number two on the depth chart behind Bledsoe. During his rookie season, he was 1-of-3 passing, for six yards.
2001 season
The Patriots opened the season with a 23β17 loss at Cincinnati, with Bledsoe as the starting quarterback. Their second game, and home opener, on September 23, was against their AFC East rival, the New York Jets. Bledsoe was again the starter, when in the fourth quarter he suffered internal bleeding after a hit from Jets linebacker Mo Lewis. Bledsoe returned for the next series, but was replaced with Brady for the Patriots' final series of the game. New York would hold on to win, 10β3, and the Patriots fell to 0β2 on the season.[23]
Brady was named the starter for the season's third game, against the Indianapolis Colts. In his first two games as starter, Brady posted unspectacular passer ratings of 79.6 and 58.7, respectively, in a 44β13 victory over the Colts (in their last season in the AFC East) and a 30β10 loss to the Miami Dolphins.[24]
Ya and in his second season he finished with good TD to INT ratio for a 1st year starting QB and led his team to the playoffs. Brady's second year is far better than Colt's and he gave his team reason to believe he was a good starting QB. Colt hasn't done that. Do the Browns need to draft a new QB to take over... I don't know. But comparing his second season to Colts is ridiculous.
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Sure, and Brady had a better team around him his rookie year and his second year.
In 2001, the Patriots offense looked like the Patriots always paid serious attention to drafting
offensive linemen.
Colt has no chance to show what he can do, no qb can show what he can do, without bookend tackles.
The Patriots had been building their offense well before Brady ever got into the NFL.
Brady became a starter with fast wr's, one a 1st round pick veteran, drafted by the Pats... 2 rb's in the 1st and 2nd rounds (2nd round by the Pats)...a TE in the 2nd round by the Pats..... a LT in the 2nd round by the Pats...a C from the 1st round by the Pats... and a RIGHT TACKLE drafted in the 4th round BY THE PATRIOTS.
Colt doesn't have the RT, or the RB, and only Little as a fast wr. Colt doesn't have any kind of equal chance to be successful - no qb could.
The failure of the Browns to solidify the RT position has killed their offense.
You give Colt Richardson or Martin... and another BURNER, outstanding wr, and a solid RT...
and a dependable RB... then judge him on whether or not he excels.
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Zombo said:
You don't HAVE to give him anything.
That's what the Quinn Apologists and the Frye Apologists said ... and my how their careers blossomed once they left Cleveland.
You only have one year in the system invested in McCoy, if they see someone with better tools and a higher ceiling that is available then by all means grab him, we don't owe Colt anything. It's a Big Boy league. Colt is a late third round pick that has played like a late third round pick, if there is a better QB out there for the Cleveland Browns, then by all means grab him.
All the off-seasons in the world aren't going to make him taller or his arm much stronger, they have to decide if has the tools to win with or not instead of wasting another year trying to find out.
Make a gut call and move on.
Zombo
First down and 10: McCoy is under center and takes snap with a planned 3 yard drop. After 2 steps he has to duck and fling it into the stands or get creamed.
2nd down and 10: (Hillis is sick with strep throat, or a bad hammie or is on the rag or something) McCoy hands to Hardesty or Ooglyboogly up the middle for 2 yards.
3rd down and 8: Browns send two receivers out (Robiskie and Mass) that are cover by 5 defenders and McCoy incompletes a pass to uh uh uh nobody.
Our O-line is great. Our RB's are great. Our WR's are great. Our play calling is great. Our QB sucks. i wish he was two inches taller.
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baloney. if the qb makes the receivers, then why does any team every draft them?
'Just sign some undrafted FA's, who are slow, don't like football, and let the qb
make them all pro?
Meanwhile, there has been plenty of questions about whether or not Eli was a bust back
in the earlier years, Zombo. Eli came into the league in 2004.
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Who is the cardinals QB? The reason I ask is because I don't know and they have one of the best, if not the best WR in the leauge in Fitzgerald. Zombo is right. QB's make WR not the other way around. Look at Tom Brady. He wasn't throwing to elite WR early in his career yet he still won how many Super Bowls? When Randy Moss came in why do you think he set career and NFL records? Its because he was extremely talented and he had one of the best QB's in the leauge throwing to him. Look Colt is a nice guy but if you see a more talented option then you take it.
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Zombo said:
Our offensive line ranked better than the Giants, who are playing this week.
http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol
New England played three different running backs, none of whom rushed for more than 667 yards ... playing this week.
As seen everywhere else, the QB makes the receivers, and we will probably be starting two really good young ones this year ...
Let's quit making excuses and get a real quarterback, McFrye.
Zombo
I don't really care who we have at QB next year but the OL statistics you show have the giants 6th for pass blocking. The Browns were 16th. I realize that stats never give you the whole picture, but that's a huge difference in favor of the Giants..
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Zombo said:
I see the same people that went down with the ship with Frye and Quinn clinging onto Colt because he's a good guy and they want him to get "a real chance".
Give me an asshole that wins football games.
Zombo
OK, I'm not totally sold on the idea we draft Blackmon and give Colt another year to see if he "gets it". We don't have a #1 overall invested in him like the 49ers did in Alex Smith. To me Colt's biggest flaw is taking too long to make a decision what to do with the ball.
I do like RG IIIs skill set, but I DO NOT want the Browns donating the extra 1st round pick to the Rams to move up and get him. We have too many holes on the team to do stuff like that.
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franchise QBs? sam bradford. every highlight i've seen of him last year was him getting knocked on his ass. the wonder boy josh freeman who took the nfl by storm in his first year, looked like he had been beat up by tyson after every game last year and stunk up the joint. hell it's not their fault. no OL protection. no receivers getting open.
are those guys better than colt mccoy? did they have better receivers or 'were they supposed to make them better?"
TDS 6 INT 6 YDS 2,164 RTG 70.5 bradford 1st round pick (1) notable receivers on IR most of the year but brandon lloyd is better than any one on our team and don't forget about steven jackson. they finished worse than us at 2-14.
TDS 16 INT 22 YDS 3,592 RTG 74.6 freeman 1sr round pick (17) legarette blount is a beast rb. receivers are not much better than ours. finished with the same record as us 4-12.
TDS 14 INT 11 YDS 2,733 RTG 74.6 mccoy 3rd round pick (21) greg little. that's it. finished at 4-12.
all these guys have talent and could be good if not great with a TEAM around them. years ago matt ryan walked into a team ready to make a run. this year same goes for andy dalton. those teams have put all the necessary pieces of the puzzle together which took years BUT they didn't throw away picks on positions that are already filled with capable player.
oh BUT WAIT if we get a franchise qb he'll make the whole team better!
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This is just funny!
So if someone gives 110% but still sucks donkey dick as a QB... many think we should still keep him? What kind of Cleveland logic is this?
The guy sucks...
I would love to be a top musician making millions... I gave it 20 years of hard work and traveled the USA playing in bands.....so if your logic is correct...
they should just say I wanted it bad enough and I gave it my all.... so just show me the money....
Do any of you colt lovers know anything about life... let alone football...?
Come on..... he just doesn't have franchise star ability!
Why shouldn't we want the best QB available.... instead of settling for someone who gave it 110% but SUCKS!!!!!
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This is just funny!
So if someone gives 110% but still sucks donkey dick as a QB... many think we should still keep him? What kind of Cleveland logic is this?
The guy sucks...
I would love to be a top musician making millions... I gave it 20 years of hard work and traveled the USA playing in bands.....so if your logic is correct...
they should just say I wanted it bad enough and I gave it my all.... so just show me the money....
Do any of you colt lovers know anything about life... let alone football...?
Come on..... he just doesn't have franchise star ability!
Why shouldn't we want the best QB available.... instead of settling for someone who gave it 110% but SUCKS!!!!!
This is just funny!
So if someone gives 110% but still sucks donkey dick as a QB... many think we should still keep him? What kind of Cleveland logic is this?
The guy sucks...
I would love to be a top musician making millions... I gave it 20 years of hard work and traveled the USA playing in bands.....so if your logic is correct...
they should just say I wanted it bad enough and I gave it my all.... so just show me the money....
Do any of you colt lovers know anything about life... let alone football...?
Come on..... he just doesn't have franchise star ability!
Why shouldn't we want the best QB available.... instead of settling for someone who gave it 110% but SUCKS!!!!!
There's a best QB available every year, and many of them are greater than the best QB available this year.
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This is just funny!
So if someone gives 110% but still sucks donkey dick as a QB... many think we should still keep him? What kind of Cleveland logic is this?
The guy sucks...
I would love to be a top musician making millions... I gave it 20 years of hard work and traveled the USA playing in bands.....so if your logic is correct...
they should just say I wanted it bad enough and I gave it my all.... so just show me the money....
Do any of you colt lovers know anything about life... let alone football...?
Come on..... he just doesn't have franchise star ability!
Why shouldn't we want the best QB available.... instead of settling for someone who gave it 110% but SUCKS!!!!!
I would love to be a top musician making millions... I gave it 20 years of hard work and traveled the USA playing in bands.....so if your logic is correct...
they should just say I wanted it bad enough and I gave it my all.... so just show me the money....
Do any of you colt lovers know anything about life... let alone football...?
yeah and you had the suckiest background musicians in your band, right? pleez.
i'm not saying he's the second coming of joe montana or dan marino, but this ring around the rosie shit this team does with it's personnel and coaching staff is ridiulous just because some browns fans want to win now, wah!!!
what's another year for evaluation given the right test parameters? give him a #1 wr with some speed and hands, give him some protection on the right side (the side he scrambles to) give him a running game, then see. you've gotta agree he had none of those last year. and if i could find it i bet i could pull up posts from all you mccoy haters (now) from his rookie year of you guys saying just the opposite shit that you're spouting now.
we've got a chance to really fill in our defense and make it one of the best with enough picks left over to get OL help and a #1 wr, why not use this opportunity?
are you saying that mccoy is at fault for last year? are you saying we're one qb away from making the playoffs or the super bowl? if we draft another qb how many years do we give him until you want him gone?
dude, we'll be lucky to make it to 8-8 next year even with the upgrades i mentioned.
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This is just funny!
So if someone gives 110% but still sucks donkey dick as a QB... many think we should still keep him? What kind of Cleveland logic is this?
The guy sucks...
I would love to be a top musician making millions... I gave it 20 years of hard work and traveled the USA playing in bands.....so if your logic is correct...
they should just say I wanted it bad enough and I gave it my all.... so just show me the money....
Do any of you colt lovers know anything about life... let alone football...?
Come on..... he just doesn't have franchise star ability!
Why shouldn't we want the best QB available.... instead of settling for someone who gave it 110% but SUCKS!!!!!
This is just funny!
So if someone gives 110% but still sucks donkey dick as a QB... many think we should still keep him? What kind of Cleveland logic is this?
The guy sucks...
I would love to be a top musician making millions... I gave it 20 years of hard work and traveled the USA playing in bands.....so if your logic is correct...
they should just say I wanted it bad enough and I gave it my all.... so just show me the money....
Do any of you colt lovers know anything about life... let alone football...?
Come on..... he just doesn't have franchise star ability!
Why shouldn't we want the best QB available.... instead of settling for someone who gave it 110% but SUCKS!!!!!
your musician analogy is Retarded
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