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    cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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    Kid rock?

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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      ^ Good choice...

      Being the father of one of those "15 yo's 20 years ago", I had high hopes for Madonna, but when the highlight of your show is your entrance... 😳

      To pull off a performance in a SB halftime show the #1 priority is sustained energy...

      Madonna entered with it...

      Madonna closed with it...

      But the middle sagged like a pair of 53-yo boobs...

      "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        I'm a fan and player, so be embarrassed

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          2013 superbowl: NWA reunion.

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            2 Live Crew!

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            • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

              I'm a fan and player, so be embarrassed

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              @mld-woody said:

              I'm a fan and player, so be embarrassed

              I'm embarrassed for you that you'd mention it here.

              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                I'm not

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  I really don't understand why Green Day hasn't had a halftime show. They're not my favorite band by any means, but old people know enough to have heard of them, Armstrong's voice isn't shot (like say, everyone in the Who), and they're pretty damn popular in younger generations. Who the fuck wants to listen to a pop star in the twilight of her career while watching a football game?

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @vaportrail said:

                  I really don't understand why Green Day hasn't had a halftime show. They're not my favorite band by any means, but old people know enough to have heard of them, Armstrong's voice isn't shot (like say, everyone in the Who), and they're pretty damn popular in younger generations. Who the fuck wants to listen to a pop star in the twilight of her career while watching a football game?

                  People here are so uninformed.

                  This is the SUPERBOWL...and for its halftime show it is going for SUPERSTARS.

                  That is why you see the headliners being.....The Who. The Rolling Stones. Bruce Springsteen. Madonna. Paul McCartney.

                  It isn't the mediocre Bowl, and they are not going for mediocre stars.

                  They can bring in supporting groups like Ce Lo Green or whomever..

                  but the Headliner, now, is going to be a well established persona...and likely a Rock n Roll Hall of Fame act.

                  Here is something all y'all might like to consider. Until 1990, the top name acts that appeared at the halftime show of the Super Bowl included the following:

                  Up With People....5 times

                  Carol Channing

                  Andy Williams

                  Disney's "Its a Small World"

                  Ella Fitzgerald

                  Al Hirt

                  Mickey Rooney

                  George Burns

                  Pete Fountain

                  The Rockettes.

                  Chubby Checker

                  and various College bands.

                  At that time, they started "getting hip". They starting booking acts like:

                  1991: New Kids on the Block

                  1992: Gloria Estafan

                  1993:Michael Jackson

                  1994: Country stars Tanya Tucker, Clint Black, The Judds

                  1995: Patti LaBelle and Teddy Pendergrast

                  1996: Diana Ross

                  1997:The Blues Brothers (post Belushi)

                  1998: Motown acts Smokey Robinson, The Temptaions, Martha Reeves

                  1999: Chaka Khan, Stevie Wonder, Kiss

                  2000: Phil Collins and Christina Aguilera

                  2001: Aerosmith, N'Sync, Britney Spears, Mary J. Blige and Nelly

                  2002: U2

                  2003: Shania Twain, No Doubt, Sting

                  Then came the "wardrobe" malfunction year of 2004 when they had big stars Janet Jackson and he boobs and Justin Timberlake. The SuperBowl committee obviously decided they had come too far with the attempt to appeal to the "new,hip" kids. Besides, the rating were not as good. So, what did they do? They decided they no longer needed "B" class stars. They needed Superstars. The best that ever was, and ones that wouldn't be controversial. So, you got:

                  2005: Paul McCartney

                  2006: The Rolling Stones

                  2007: Prince

                  2008: Tom Petty

                  2009: Bruce Springsteen

                  2010: The Who

                  2011: They decided to once again go current with Blackeyed Peas and Usher, it went OK.

                  2012: They decided to mix it up: old school: Madonna. Newer school: Celo Green, Nikki Minaj

                  But they also included this performer called "M.I.A." who first gave the finger on stage, then used "shit" in her language.

                  So, for all of you claiming that you want newer acts....this "M.I.A." just screwed that up for you. Because of he BS, you can now expect another diet of all time...but older greats.

                  How do you like this fare for future lineups, if some of them live that long:

                  Bob Dylan

                  Tina Turner

                  Van Morrison

                  Elton John (he did a commercial for yesterday, why not the show?)

                  Rod Stewart

                  Neil Young

                  David Bowie

                  Joni Mitchell

                  The Eagles

                  Fleetwood Mac

                  Santana

                  Billy Joel

                  James Taylor

                  Aerosmith

                  Paul Simon

                  Elvis Costello

                  Bob Seger

                  The Pretenders

                  R.E.M

                  John Mellencamp

                  Neil Diamond

                  Guns n Roses

                  Red Hot Chili Peppers

                  So, be glad with these.... and STFU or maybe the Super Bowl will bring back Up With People and Andy Williams types...(you want Michael Buble?)

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    Great... love catering to the baby boomers

                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      Whoa gip, green day is as big as the black eyed peas. Bigger even. I have no idea why you would shit on green day doing the halftime show and then suggest joni mitchell, Neil diamond, the pretenders, Elvis costello or van morrisson.

                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                        slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by
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                        Madonna is sooo fine. Hottest 53 yo i know of. best thing to come out of Michigan EVER.

                        i'd drink her effin bath water.

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                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                          black eyed peas suck. as a matter of fact there isn't one or two bands that i WOULD have paid to see before they went over the hill or commercialized. u2 and bowie, that's it.

                          the organizers of the HTS should all be fired.

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                            T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                            Oh that wasn't you in accordian queers quarterly? All that other crap you mentioned is small potatoes next to aqq

                            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                              Whoa gip, green day is as big as the black eyed peas. Bigger even. I have no idea why you would shit on green day doing the halftime show and then suggest joni mitchell, Neil diamond, the pretenders, Elvis costello or van morrisson.

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-cysko-kid said:

                              Whoa gip, green day is as big as the black eyed peas. Bigger even. I have no idea why you would shit on green day doing the halftime show and then suggest joni mitchell, Neil diamond, the pretenders, Elvis costello or van morrisson.

                              Maybe in your mind....and maybe in certain charts, Green Day is as big as the Black eyed peas.

                              But that is like saying the Black Keys are as big as the Black Eyed Peas.

                              The Black Keys may in fact be one of the best acts going...and I would be prejudiced toward them, they being from Akron....but they are not a scintillating live act.

                              But in the Pop culture World Green Day is viewed as either an emo band, or heavy metal, or whatever.

                              They may as well bring out Eno to do "Another Green World" as have Green Day, as high as their profile is.

                              People will think that the Packers are the halftime show if you have Green Day.

                              And none of this is meant to disparage Green Day musically.

                              But, I guarantee you, if it comes to high profile, every one of the acts on the list I gave will have a much higher profile than Green Day.

                              Add Alice Cooper to the list.

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                                BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                                Whats with MIA giving the finger ? What a bitch !

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                                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                                  Whoa gip, green day is as big as the black eyed peas. Bigger even. I have no idea why you would shit on green day doing the halftime show and then suggest joni mitchell, Neil diamond, the pretenders, Elvis costello or van morrisson.

                                  Maybe in your mind....and maybe in certain charts, Green Day is as big as the Black eyed peas.

                                  But that is like saying the Black Keys are as big as the Black Eyed Peas.

                                  The Black Keys may in fact be one of the best acts going...and I would be prejudiced toward them, they being from Akron....but they are not a scintillating live act.

                                  But in the Pop culture World Green Day is viewed as either an emo band, or heavy metal, or whatever.

                                  They may as well bring out Eno to do "Another Green World" as have Green Day, as high as their profile is.

                                  People will think that the Packers are the halftime show if you have Green Day.

                                  And none of this is meant to disparage Green Day musically.

                                  But, I guarantee you, if it comes to high profile, every one of the acts on the list I gave will have a much higher profile than Green Day.

                                  Add Alice Cooper to the list.

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                                  VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Maybe in your mind....and maybe in certain charts, Green Day is as big as the Black eyed peas.

                                  But that is like saying the Black Keys are as big as the Black Eyed Peas.

                                  The Black Keys may in fact be one of the best acts going...and I would be prejudiced toward them, they being from Akron....but they are not a scintillating live act.

                                  But in the Pop culture World Green Day is viewed as either an emo band, or heavy metal, or whatever.

                                  They may as well bring out Eno to do "Another Green World" as have Green Day, as high as their profile is.

                                  People will think that the Packers are the halftime show if you have Green Day.

                                  And none of this is meant to disparage Green Day musically.

                                  But, I guarantee you, if it comes to high profile, every one of the acts on the list I gave will have a much higher profile than Green Day.

                                  Add Alice Cooper to the list.

                                  The Black Keys are popular, but they're not on the same level as Green Day, not even close. They might be among the most popular bands in the game now, but their popularity and longevity come nowhere near Green Day's. I wasn't trying to attack older music by any means, but too many of these guys are past their primes. Daltrey's singing was awful when The Who had the half time show; his voice is shot. I don't want to see that. I think a third of your list would be artists who were once great singers but their voices are toast.

                                  Plus, you're going to put REM on that list but exclude Green Day? Since you love stats so much, here you go.

                                  Made the Billboard 200 Albums of the Year Chart in: 8 times

                                  Made the Billboard Hot 100 Songs of the Year Chart in: 2 times

                                  Made the Top Artists of the Year Chart in: 1 time

                                  Made the Billboard 200 Albums of the Year Chart in: 10 times

                                  Made the Billboard Hot 100 Songs of the Year Chart in: 1 time

                                  Guess which band is which.

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                                    Green Day burnt some bridges when they took that little detour into the political realm. It was a few years ago but it still lingers in terms of marketability. Now I'm not huge into music but I can't think of an extremely popular song of their's off the top of my head. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they start wearing large amounts of eyeliner? That probably doesn't help their case much either if true.

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                                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                                      Whoa gip, green day is as big as the black eyed peas. Bigger even. I have no idea why you would shit on green day doing the halftime show and then suggest joni mitchell, Neil diamond, the pretenders, Elvis costello or van morrisson.

                                      Maybe in your mind....and maybe in certain charts, Green Day is as big as the Black eyed peas.

                                      But that is like saying the Black Keys are as big as the Black Eyed Peas.

                                      The Black Keys may in fact be one of the best acts going...and I would be prejudiced toward them, they being from Akron....but they are not a scintillating live act.

                                      But in the Pop culture World Green Day is viewed as either an emo band, or heavy metal, or whatever.

                                      They may as well bring out Eno to do "Another Green World" as have Green Day, as high as their profile is.

                                      People will think that the Packers are the halftime show if you have Green Day.

                                      And none of this is meant to disparage Green Day musically.

                                      But, I guarantee you, if it comes to high profile, every one of the acts on the list I gave will have a much higher profile than Green Day.

                                      Add Alice Cooper to the list.

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Maybe in your mind....and maybe in certain charts, Green Day is as big as the Black eyed peas.

                                      But that is like saying the Black Keys are as big as the Black Eyed Peas.

                                      The Black Keys may in fact be one of the best acts going...and I would be prejudiced toward them, they being from Akron....but they are not a scintillating live act.

                                      But in the Pop culture World Green Day is viewed as either an emo band, or heavy metal, or whatever.

                                      They may as well bring out Eno to do "Another Green World" as have Green Day, as high as their profile is.

                                      People will think that the Packers are the halftime show if you have Green Day.

                                      And none of this is meant to disparage Green Day musically.

                                      But, I guarantee you, if it comes to high profile, every one of the acts on the list I gave will have a much higher profile than Green Day.

                                      Add Alice Cooper to the list.

                                      Joni Mitchell? Lmao. Alice cooper plays the rib-burn off.

                                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Maybe in your mind....and maybe in certain charts, Green Day is as big as the Black eyed peas.

                                        But that is like saying the Black Keys are as big as the Black Eyed Peas.

                                        The Black Keys may in fact be one of the best acts going...and I would be prejudiced toward them, they being from Akron....but they are not a scintillating live act.

                                        But in the Pop culture World Green Day is viewed as either an emo band, or heavy metal, or whatever.

                                        They may as well bring out Eno to do "Another Green World" as have Green Day, as high as their profile is.

                                        People will think that the Packers are the halftime show if you have Green Day.

                                        And none of this is meant to disparage Green Day musically.

                                        But, I guarantee you, if it comes to high profile, every one of the acts on the list I gave will have a much higher profile than Green Day.

                                        Add Alice Cooper to the list.

                                        The Black Keys are popular, but they're not on the same level as Green Day, not even close. They might be among the most popular bands in the game now, but their popularity and longevity come nowhere near Green Day's. I wasn't trying to attack older music by any means, but too many of these guys are past their primes. Daltrey's singing was awful when The Who had the half time show; his voice is shot. I don't want to see that. I think a third of your list would be artists who were once great singers but their voices are toast.

                                        Plus, you're going to put REM on that list but exclude Green Day? Since you love stats so much, here you go.

                                        Made the Billboard 200 Albums of the Year Chart in: 8 times

                                        Made the Billboard Hot 100 Songs of the Year Chart in: 2 times

                                        Made the Top Artists of the Year Chart in: 1 time

                                        Made the Billboard 200 Albums of the Year Chart in: 10 times

                                        Made the Billboard Hot 100 Songs of the Year Chart in: 1 time

                                        Guess which band is which.

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                                        @vaportrail said:

                                        The Black Keys are popular, but they're not on the same level as Green Day, not even close. They might be among the most popular bands in the game now, but their popularity and longevity come nowhere near Green Day's. I wasn't trying to attack older music by any means, but too many of these guys are past their primes. Daltrey's singing was awful when The Who had the half time show; his voice is shot. I don't want to see that. I think a third of your list would be artists who were once great singers but their voices are toast.

                                        Plus, you're going to put REM on that list but exclude Green Day? Since you love stats so much, here you go.

                                        Made the Billboard 200 Albums of the Year Chart in: 8 times

                                        Made the Billboard Hot 100 Songs of the Year Chart in: 2 times

                                        Made the Top Artists of the Year Chart in: 1 time

                                        Made the Billboard 200 Albums of the Year Chart in: 10 times

                                        Made the Billboard Hot 100 Songs of the Year Chart in: 1 time

                                        Guess which band is which.

                                        It doesn't matter, Green Day does not have cache with the pop music crowd....and the Super Bowl is all about the Top Pop.

                                        Albums don't mean shit.

                                        If that were the case then Jethro Tull and Procul Harum would the shit.

                                        They aren't when it comes to POPULAR Music.

                                        You are far more likely to see the following long before you see Green Day:

                                        Katy Perry, Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche, Eminem, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Miley Cyrus, Mariah Carey, Beyonce/Jay-Z, Kelly Clarkson, J Lo, Adele, Alicia Keys, Taylor Swift....hell, even Snoop Dog long before you see Green Day.

                                        Sorry, that is just the way it is. Geen Day may be better musically than everyone of them...If I gave them enough of a listen I might like them better than every one of them...but that is not going to give them the pop music stones to get on the Super Bowl halftime show....as the lead act.

                                        They may get a support role, like Ce Lo Green and those others did to Madonna...or, maybe in 25 years after they have been inducted into the RRHOF and have become a nostalgia act they may get the SB gig. But not now.

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                                          Foo fighters, weezer, green day, metallica, pearl jam, red hot chili peppers would all be better than that list, and people under 50 might give a shit. Hell as far as "superstars" go no one on your list matches the star quality of people like snoop dogg or eminem. I'm not saying they're good just that more people would care to see them than would probably care to see Neil diamond these days. And I love me some cracklin' rose.

                                          Why not led zepplin or Boston? Or journey? Or ac/dc, or ozzy? If were going to harken back to the good old days, they are 1000 times more appealing than Elvis costello, joni mitchell or Alice cooper.

                                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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